Struggling between two builds, please help !

Struggling between two builds, please help !

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Posted by: Kehlian.4380

Kehlian.4380

Hi mates ! Me again, about builds, again…

I narrowed my choices on two builds, both based on what Heim’ linked in his awesome post.
One is power, while the other is more hybrid.

Power: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAT8YnEqAtsgtCCOsActgBOhqH2+OA4g9Xz7vxX8EvgJVA-TlTDABM8QA6UNkHOCA5t/gPKNCSJmAmeeSZQCXAQJ4LqGQimBQ0BAgJoYUxgUABu1C-w

Hybrid: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV8YjEqQLLWuCOsAVLG4EqeYr0AgD2fNv/GfxT8CmUB-TlTDABMcRA6UNEEeCA5t/gPKNCSJmAmeOR3wTKDSQJoyqCUjKGJrSAAmgIFQgrBA-w

Those are roaming builds. For money issue, I used exo because that’s what I can afford at the moment. Working on my full ascended

Anyway. In the hybrid, I loose some ferocity to Condi damage. I try to apply as much bleed as I can, while still dealing some decent damage on side.

I wonder if the loss of power is worth the condi damage. Should I focus on one type of damage ?

The weapon sets are what I plan to use, I don’t know if axe or dagger is best off-hand for a power, though, I’m comfortable with the dagger movement ability.

Again for money reason, I plan on using this in dungeons too. I don’t do fractale yet, I’m talking about Destiny’s Edge’s dungeons.

Could you guys tell me why you would pick one or the other ?

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Struggling between two builds, please help !

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

If the mandate u’r giving me is to pick one of the 2, I would go with the power build.
If u want to stick with the SB one, i think some twiks are required.
(Edit – cannot ignore it, drop LOYF for quickdraw).

Struggling between two builds, please help !

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Posted by: Kehlian.4380

Kehlian.4380

Are you sure about that ? I mean, I don’t have really long CD, what would swapping those traits give me ?

Also, what tweaks would you apply to the SB one ?

EDIT: Tested and indeed, serpent’s strike and Poison Volley are much better !

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

Double dagger 4 its amazing, double RP is amazing double LB 3 is amazing, Just pick the tool u need for the right moment.

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Posted by: Kehlian.4380

Kehlian.4380

I also noticed I can’t stack might very well with so low precision on the hybrid build, so I guess i’ll drop those sigil of strength, and maybe take venom or accuracy

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

Regarding SB, I started with twiks and its just to far from the original and to close to a build that played out differently – hybrid might stacking with s-t/a-d. So… let me think about that. Thnigs to keep in mid with SB, you need more defence and condi clear tools compared to LB build cus u’r in the face of enemy most of the time. Try to include celec gear in your build for hybrid vlaue. Even with the food and sigils, dont expect to c more than 8 might stacks on you.

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Posted by: Kehlian.4380

Kehlian.4380

Yeah I got rid of the might stack, I took venom instead, but maybe there’s better like intelligence. Cele is a bit expansive for me, I’ll try to tweak that a bit.

Struggling between two builds, please help !

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Posted by: Kehlian.4380

Kehlian.4380

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV8YjEqQLLWuCOsAVLG4EqeYr0AgD2fNv/GfxT8CmUB-TVTDABdqGibKNe4iAgwTAIv9HgRFDnUidiuBlVFoLlBlqEMZVCAw0HpACcNA-w

What about that ?
Increased a lot of stats at the cost of 100 power (but got 100 condi damage, 50 toughness, and almost 10% crit damage)

EDIT 2: Since I don’t stack might, I don’t even need the might duration, so switched food, and regained some power and prec:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV8YjEqQLLWuCOsAVLG4EqeYr0AgD2fNv/GfxT8CmUB-TlTDABdqGibKNe4iAgwTAIv9HgRFDnUiJgpnT0NosqAdpMIZVCKVJIAmgIDg+aA-w

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

This what I came up with, nothing 2 amazing, hybrid builds are out of control moslt with the abuse of celec+might. It was always hard for ranger to stack might on himself so we tend to lean more on one type of damage. With the new condi formula bleed with 700 condi damage will do 60 for tick(the smae it was with 0 condi damage before ptach) its very underwheling. 10 bleeds on this build will do less damage than 2 burning on celec d/d ele. The damae bonus traits wont scale so good cus of low power so not alot of value to be gained, but atleast the crit chance is realy good and crit damage is ok.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV8YjEqQLLWyCOsAVLGMEq+dT9WgDg1t0/c/2r9S2VFA-TlCFABVfQAY4IAEwDAQu9HA4CAUoaAXpEEEdDoo6jVK/IFwdjtA-w

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Struggling between two builds, please help !

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Posted by: Kehlian.4380

Kehlian.4380

Yeah but bleed isn’t my only DoT source, there is poison too, and it hinders the heal of the foe, so… All in all, maybe bleed + poison = fire.

With this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV8YjEqQLLWuCOsAVLGMEq+dD2WgDg1tB+D42r9CmUB-T1TDABdqGibKNQ4JAk3+DOpETATPno7RZVB6SZQNqYksKBlqEEATQScQAi+CAQKA90VB-w

I got more condi damage, but less condi duration, crit damage and power. I guess your setup is better !

Thanks a lot. Also, I play with a buddy warrior (supporty~ish build), so might isn’t really a problem, I guess.
I bring him precision, he brings me power, condi damage, and might.

Struggling between two builds, please help !

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

LughLongArm.5460

Yeah but bleed isn’t my only DoT source, there is poison too, and it hinders the heal of the foe, so… All in all, maybe bleed + poison = fire.

With this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAV8YjEqQLLWuCOsAVLGMEq+dD2WgDg1tB+D42r9CmUB-T1TDABdqGibKNQ4JAk3+DOpETATPno7RZVB6SZQNqYksKBlqEEATQScQAi+CAQKA90VB-w

I got more condi damage, but less condi duration, crit damage and power. I guess your setup is better !

Thanks a lot. Also, I play with a buddy warrior (supporty~ish build), so might isn’t really a problem, I guess.
I bring him precision, he brings me power, condi damage, and might.

Dont missout on the condi duration food, it realy will help you bleed ticks stick. Also QZ is very very good with SB, it will give ya the extra mobility and pressure source vs sustaind builds, I wouldnt missout on that also.
With boost from a warrior(might ,power, condi damage) and the wvw buff, you might become deadly.
Good luck.

Struggling between two builds, please help !

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Posted by: Kehlian.4380

Kehlian.4380

Thanks a lot for your help, again !