Guild Wars 2

…that ranger longbow needs a major buff. There’s no way a shortbow should be doing so much more damage even without taking advantage of the bleed on Crossfire. Seems like they spent 10 minutes on ranger changes this patch (and in that time they still should have been able to think of at least something useful to give us) while giving other classes that arguably didn’t need any buffs in the first place… buffs!

I don’t understand the logic and I’m not happy about this patch. Some kind of acknowledgement about the problems rangers have would be nice from Anet but I don’t expect anything anymore…

you mean you don’t think it’s fair that to put out the DPS other classes can in 1-2 hits we need 10?

Yeah I doubt they’ll say anything at this point I just have no clue, I still love my Ranger as he’s my main but, I’m seriously considering making a different profession. I’m just kitten over guard that coupled with sick em gave hell to enemy invaders on towers. Just kitten man kitten!

…wut?
Don’t get me wrong I still the think shortbow does weak dmg compared to other classes.
@vespers I still have no idea wtf you said though lol

I agree that the LB needs help. But, OP, your statements aren’t based in fact on your LB vs SB comparison. Here’s some math I got out of a reliable DPS calculator (I’ve since double checked the math with my own spreadsheet):

Exotic berserker’s gear (30/20/15/0/5) comparison:
Just auto attacks :
LB at max range = 1463 dps
LB at max range w/ 10% vulnerability = 1609
SB without bleeds = 1489
SB with bleeds = 1777
The difference between “LB max + vuln” and “SB with bleeds” is 10.4%. This is without Barrage and this doesn’t bother to consider the 10% vuln for your pet and team.

So assuming that you can stay in the max range interval (not hard for times when you should be using the LB) and keep up Hunter’s Shot you’re outperforming a SB without its bleeds. If the SB is able to keep max stacks of bleeds indefinitely (and they aren’t being cleansed), you are only beaten by 10%.

Add in Eagle Eye and that 10% becomes 5%. Add in Barrage to the rotation and Berserker LB beats Berserker SB AND you’re also applying 10% vulnerability for pets and teammates.

The only time that SB objectively beats LB is when you spec for Rampager, Carrion, Rabid, Apothecary etc. but then, you can’t complain about a Power weapon being beaten by a Hybrid.

Omega.1473:

The only time that SB objectively beats LB is when you spec for Rampager, Carrion, Rabid, Apothecary etc. but then, you can’t complain about a Power weapon being beaten by a Hybrid.

Or if you build for condition damage instead of power/crit

Shizzler.3745:

Omega.1473:

The only time that SB objectively beats LB is when you spec for Rampager, Carrion, Rabid, Apothecary etc. but then, you can’t complain about a Power weapon being beaten by a Hybrid.

Or if you build for condition damage instead of power/crit

this ^ why would anyone try to draw meaningful comparisons between a condition weapon and a power weapon whilst gearing both with power stats?

In what pvp scenario can you actually stay at max range besides humping a tower wall or in a zerg fight? Because in skirmishes you will lose the range anyways.

I love my longbow even tho I am a bunker ranger and never have any range…

only reason I take it is for the knockback so I can push people off my node..

I would love to see the damage normalized for the range difference.. In what twisted world do arrows do more damage the further they go? that just does not make sense..

even in pve staying at max range is quite a job to pull off..