Sword 1 is the only autoattack that roots

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Posted by: RevanCorana.8942

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The sword could be such a fun and skilled weapons without this lock on autoattack root thing.
The best way to work around it at the moment is not to target anything when using it but that’s not very practical.
I think we need to be able to move between each hit and dodge when we want not have to wait for the end of the cycle to do anything.

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Posted by: Cufufalating.8479

Cufufalating.8479

This has been brought up so many times. The underlying fact is that the “leaping” element of the attacks is both what makes the sword unique and what causes the problem.

They can’t (or at very least won’t) fix it without removing the unique functionallity, which many people don’t want.

Also I am curious, how the hell do you use it without a target?

Cufufalating – Ranger / Part-Time Mesmer
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Posted by: Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582

Getting so sick of people calling Pounce a root as it is the total opposite. Pounce provides amazing mobility for sticking to a fleeing target, so you continually leap to their position as they try and kite away from you. If it were a root, you would not move at all.

The only time it could be considered a root if you are AA DPSing a boss that is standing there doing nothing. In which case, you need to either;

  1. Turn off the AA toggle and spam 1 or,
  2. Switch weapons when you want to evade.

It is easy. Pounce is by far the best part of sword. We don’t need the game dumbed down any more than it is. This is really a L2P and adapt thing.

Don’t get me wrong though, #2 & 3 should break the animation, but you can play it perfectly fine by simply doing either 1 or 2 above.

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Posted by: Mohagi.2738

Mohagi.2738

But why should 1 and 2 be needed?
I agree you can work around it but why not just fix the root without changing sword, how hard could that be?

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Posted by: Wondrouswall.7169

Wondrouswall.7169

Can’t change sword to allow a dodge without removing the leap, at least by how Anet has eluded in past posts. You can’t even dodge out of Eviscerate on Warrior which is similar to Pounce, but when a move isn’t an auto attack, it isn’t as noticed.

Oh, well!

PET PRECISION & DPS TESTS -OUTDATED-
Will update once Path of Fire releases.

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Posted by: RevanCorana.8942

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@Cufufalating : Without a target means you press 1 near your foe without having him targetted (tab) that way you won’t combo automatically, but you need to aim by holding right click.

I’m not sure that it can’t be fixed actually I see a simple way to fix this issue without removing the leap aspect.

- Disable auto attacking for the sword (meaning you won’t cycle through automatically but will have to press the key 3 times to do it yourself allowing to move and doges in between steps)
- Allow players to use utility skills between each step of the combo

That way it would work just as when you use sword 1 without targetting anything, but with the auto aim.

Any other ideas?

Having to switch weapons is just clunky and you won’t always have it up when needed.
It’s not a dumbing down or a l2p issue it’s the opposite it makes it more skilled, the fact is when you press 1 with a sword you basically stun yourself for 2 seconds making it unreliable and unfun.

The trait also sucks compared to greatsword

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Posted by: Cufufalating.8479

Cufufalating.8479

I should have been more clear.. I know how to attack without a target, it’s a pretty normal way of using a melee weapon. With the sword though don’t you just end up flying through your oppenent in a pretty unhelpful manner?

Cufufalating – Ranger / Part-Time Mesmer
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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

Don’t you know that Ranger is not allowed to have nice things because our balance lies entirely around one random engi’s opinion and not the community as a whole?

1. We’re the only class that has self root weapon that will harm you more than benefits you.
2. We’re the only class that has 30% or more of the mechanic bound to AI and the survival of AI.
3. We’re the only class that has weapon that requires you to flank to be effective. (While Engi’s pistol is able to have 100% increase condition duration with their unconditional bleed on auto 1, which is also AOE too LOL Seriously, stop imagining that SB would be OP without the requirement because engi already does it better with their traited pistol )

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Posted by: RevanCorana.8942

RevanCorana.8942

I should have been more clear.. I know how to attack without a target, it’s a pretty normal way of using a melee weapon. With the sword though don’t you just end up flying through your oppenent in a pretty unhelpful manner?

Well Kick and Bounce both have a radius of ~150 after leaping that’s what I mean by “but you have to aim it”

@Aomine : The pet choice is very important some aren’t half bad but most are.
Shortbow is terrible I agree.
What do you mean our balance rely on 1 player?
Isn’t Anet supervising those things?

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

I should have been more clear.. I know how to attack without a target, it’s a pretty normal way of using a melee weapon. With the sword though don’t you just end up flying through your oppenent in a pretty unhelpful manner?

Well Kick and Bounce both have a radius of ~150 after leaping that’s what I mean by “but you have to aim it”

@Aomine : The pet choice is very important some aren’t half bad but most are.
Shortbow is terrible I agree.
What do you mean our balance rely on 1 player?
Isn’t Anet supervising those things?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Fix-for-Taunt-coming-soon-Confirmed/first#post5250176

Basically our survival lies on that one random engi’s word to determine how the developers going to treat us. The developers show ZERO communication with us rangers, but listen to whatever that random Engi says. (Go figure out how many red posts there are since the update. You’d only see the red-post related to some bugs or forgotten messages, that’s all.)

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Posted by: Mem no Fushia.7604

Mem no Fushia.7604

Imo ele earth shield autoattack is smiliar but it is conjured weapon so I don’t know if it is count.