So Rampage as One is back to square one?

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Posted by: Nafets.1238

Nafets.1238

Original Version (game release)

Rampage with your pet, gaining stability, fury, and swiftness. You and your pet also grant might to each other when you attack.

Stability (20s): Cannot be knocked down, pushed back, pulled, launched, stunned, dazed, floated, sunk, feared or taunted.
Fury (20s): 20% Critical Chance
Swiftness (20s): 33% Movement Speed
Duration: 20s

After a couple iterations it used to pulse boons every 3 seconds and now, with yesterdays patch it’s again a one time cast?

I don’t get this balance.

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Posted by: Wondrouswall.7169

Wondrouswall.7169

I don’t get it either. Eternal Champion? Sure. That was a GM trait on a mechanic with a 15s cooldown that also gives stability when breaking stuns. On Infusing Terror? Maybe. That thing has been nerfed a couple of times that I’m not completely sure, but all right, let’s give it a pass since it’s not an elite.

On Ranger’s elite shout though? I know they said it’s to allow better counter play due to boon removal, but I call BS since it happened to only our elite. Not Dagger Storm, Rampage, Tornado, or Lich Form. They could have just done a test adjustment by lowering the stability stacks pulsed from 3 to 1 and go from there.

Synergy with Remorseless was also blown dead. I’m at the point I wish they would just do something better with the effect, even if it were completely extreme. Ditch the pulses, lose the one-time swiftness and fury, keep the blob of stability, but change the effect so you and your pet grant each other might and fury on attacks. Up the cooldown back to 90s or 120s to justify it even.

At least then, we can have that Remorseless synergy back and not be completely left out in the dust by a single Corrupt Boon. But seeing how weird they wanna be with balancing, they might place a pulsing fury on Most Dangerous Game come 3 months.

Maybe it’s an over-reaction, but this change is the most baffling. The shout might as well be renamed to, “Runt of the Litter…”

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

Maybe it’s in preparation of the next expansion. Like how they nerfed Thief Acrobatics trait line before HoT was released because they needed to sell Daredevil.

So maybe Ranger will get something like Facets next expansion. Maybe as utilities or to replace the pet with.

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

Jim Hunter.6821

I wouldn’t care so much if all of our other elites weren’t equally as kittenty. As it stands right now I’d rather just take an extra utility skill in the elite slot because several of them would end up being more useful.

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Posted by: foste.3098

foste.3098

They need to make it pulls fury like it used to for remorseless builds to work.
This feels like a haphazardly thought out change where they wanted to remove pulsing stab and decided to just reuse the code from the original version of the skill because it was less work

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Posted by: Fashion Mage.3712

Fashion Mage.3712

On Ranger’s elite shout though? I know they said it’s to allow better counter play due to boon removal, but I call BS since it happened to only our elite. Not Dagger Storm, Rampage, Tornado, or Lich Form. They could have just done a test adjustment by lowering the stability stacks pulsed from 3 to 1 and go from there.

Rampage as One isn’t a form/transformation.

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Posted by: Holland.9351

Holland.9351

As it stands right now I’d rather just take an extra utility skill in the elite slot because several of them would end up being more useful.

That sentiment has been voiced many times over the years. There is nothing elite about many elite skills and basic utility skills would simply be better in the slot most of the time.

Signet of the Wild is rarely used, but it’s probably objectively better than Strength of the Pack at this point:

  • Shorter cooldown,
  • a passive effect,
  • more movement speed,
  • +25% damage instead of fury.

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Posted by: Krispera.5087

Krispera.5087

As it stands right now I’d rather just take an extra utility skill in the elite slot because several of them would end up being more useful.

That sentiment has been voiced many times over the years. There is nothing elite about many elite skills and basic utility skills would simply be better in the slot most of the time.

Signet of the Wild is rarely used, but it’s probably objectively better than Strength of the Pack at this point:

  • Shorter cooldown,
  • a passive effect,
  • more movement speed,
  • +25% damage instead of fury.

This is what I ended up thinking last night. The constant 25% damage over Remorseless fury is better, despite not getting Vulnerability and the little damage buff from Opening Strikes.

I would have switched RaO to SotW if it was possible. They used to be at the same cooldown before, but instead to rollback the cooldown duration, they leave it the same.

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Posted by: atheria.2837

atheria.2837

Original Version (game release)

Rampage with your pet, gaining stability, fury, and swiftness. You and your pet also grant might to each other when you attack.

Stability (20s): Cannot be knocked down, pushed back, pulled, launched, stunned, dazed, floated, sunk, feared or taunted.
Fury (20s): 20% Critical Chance
Swiftness (20s): 33% Movement Speed
Duration: 20s

After a couple iterations it used to pulse boons every 3 seconds and now, with yesterdays patch it’s again a one time cast?

I don’t get this balance.

I don’t think any Ranger or Druid who isn’t using condi ‘gets’ this patch.

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Posted by: Last Warrior Lord.7248

Last Warrior Lord.7248

All I’m reading is noobs complaining about their safe space character meta build being adjusted. Learn to adapt and learn the class as a whole. The changes I find justified and all I play is ranger for 5 plus years. Y’all are aware that they adjusted stun skills right? And how stability is applied right? Also, the adjustmeants is for the next expension the leaks of the expension makes it obvious.

Less complaining more adapting.

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Posted by: Substance E.4852

Substance E.4852

And how stability is applied right?

Ya, it was to allow for easier boon removal. I.e. to make the skill weaker.

Calls other people noobs and fails basic reading comprehension and understanding of game mechanics…

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Posted by: Last Warrior Lord.7248

Last Warrior Lord.7248

And how stability is applied right?

Ya, it was to allow for easier boon removal. I.e. to make the skill weaker.

Calls other people noobs and fails basic reading comprehension and understanding of game mechanics…

Grant Block on stability….. read the notes.

My justification on calling players noobs vailad. They complain the most.
You fail too read and comprehend as well.

(edited by Last Warrior Lord.7248)

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Posted by: Wondrouswall.7169

Wondrouswall.7169

Rampage as One isn’t a form/transformation.

Neither is Dagger Storm.

Grant Block on stability….. read the notes.

My justification on calling players noobs vailad. They complain the most.
You fail too read and comprehend as well.

It’s “…grant a block of stability…”

Read the notes, again. Block of stability =/= block on stability.

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

anduriell.6280

And how stability is applied right?

Ya, it was to allow for easier boon removal. I.e. to make the skill weaker.

Calls other people noobs and fails basic reading comprehension and understanding of game mechanics…

Grant Block on stability….. read the notes.

My justification on calling players noobs vailad. They complain the most.
You fail too read and comprehend as well.

Another troll from another subforum. Could you go back to where you came from?
And on the way out do not forget that the sentence now grant a block of stability up front in order better allow for counterplay through boon removal doesn’t mean you get a free aegis with the stability.

And i’m the one which english language isn’t its main…

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Posted by: Last Warrior Lord.7248

Last Warrior Lord.7248

Skills and traits that previously granted pulsing stability now grant a block of stability up front in order better allow for counterplay through boon removal.

I think y’all are confused. They way it is if you have 10 stacks of stability and a Nerco used a boon removal that removes 3 it would remove only 3 stacks of stability you still have 7 stacks on stability which in this case of the stability change.

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

Jim Hunter.6821

And how stability is applied right?

Ya, it was to allow for easier boon removal. I.e. to make the skill weaker.

Calls other people noobs and fails basic reading comprehension and understanding of game mechanics…

Grant Block on stability….. read the notes.

My justification on calling players noobs vailad. They complain the most.
You fail too read and comprehend as well.

So much fail on so many levels lol.

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Posted by: Draeyon.4392

Draeyon.4392

Skills and traits that previously granted pulsing stability now grant a block of stability up front in order better allow for counterplay through boon removal.

I think y’all are confused. They way it is if you have 10 stacks of stability and a Nerco used a boon removal that removes 3 it would remove only 3 stacks of stability you still have 7 stacks on stability which in this case of the stability change.

When stability gets corrupted, all stacks get corrupted. This change was made so they it have to corrupted your stab once even though I think the CC in WvW can be more atrocious than The Condi meta at times

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Posted by: Krispera.5087

Krispera.5087

I think y’all are confused. They way it is if you have 10 stacks of stability and a Nerco used a boon removal that removes 3 it would remove only 3 stacks of stability you still have 7 stacks on stability which in this case of the stability change.

You’re the one calling other noobs ? Playing Ranger for 5 years and still don’t know how corrupt/removal boon work ? Maybe go play other classes, you apparently need it.

(edited by Krispera.5087)

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Posted by: Justine.6351

Justine.6351

Every decent necromancer will be drooling over that telegraphed SotP cast.

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Posted by: Trepidation Lost.3469

Trepidation Lost.3469

anyone remember the facvt it got nerfed not long ago form 45 secon cd to 60 aswell, if they reversed that with this patch it would of been fine

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Posted by: kiwituatara.6053

kiwituatara.6053

I think y’all are confused. They way it is if you have 10 stacks of stability and a Nerco used a boon removal that removes 3 it would remove only 3 stacks of stability you still have 7 stacks on stability which in this case of the stability change.

You’re the one calling other noobs ? Playing Ranger for 5 years and still don’t know how corrupt/removal boon work ? Maybe go play other classes, you apparently need it.

LOL this is too funny. 5yr ranger brag, calling people noobs, can’t read, don’t know game mechanics.

/rekt

Get off your high horse and stop insulting others. You got what you deserved.