Spirits and Shouts STILL Useless

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Posted by: nerva.7940

nerva.7940

anyone putting anything other than Protect Me in their utilities? anyone?

spirits (with extra health trait) still get two-shot, and their entire tree (Nature Magic) is arguably useless.

on a more positive note, thank you for the projectile buff, SoH, and pet attack improvements.

can we look forward to future shout and spirit improvements? these two hunter themes will never, ever see any use in tpvp.

Ikiro – 80 Ranger
Umie – 80 Guardian
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgLbWtvtzdU0Ho0zto6VnTQ

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

anyone putting anything other than Protect Me in their utilities? anyone?

Yea, I’ll be using “Sick ’Em” since I’m running a 1h sword bm build. This buff along with the fix to melee attacks from pet have swayed me to use it.

And it would be nice for spirits to get fixed, but ANet doesn’t fix everything at once. They like to fix a little, then observe to see how things work out before fixing anything else.

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Posted by: nerva.7940

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sure. but spirits have been useless since the game’s release (since the beta nerf), and i dont quite understand why they thought that buffing proc chance by 15% would solve anything =S

even IF the proc was 100% and the spirits were invulnerable, i dont think id have any in my utility slot due to the 10s internal CD. when youre getting focused, as we often do in pvp, how is RNG defense going to help you when help is badly needed? anyway, spirits are neither invulnerable nor non-RNG. im just not clear on the design intent here.

40% pet damage for 10 seconds really adds nothing because pet-reliant burst is not on-demand (therefore useless in spvp), and because traps and signets are infinitely more useful for damage, cc and survivability.

Ikiro – 80 Ranger
Umie – 80 Guardian
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgLbWtvtzdU0Ho0zto6VnTQ

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Posted by: Fjandi.2516

Fjandi.2516

i dont quite understand why they thought that buffing proc chance by 15% would solve anything =S

Why? Probably for the same reason they thought thieves needed a speed buff while stealthed.

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

Xsorus.2507

anyone putting anything other than Protect Me in their utilities? anyone?

spirits (with extra health trait) still get two-shot, and their entire tree (Nature Magic) is arguably useless.

on a more positive note, thank you for the projectile buff, SoH, and pet attack improvements.

can we look forward to future shout and spirit improvements? these two hunter themes will never, ever see any use in tpvp.

Pretty much

Spirits are still useless, and Shouts are still sad at best, only Protect Me with certain builds is worth anything.

Search and Rescue might be good, but I’d find it hard to fit it in any build you would be running…

Sick Em is still pretty bad, It was fun back in the day with Jag Pets and it 3 shottings but that’s long gone.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
Natures Ninja and Pain Inverter – Ranger PvP movies
http://www.twitch.tv/xsorovos

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Posted by: nerva.7940

nerva.7940

sic em need more… maybe fury, maybe longer length. not sure. Guard would be amazing if pet could sniff out stealthed players (been suggested before). S&R is looks good, but does it justify using up a utility slot? not so sure.

Ikiro – 80 Ranger
Umie – 80 Guardian
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgLbWtvtzdU0Ho0zto6VnTQ