Signet of the Wild

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

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Simple question :
How come signet of the wild basic healing rate did not get buffed with all the signet buffs happening left and right ?

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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The same reason the Mesmer’s Signets of Inspiration, Midnight, and Illusions did not … they are not +stat signets (except Signet of Midnight, lol).

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

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Yes but , compared to warriors 200+ hp per second , the ranger has an 85 per second .

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

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It wasn’t an underutilised passive. The stat increases were pretty weak, the passive healing from this (especially in a bunker build) was very viable.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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Ah, yes, Warrior’s Healing Signet versus Ranger’s Signet of the Wild.

Healing Signet

  • 200 per second.
  • +0.033 per 1 healing power

Signet of the Wild

  • Ranger Healing 62 per second
  • Ranger +0.06 per 1 healing power
  • Pet Healing 125 per second
  • Pet +0.25 per 1 healing power

So with 0 healing power, the warrior is getting 200 – 62 = 138 more health per second than the Ranger and 200 – (62+125) = 13 more health per second than both the Ranger and their pet combined.

Now, Signet of the Wild does scale better with healing power, but to make up the 138 health per second difference, 138 / 0.06 = 2,300 healing power is how much would need … which is rather ridiculous.

I do not believe that the fact that it also heals the pet, a decent percentage of Ranger damage, should be cause for it to heal the Ranger for less. Especially not 2,300 worth of healing power less.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Also keep in mind that Healing Signet is the warriors HEAL where as Sig of the Wild is a UTILITY, if our utility healed us for more than the warriors Heal i’d be concerned…

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

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Yes i know that , i have a warrior as well . But it seems rather strange as it is only worth it for bunker builds , or those signet 30 marksman builds . Do not get me wrong , i do not mind either way , i just wondered if it was left out on purpose

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Posted by: Daecollo.9578

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Both of these need buffed or Warrior one needs to be moved to Utility. Warrior is one of the worst PvP classes in the game for a reason.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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Also keep in mind that Healing Signet is the warriors HEAL where as Sig of the Wild is a UTILITY, if our utility healed us for more than the warriors Heal i’d be concerned…

I think that would be a good argument if we were comparing the actives, but we’re not. We’re comparing signet passives.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

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Also keep in mind that Healing Signet is the warriors HEAL where as Sig of the Wild is a UTILITY, if our utility healed us for more than the warriors Heal i’d be concerned…

I think that would be a good argument if we were comparing the actives, but we’re not. We’re comparing signet passives.

The heal Signets, with the exception of Guardian, are designed to keep you up without the active and simply using the active for a burst heal, if warriors were getting less healing than sig of the wild or even on Par there’s something HORRIBLY wrong with how Anet is balancing them.

EX: look at Signet of Malice and Signet of Restoration

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Posted by: Joey.3928

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Even at 100 hp/sec, I think that isn’t that bad. 1k health every 10 seconds is pretty good to have going on in the background. I think mine heals me for around 118 and my pet gets 200-300. It is more useful for the pet.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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For it to heal you for 118/sec you have to have 56 / 0.06 = 933.333 healing power.
(118 – 62 = 56 … 0.06 hp/sec per 1 healing power)

If the warrior has 933.333… healing power, they are receiving 200 + (0.033 * 933) = 230.89.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

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The heal per second on the actives for each of the Warrior’s heals varies very little, especially when you compare it to the different heal per second amoutns of other classes different heals.

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