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Posted by: Firelysm.4967

Firelysm.4967

By watching Scrapper yesterday, my first thought was…
*"They just made SneakyGyroF5 what “Sic em” should be for years, an AoE 900 range reveal!"

Sic em:

  • 2000 range
  • self reveal
  • can miss it if person goes in stealth before you trigger it or lose target
  • 40 sec CD (32 if traited)
  • reveals ONE (1) person for 6 Sec
  • 40% pet speed and dmg, (BM pets move 30% faster in default, so no change here)

Sneak Gyro: (two components)
- ELITE SKILL:

  • Applies AoE stealth to you and other allies nearby.(we dont know how many probably 5)
  • 30sec CD on reuse
    *30sec duration of 3sec intervals of 4 sec stealth (which gives you 34 sec of total stealth)

-ELITE GYRO F5:

  • Remove stealth from up to 5 enemies in a 900 range, no target required.
    Stealthed people are revealed for 6s.
  • 20 sec CD (untraited)

Now comparing this to sic em. Sneak Elite Gyro effect on F5 is alone already better then sic em for soooo much more! And delivers a lot more to the game play.

Some funny NOTES:

  • Rangers lost ground targeting trait because of guardians getting traps and in order to remove rent they decided to break one of most amazing mechanics of ranger that could throw traps if desired, thx to Dragon Hunger, we got this removed.
  • Spirits, no longer movable, just to make Scrapper Gyros more awesome, again nerf to ranger breaking the mechanics to make other elite specs look better.

What does other specializations do to make Druid better?
(so far Scrapper looks the most rushed, and least mechanics added to playstyle)

Wish I could get back to GW1.. PvP-GvG. It feels like we are outcasted, not desired or rewarded..

(edited by Firelysm.4967)

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Posted by: Shirk.6421

Shirk.6421

The f5 is exactly what I wished for so long on rangers…. and we can’t even F2 our pet witout canceling Sick ’em. GG ANet.

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

Y i know op.. And its not the only skill, many skills are similar with other classes skills. Only that Ranger always has the short stick for some reason..

I stopped playing GW2 and started another game and i feel better..It may work on you too

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

The Scrapbot is neat and has cool niche, but I can’t see many Engineers bringing it to PvP and replacing their free Rampage+Moa.

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Posted by: Babylon.8972

Babylon.8972

By watching Scrapper yesterday, my first thought was…
*"They just made SneakyGyroF5 what “Sic em” should be for years, an AoE 900 range reveal!"

Sic em:

  • 2000 range
  • self reveal
  • can miss it if person goes in stealth before you trigger it or lose target
  • 40 sec CD (32 if traited)
  • reveals ONE (1) person for 6 Sec
  • 40% pet speed and dmg, (BM pets move 30% faster in default, so no change here)

Sneak Gyro: (two components)
- ELITE SKILL:

  • Applies AoE stealth to you and other allies nearby.(we dont know how many probably 5)
  • 30sec CD on reuse
    *30sec duration of 3sec intervals of 4 sec stealth (which gives you 34 sec of total stealth)

-ELITE GYRO F5:

  • Remove stealth from up to 5 enemies in a 900 range, no target required.
    Stealthed people are revealed for 6s.
  • 20 sec CD (untraited)

Now comparing this to sic em. Sneak Elite Gyro effect on F5 is alone already better then sic em for soooo much more! And delivers a lot more to the game play.

Some funny NOTES:

  • Rangers lost ground targeting trait because of guardians getting traps and in order to remove rent they decided to break one of most amazing mechanics of ranger that could throw traps if desired, thx to Dragon Hunger, we got this removed.
  • Spirits, no longer movable, just to make Scrapper Gyros more awesome, again nerf to ranger breaking the mechanics to make other elite specs look better.

What does other specializations do to make Druid better?
(so far Scrapper looks the most rushed, and least mechanics added to playstyle)

Yeah and gyros are better version of mesmer’s illusionary defender and illusionary warden + feedback utility skill. Thats what we have wanted for years aswell.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

1) Sneak Gyro is an Elite skill
2) Scrapper is an Elite spec
3) Sic ‘em is a 2000 range single target instant 6s reveal without a single tell. Sneak Gyro is a 900 range point blank AoE 6s reveal with the gyro itself being a huge tell.
4) Traps can’t be thrown because all skills/weapons can only have 1 trait in their new system. They didn’t want the trait to change the behaviour of the skill. So they choose the non-throwable trap and the immobile spirit. Nothing to do with Dragonhunter or Scrapper.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

How do you double post with 2 hours in between?

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

Yeah and gyros are better version of mesmer’s illusionary defender and illusionary warden + feedback utility skill. Thats what we have wanted for years aswell.

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Posted by: Photinous.4628

Photinous.4628

Yeah and gyros are better version of mesmer’s illusionary defender and illusionary warden + feedback utility skill. Thats what we have wanted for years aswell.

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Posted by: kiwituatara.6053

kiwituatara.6053

I disagree. You are comparing an elite skill to a utility skill. I’ll admit that Sic’Em is pretty limited due to its niche functionality, but elite skill are supposed to be semi-game changer abilities.

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Posted by: RevanCorana.8942

RevanCorana.8942

Sickem could at the very least grant superspeed to your pet so that the dmg increase actually matters.

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

Sickem could at the very least grant superspeed to your pet so that the dmg increase actually matters.

it grants them 40% movement speed…. do you mean grant them quickness so they attack faster?

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Posted by: Shadow Phage.9084

Shadow Phage.9084

1) Sneak Gyro is an Elite skill
2) Scrapper is an Elite spec
3) Sic ‘em is a 2000 range single target instant 6s reveal without a single tell. Sneak Gyro is a 900 range point blank AoE 6s reveal with the gyro itself being a huge tell.
4) Traps can’t be thrown because all skills/weapons can only have 1 trait in their new system. They didn’t want the trait to change the behaviour of the skill. So they choose the non-throwable trap and the immobile spirit. Nothing to do with Dragonhunter or Scrapper.

Just a small correction:
Reveal is the F5 toolbelt skill, thus it works independently of whether the drone is deployed or not.


Sickem could at the very least grant superspeed to your pet so that the dmg increase actually matters.

it grants them 40% movement speed…. do you mean grant them quickness so they attack faster?

Would either really matter? The pet still has to stop to cast all of its attacks. Not to mention any other effect/order you apply to your pet will simply clear “Sic ’Em!” anyways.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

The funny thing is that if ranger got fixed and had pet issues addressed with solutions already on the table …
… We would have been actually completely fine, viable, competitive and on par with others.

I went through some numbers and objective-achievements the other day and realized that Rangers might not have been so bad if they worked. But since everything on ranger is puppied………

“Observe, learn and counter.”

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

1) Sneak Gyro is an Elite skill
2) Scrapper is an Elite spec
3) Sic ‘em is a 2000 range single target instant 6s reveal without a single tell. Sneak Gyro is a 900 range point blank AoE 6s reveal with the gyro itself being a huge tell.
4) Traps can’t be thrown because all skills/weapons can only have 1 trait in their new system. They didn’t want the trait to change the behaviour of the skill. So they choose the non-throwable trap and the immobile spirit. Nothing to do with Dragonhunter or Scrapper.

Just a small correction:
Reveal is the F5 toolbelt skill, thus it works independently of whether the drone is deployed or not.


Sickem could at the very least grant superspeed to your pet so that the dmg increase actually matters.

it grants them 40% movement speed…. do you mean grant them quickness so they attack faster?

Would either really matter? The pet still has to stop to cast all of its attacks. Not to mention any other effect/order you apply to your pet will simply clear “Sic ’Em!” anyways.

You’ve never used quickness on a bird have you?

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