State of the Ranger
This thread will most likely get closed due to CoC blabla if it gets more posts.
I’m all in for some open discussion about the class, but seeing how they have no idea what is going on in PvE and focus on other classes in PvP I have little hope that any dev will chime in. It’s been a year now…
The man who can wield the power of this sword can summon to him an army
more deadly than any that walks this earth. Put aside the Ranger.
Become who you were born to be. I give hope to men. I keep none for myself.
more deadly than any that walks this earth. Put aside the Ranger.
Become who you were born to be. I give hope to men. I keep none for myself.
As I said in the other state of the ranger thread here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/State-of-the-Ranger-After-major-patch/first#post3033480
State of the ranger?
Nonexistent in any place of the game – PvE, WvW, PvP
Strange, everyone talks about Ranger being nonexistant. I do really love my Ranger, I have the most hours logged on my ranger and also just like how they feel in combat.
I can do all parts of the game just fine, sure there were really rough parts to being a Ranger, but I feel that currently the ranger is quit good. Everyone that complains must be doing something terribly wrong with the class.
PVE Rangers are beasts, try something new instead of your old Shortbow/Greatsword/Longbow Spam builds ^^. Sword+Horn/Axe is just crazy. The amount of damage is awesome and in addition it offers so many dodges.
WvW for small roaming I like them alot, good damage, good survivability and the pets bring some good buffs to the table. (And if you want to bring up Zerg play, it does not matter what you play in a 100+ man zerg.)
Spvp good over all duel class and can do well in a group if you can use Sword/Axe well. Just murders anything really and can avoid a good amount of damage.
As for nobody playing rangers, when my Guild does guild missions we joke about our Ranger only group :P
Also with the last patch my Pets actually survived a bit in combat against bosses so far. I need to test this more but it looked good for the last 3 hours of doing champs, some world bosses and some of those bosses in the mad kings realm.
The buff to the Fern hound was really nice, I like that pet good overall damage and with its heal + regen it now brings nice utility. 2nd the Moa for Fury or the cat for might and you have quit some nice group buffs with you.
I can not understand all that whining around here.
But apparently its whining in every class frorum, but I have no clue about what. I play all the 8 classes and they all play just fine if you can adapt a little bit and know what you are doing (well maybe not the Engi, have not played that one in a while so cannot say for sure there.)
As I have stated before, the Ranger itself is fine (IMO), it is the class mechanic that makes me want to rage quit so often. I’m not going to explain for the 1000th time why. Go back and search all my posts if you care that much to know why. None of the other four classes I play I find as much fun as the Ranger, especially with the sword+wh. Nearly all of the issuses I have with the class are in the it’s core mechanic. There is whining in every forum, but to varying degrees… then again, I don’t care. I don’t enjoy playing those others as much. Sad truth is I have moved on. My ranger is my mystic forger and farmer. Everything else I can do better on one of my other toons.
For example: why isn’t the active/passive on a keybind? That should have been put on as a fix the 2nd patch after game release. It is incredibly silly that it isn’t on a keybind.
Another example: why can’t I perma stow? I can use my thief or warrior without ever using F1. Ever. And still be incredible effective. It is incredibly silly I can’t perma-stow my pet if I want to.
RNG is a bell curve. Better hope you’re on the right side.
There is the usual post-patch mild irritation in every class board… and the usual “hmm, maybe I can make something new with this…” in a few class boards, but here…?
…Here it’s outright DISPAIR.
The thing we’re “doing terribly wrong” in most cases is playing the other classes so that we have some broader perspective. Yes, I run fernhound, and yes the direct heal is cute, but it’s not 1/1000th of what needed to fix the class – namely AI that isn’t pathetic, or for them to finally put aside their pride (its really full blown hubris at this point) and give the pets AoE mitigation like that other game.
You say we’re beasts in PvE. PvE rangers aren’t “beasts” – PvE is trivial for all classes. When something presents trivial danger, damage/efficiency is king and Ranger damage blows. It was sub-par 3 months ago and its even farther behind the curve now because pets don’t respect the time and effort put into getting an ascended weapon on your main.
They are mildly fun (since they give the illusion of being a ranged class), especially if you’re doing something harmless like the Mad Realm, but if you’re out to get something done quickly or that presents the slightest challenge, they’re in pretty sorry shape – and that’s including the one competitive build in sPvP.
“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
I can do all parts of the game just fine, sure there were really rough parts to being a Ranger, but I feel that currently the ranger is quit good. Everyone that complains must be doing something terribly wrong with the class.
Most things in this game really aren’t that hard. We can do most things in the game despite most ranger builds being underpowered compared to other classes.
PVE Rangers are beasts, try something new instead of your old Shortbow/Greatsword/Longbow Spam builds ^^. Sword+Horn/Axe is just crazy. The amount of damage is awesome and in addition it offers so many dodges.
I agree with you that mainhand sword is a beast, but I don’t find this acceptable at all. Everything else is garbage DPS compared to mainhand sword. There is no build diversity here whatsoever. I don’t like to use sword. Why do I have to take such a significant DPS hit for it?
WvW for small roaming…
Spvp good over all duel class…
I agree here that rangers are still pretty good in these situations. However, I find this is the case despite the fact that our pet mechanics are very wonky. Specifically, I find the pet F2 skill very hard to depend on in active situations. If the pet is in the middle of trying to do its own thing, the F2 skill will either misfire or take several seconds to actually activate. I still do fine on my ranger in these situations, but it’s frustrating that our core class mechanic is so unreliable. Other classes don’t have to deal with this kind of stuff.
As for nobody playing rangers, when my Guild does guild missions we joke about our Ranger only group :P
Plenty of people play ranger. That doesn’t mean that the class doesn’t need significant improvement. Most players don’t play on the level where you would notice a significant problem. Even players who do play on a level that you would notice a problem can get by, because most things in the game are easy/flexible enough that you can get away with it. That doesn’t mean it’s okay to leave rangers underpowered.
state of the ranger: reroll to warrior
WSR→Piken→Deso→Piken→FSP→Deso
Just the WvW
R3200+
Just the WvW
R3200+
It doesn’t have a state.
and they wouldn’t have time to discuss it with y’all even if it did have one