[Suggestion]WHaO trait synergy

[Suggestion]WHaO trait synergy

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Posted by: Stilgar.6437

Stilgar.6437

WHaO is getting a change, might is no longer capped in stacks (duration is always 10s). THis is quite a nice change, mainly for pve where pet misses out on all might the party generates so you can just heal to buff it to 20+.

What bothers me is that it has great synergy with BM minor companions might (when you crit, pet gets might), but the problem is resounding timbre (shout trait) is on the same tier. Untraited whao cant really compete with troll. It would be great if you could pick both these traits especially in pvp.

So the suggestion is to move resounding or companion to master tier and drop natural healing to adept. Natural healing is a pretty bad trait since pets have absolutely no use for HP (even if you take moa, the only pet that has a skill that heals, the trait is not worth it).

THen you have a good choice – troll for fury, condi cleanse and better AF generation or WHaO for reliable might generation and some party support.

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Posted by: Photinous.4628

Photinous.4628

I don’t actually agree. Companions might is awful in PvP, the might duration is only 6s and our attack speed in bad for any weapon set. In PvE, resounding timbre is pretty awful. I think they are fine as is. Also I find natural healing to be really good for keeping pets alive in PvP. It’s around a 400hps sustain.

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Posted by: Stilgar.6437

Stilgar.6437

I don’t actually agree. Companions might is awful in PvP, the might duration is only 6s and our attack speed in bad for any weapon set. In PvE, resounding timbre is pretty awful. I think they are fine as is. Also I find natural healing to be really good for keeping pets alive in PvP. It’s around a 400hps sustain.

you are severely underestimating that trait. rapid fire (+sigil procs), barrage, shortbow, axe, they can all generate decent amounts of might from companions. add that to any might generation you already have and might from teammates. plus you are always copying 10s per stack. It would be quite nice.

In pve, you are using companion in the meta build and nothing useful in major really. with the whao change, resounding timbre is very nice for your pet dps (since you are almost always copying 20+ stacks).

And natural healing is terrible in pvp, if you are taking moa to pvp or using that bad NM gm trait, you are doing something wrong. 125hps is not worth a major, you are much better of using weakness on f2. you are traiting BM, you get all the pet bonuses, health regen is not neccessery since your pet is tougher and pet swap cd is reduced. Outside of fighting burn guards sometimes, even my squishy birds almost never die in pvp. And natural healing wont outheal 12 burn stacks anyway.

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

I’d rather see natural healing getting buffed back to providing regen to the ranger and pet, and then swapping either of those traits with 2 handed training instead.

I rely on resounding timbre and the GS cooldown reduction for mobility on a lot of my builds, putting them in the same tier would be rough.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

I’d say it’s perfectly fine without having both.

You should be able to pick from sustain or damage. Having both nice things is not really necessary. If you want utility/swiftness – pick Timbre.
If you want pure DPS and pet management – get companion’s might.

If you want both, get NM alongside with Beast Mastery for Timbre. (Maybe alongside with druid). Not only the might will be 25 all times, it will also have 16 second cooldown only.

You sacrifice Spotter and Quickdraw (Skirm) / 20% damage (MM) / Druid (sustain) in order to get this self-sustainable might benefit.
It’s balanced in my opinion.

That’s pretty much it.
I don’t agree with having everything at the same time.

“Observe, learn and counter.”

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