Guild Wars 2

Hello fellow Rangers, my first post so bear with me as my writing aint that good.
Going to write a list of our Signets and the changes i’d do to them. Keep in mind it’s changes with Signet of Beastmastery in mind.

Signet of the Hunt – Add another 10% to the current speed buff via Wilderness Trait Line. The activate, i’d change it to what the Thiefs have on one of there Signets. Instead of 1 attack make it 5 attacks with 15% damage.

Signet of the Wild – Only thing i’d like to see is the damage buff affect Rangers. But when we trait Signet of Beastmastery, we only get the stability buff and no damage boost. I dont really know the number of the damage buff to dertermine if it needs buff or not.

Signet of the Stone – Only thing i’d do to this Signet is add a secondary affect. When activated we also become immune to root, dazed and snare. Something like that.

Signet of the Renewal – My least likeable Signet. Either add a secondary effect or take out the transferr and add a heal plus regen like a minor Healing Spring.

These are the changes that comes to mind. Feel free to post your own changes. Am sure there are others that are more creatived than myself. But please nothing overpowered. Maybe A-Net can get some ideas from this thread.

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And who in their right mind would trait in our healing power tree?

Jay.3284:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And who in their right mind would trait in our healing power tree?

sigh….. there are things called amulets……

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

A for effort, but allow me to correct you: a weapon’s viability has nothing to do with the individual player’s skill.

Keep it up .

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

A for effort, but allow me to correct you: a weapon’s viability has nothing to do with the individual player’s skill.

Keep it up .

Go and check what you wrote, you didn’t quite write that did you.

Keep it up.

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

A for effort, but allow me to correct you: a weapon’s viability has nothing to do with the individual player’s skill.

Keep it up .

Go and check what you wrote, you didn’t quite write that did you.

Keep it up.

Are you copying me now? Aren’t you a cheeky one.

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

A for effort, but allow me to correct you: a weapon’s viability has nothing to do with the individual player’s skill.

Keep it up .

Go and check what you wrote, you didn’t quite write that did you.

Keep it up.

Are you copying me now? Aren’t you a cheeky one.

Thanks mate.

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

A for effort, but allow me to correct you: a weapon’s viability has nothing to do with the individual player’s skill.

Keep it up .

Go and check what you wrote, you didn’t quite write that did you.

Keep it up.

Are you copying me now? Aren’t you a cheeky one.

Thanks mate.

That wasn’t a compliment. But boy, we sure are getting off-topic.

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

A for effort, but allow me to correct you: a weapon’s viability has nothing to do with the individual player’s skill.

Keep it up .

Go and check what you wrote, you didn’t quite write that did you.

Keep it up.

Are you copying me now? Aren’t you a cheeky one.

Thanks mate.

That wasn’t a compliment. But boy, we sure are getting off-topic.

Don’t waste your time. He’s a troll

Jay.3284:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

A for effort, but allow me to correct you: a weapon’s viability has nothing to do with the individual player’s skill.

Keep it up .

Go and check what you wrote, you didn’t quite write that did you.

Keep it up.

Are you copying me now? Aren’t you a cheeky one.

Thanks mate.

That wasn’t a compliment. But boy, we sure are getting off-topic.

Don’t waste your time. He’s a troll

lol.

Jay.3284:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

A for effort, but allow me to correct you: a weapon’s viability has nothing to do with the individual player’s skill.

Keep it up .

Go and check what you wrote, you didn’t quite write that did you.

Keep it up.

Are you copying me now? Aren’t you a cheeky one.

Thanks mate.

That wasn’t a compliment. But boy, we sure are getting off-topic.

Don’t waste your time. He’s a troll

In that case I suppose he is a pretty bad one. Instead of agitating me, he managed to do naught but amuse me.

Agadar.4931:

Jay.3284:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

Agadar.4931:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

You’ve got to be kidding me. Signet of Stone and Signet of Renewal are both absolute garbage. As are all the others.

I think you’re just a bad ranger who doesn’t know how to trait properly. 5 second invuln for your and your pet is extremely good and the passive regen on renewal is insanely good if you trait into healing power.

And I know that you are a bad ranger due to your laughable opinion that our signets are good.

Not really, you are that typical player who cries about a classes shortcomings instead of actually trying to improve. "Oh look people crying on a forum about my class being poor, I’m gunna join in too because I’m not succesful with the class "
^ That is you sir.

You’re adorable.

Thanks. Remember Agadar, you gotta learn to use a weapon for it to be viable.

A for effort, but allow me to correct you: a weapon’s viability has nothing to do with the individual player’s skill.

Keep it up .

Go and check what you wrote, you didn’t quite write that did you.

Keep it up.

Are you copying me now? Aren’t you a cheeky one.

Thanks mate.

That wasn’t a compliment. But boy, we sure are getting off-topic.

Don’t waste your time. He’s a troll

In that case I suppose he is a pretty bad one. Instead of agitating me, he managed to do naught but amuse me.

I assure you that Agadar is the one trolling here not I.

If you could pop signet of the hunt for a brief stealth I might use it.

That aside, I wouldn’t use it unless it applied more than a 33% movement boost. As it stands now it doesn’t effect you while you are in combat, I’ll stick to shooting rabbits, tropical birds and other small game for constant Swiftness instead.

In order for signet of stone to be decent you HAVE to put 30 points into Marksmanship.. We are pigeon holed into that to make our signets worth anything. Signet of stone without 30 points in power is not that good IMO.

BlueprintLFE.2358:

In order for signet of stone to be decent you HAVE to put 30 points into Marksmanship.. We are pigeon holed into that to make our signets worth anything. Signet of stone without 30 points in power is not that good IMO.

If you don’t plan on traiting into them don’t use them, simple as that.

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

Signet of Stone @80 translates to + 35 toughness to Ranger and the pet. Active effect is good, i’ll give you that, but passive one is a joke : + 35 Toughness ??
No thanks !!

Signet of Renewal is balanced like in other classes so i also think it’s quite good.

Cooldowns could be reworked, but thing is we Rangers don’t need some pitiful bandage-wannabe solutions. We need some Ranger profession rework as a whole, since focus and orientation (not to mention damage output lol) is what we lack since release.

Haya

NaturalPortman.9562:

BlueprintLFE.2358:

In order for signet of stone to be decent you HAVE to put 30 points into Marksmanship.. We are pigeon holed into that to make our signets worth anything. Signet of stone without 30 points in power is not that good IMO.

If you don’t plan on traiting into them don’t use them, simple as that.

Signets have a passive that are supposed to be useful even when NOT traited. Whole point of the passive effect.

Signet of stone has a good active only if you have 30 in marksmanship also. Signet of renewal I think should remove a condition every 5 secs.

I think signets overall should have a lower cd and better actives if your not gonna improve the pet. Whats the use of my pet hitting for more damage but it can’t hit moving targets and such.

Haya jii san.1978:

NaturalPortman.9562:

signet of the stone doesnt need any changes, it’s already good. and signet of renewal is also extremely good doesnt need any changes. the only changes all of these really need is the cooldown, nothing else.

Signet of Stone @80 translates to + 35 toughness to Ranger and the pet. Active effect is good, i’ll give you that, but passive one is a joke : + 35 Toughness ??
No thanks !!

Signet of Renewal is balanced like in other classes so i also think it’s quite good.

Cooldowns could be reworked, but thing is we Rangers don’t need some pitiful bandage-wannabe solutions. We need some Ranger profession rework as a whole, since focus and orientation (not to mention damage output lol) is what we lack since release.

Haya

I’ll agree with you on the passive effect being sort of garbage, but I think 90 (or is it 92) ((-assuming you traited into them)) second cool down on a 5 second invuln is some what fair. Ranger already has evades up the kitten and vigor up the kitten

Signet suggestions? Awesome! I’m using Signets too, so let’s see…

Signet of Renewal
Passive: Cures a condition every ten seconds.
Active: Your pet pulls all conditions from nearby allies to itself.
Breaks stun
> Passive seems decent, but needs a better ‘Active’ skill. Now the Ranger will just kitten his pet when using it. Maybe offset the conditions by also providing boons (like ‘Save Yourselves’)?

Signet of the Hunt
Passive: Grants 10% increased movement speed to you and your pet.
Active: Your pet’s next attack deals more damage.
> Passive effect could do with some improvement. I’d like it to be more in line with the Thief’s 25% increased movement speed Signet. Rangers should be more mobile
> Very poor ‘Active’ ability that only applies a +50% damage to a single (auto)attack

Signet of Stone
Passive: Improves toughness for you and your pet.
Active: Your pet takes no damage from attacks (6 seconds).
> 35 Toughness to the player at level 80 is a very poor passive effect. Dolyak (Warrior) and Judgment (Guardian) have much better passives
> Active effect when traited is awesome, not so great when not traited

Signet of the Wild
Passive: Grants health regeneration to you and your pet.
Active: Your pet grows larger, dealing more damage and gaining stability.
> Seems fine to me. The regeneration is nice and the 25% damage boost and stability for 10 seconds as well

So overall I personally feel that Signet of the Hunt is in need of some buff. Same would apply to the passive ability on Signet of Stone, which is pretty poor compared to similar ‘damage reduction’ signets of other classes. Signet of Renewal should have a better ‘Active’ skill to offset the load of conditions being put on your pet. Maybe something similar as ‘Save Yourselves’ that the Guardian has? Then conditions would be pulled, but boons would be gained. This would also work better with the Beastmaster trait (active effects also apply to you), because no way in hell would I want to activate Renewal when I have the Beastmaster trait.