Guild Wars 2

Hey there before I went to the bug forum I wanted to ask around.
So I took to taking Sic Em to Tpvp and WvW on request of some of my guildies in the hopes of nailing thieves before they instadown one of our people and blind stomp it before we can save them.

Sounds good right? However theres something ive noticed. The reveal of sic em which is slotted to last for four seconds in hte tooltip.

NEVER lasts more than one or two seconds AT MOST. Thieves usualy just ignore it. Do thieves have a method of actualy dropping our reveal?

If so then what was the point of the ability?

Is this a bug? Or does reveal suffer from diminishing returns?

Ummm what?

My GF runs Sic em on her Ranger and it always lasts 4 seconds. 4 seconds isn’t as long as you think it might be.

Using “Blinds” won’t do kitten cause Reveal doesn’t affect blinds. You can use Sic Em on a theif and they can still Blind Power stomp you. Reveal on only on stealth.

For someone to be downed THAT QUICK you have to be running a GC (Glass Cannon) build at which case be prepared to be downed real fast. I run a GC Theif with 11.4k HP and a backstab will do ~9.6k from another GC theif. My GF runs a GC Ranger which she loses approx the same HP but she has an extra 4k HP on top of mine.

You want to know the awesomeness in this ability?

See a theif use black powder? The AoE Smoke like circle?
Use Sic Em and watch them Heatseeker and be confused why they didn’t stealth (Often using HS again and wasting all Init) just be sure to down them quick after.

Its real fun when me and my GF roams around see’s a theif. She uses Sic Em just before they heartseeker then I jump in with my 1500 range Steal + BV and down then almost instantly. The confusion some of them have why they heartseeker BACK is real funny.

Another one is against Mesmers. Just before you stun them use Sic Em. So when they use that utility that breaks stun, creates a clone and stealths them. It will just create a clone allowing you to still actually see the mesmer. So if you had him targeted the target will still be there with the added benefit of that if you have a k9 breed it will knockdown on first attack. The extra move speed will allow them to catch them.

Hmm. What im trying to say is that im watching the actual debuff on my target. I’ve tested this in pvp where i use Sic-Em at long range on a theif whos fighting another player and watch there debuff. I watch it go from four seconds to three to dissapearing as the thief enters stealth anyway. This isnt once in a blue moon this happens. But infact quite often.

Im familiar with the uses of the skill as i’ve been using it since before the reveal change to it. What I am trying to figure out is why the reveal seems to be unreliable for me.

Thats why I posted my concerns in the form of questions. To see if others are noticing the same issues or know more information about it.

When I started typing the rest of this response I had to take a minute to retype this.

Your reply came off as well…..exceedingly rude. Not sure if you meant it that way. But thought id tell ya that now. I had to reread what you said becuase the first time the attitude of the post made me want to ignore it out of hand.

I appreciate what your saying but it in no way addresses the issues im having. I wouldn’t make this post if i wasn’t SURE this was happening.

Shadelang.3012:

Hmm. What im trying to say is that im watching the actual debuff on my target. I’ve tested this in pvp where i use Sic-Em at long range on a theif whos fighting another player and watch there debuff. I watch it go from four seconds to three to dissapearing as the thief enters stealth anyway. This isnt once in a blue moon this happens. But infact quite often.

Im familiar with the uses of the skill as i’ve been using it since before the reveal change to it. What I am trying to figure out is why the reveal seems to be unreliable for me.

Thats why I posted my concerns in the form of questions. To see if others are noticing the same issues or know more information about it.

When I started typing the rest of this response I had to take a minute to retype this.

Your reply came off as well…..exceedingly rude. Not sure if you meant it that way. But thought id tell ya that now. I had to reread what you said becuase the first time the attitude of the post made me want to ignore it out of hand.

I appreciate what your saying but it in no way addresses the issues im having. I wouldn’t make this post if i wasn’t SURE this was happening.

I’m sorry if I came across as rude the sheer stupidity of some people that are on the forms (More so in the ranger section for some reason) is beginning to annoy me. Maybe I should re-frame from posting. Who knows.

Then no. I’ve not noticed theifs stealthing earlier then they should. I’ll ask my GF today to keep an eye on it and let you know if she finds anything odd.

I appreciate it. Sorry if I phrased my reply poorly but thought id be straight up here.
Thank you for replying to my post. Having people aware that there might be an issue could help shed some light on whether its real or if im having some kind of latency issue I cant properly account for on my own.

Haven’t seen this issue but i haven’t used sic’em a lot, especially in pvp/wvw so, can’t really say.
But it seemed to work ok when i used it.

I haven’t seen this issue either. If anything, the biggest issue with Sic-Em reveal is that it requires a target. If you don’t autotarget (which a lot of roamers turn off), then it’s sometimes the most frustrating thing in the world just trying to click the thief let alone pop off the skill in time before it stealths away again. I’m sure everyone’s had that occasional issue when trying to use it. Then there’s the fact that you can’t make your pet rampage unless there is actually a target.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

I haven’t seen this issue either. If anything, the biggest issue with Sic-Em reveal is that it requires a target. If you don’t autotarget (which a lot of roamers turn off), then it’s sometimes the most frustrating thing in the world just trying to click the thief let alone pop off the skill in time before it stealths away again. I’m sure everyone’s had that occasional issue when trying to use it. Then there’s the fact that you can’t make your pet rampage unless there is actually a target.

Keybind targeting, preferably to a mousebutton, of course if there are multiple enemies you might still need to actually click if he’s hiding behind his buddies but in most cases it will help to instantly regain your target.

As for the OP I haven’t used sic em much but when I have it’s worked like it should, haven’t noticed any reduced duration on reveal.