Everybody forget something with the GS, the #3 and #4 deals good damages too.
The #5 give to your pet +50% damage on his next attack too, the GS is the best melee weapon to burst.ranger can’t burst. thats one of its problems.
PvP is controlled by burst classes and those without burst get left behindRanger can, not like a rogue of course, but we can. I’m testing a pure melee build, and I can deal ~10k damage in less than 3sec, without big cooldown.
Actually rangers can burst just as heavy and well as thieves, its just that no one knows how to control pets properly. I can do a 15-20k burst in under 3 seconds.
Okay, both of you, what builds are you using? Because this sounds crazy.
Don’t bother. He still thinks that no one can counter his stun, lol.
But I don’t use stuns o-o. My burst actually doesn’t require any snares or cc.
I didn’t mean you. =P
@ Substance E, I believe he runs ravens, which you don’t need someone to stand still for as much. For the drake LB attack, you need to be fighting a statue or someone who’s afk.
Or you know, a point defense… Or someone that’s trying to Melee your face off… Because most people in Melee range of you are gonna get nuked if you have half a brain and stand infront of your drake that’s charging his laser ESPECIALLY if you were awesome with pet positioning (from the sounds of your posts you’re FAR from being decent) and have the drake behind the enemy, you know, so they don’t see it.
I’d like to see a video of ranger bursting…
And another one bursting verse a good opponent…
I’d like to see a video of ranger bursting…
And another one bursting verse a good opponent…
I agree tbh… I haven’t BURSTED anyone… I guess 15 stacks of confusion/25 stacks of bleed in about 3 seconds could be -burst- but I don’t consider that burst…
I’d like to see a video of ranger bursting…
And another one bursting verse a good opponent…I agree tbh… I haven’t BURSTED anyone… I guess 15 stacks of confusion/25 stacks of bleed in about 3 seconds could be -burst- but I don’t consider that burst…
I would do it but I really dont want to be the one to give away my build hehe
I’d like to see a video of ranger bursting…
And another one bursting verse a good opponent…I agree tbh… I haven’t BURSTED anyone… I guess 15 stacks of confusion/25 stacks of bleed in about 3 seconds could be -burst- but I don’t consider that burst…
I would do it but I really dont want to be the one to give away my build hehe
The lying is strong with this one.
I’d like to see a video of ranger bursting…
And another one bursting verse a good opponent…I agree tbh… I haven’t BURSTED anyone… I guess 15 stacks of confusion/25 stacks of bleed in about 3 seconds could be -burst- but I don’t consider that burst…
I would do it but I really dont want to be the one to give away my build hehe
The lying is strong with this one.
I’ll gladly fight you and kill you in under 5 seconds if thats the proof youd want. but not sharing my build.
I’d like to see a video of ranger bursting…
And another one bursting verse a good opponent…I agree tbh… I haven’t BURSTED anyone… I guess 15 stacks of confusion/25 stacks of bleed in about 3 seconds could be -burst- but I don’t consider that burst…
I would do it but I really dont want to be the one to give away my build hehe
The lying is strong with this one.
I’ll gladly fight you and kill you in under 5 seconds if thats the proof youd want. but not sharing my build.
I don’t blame you, the second you post it on forums everyone begins copying it and then the counters start Rollin out… This is why I change my build whenever I see a similar build floating around popular places xD
I’d like to see a video of ranger bursting…
And another one bursting verse a good opponent…I agree tbh… I haven’t BURSTED anyone… I guess 15 stacks of confusion/25 stacks of bleed in about 3 seconds could be -burst- but I don’t consider that burst…
I would do it but I really dont want to be the one to give away my build hehe
The lying is strong with this one.
I’ll gladly fight you and kill you in under 5 seconds if thats the proof youd want. but not sharing my build.
I don’t blame you, the second you post it on forums everyone begins copying it and then the counters start Rollin out… This is why I change my build whenever I see a similar build floating around popular places xD
Finally someone who understands. I don’t want this to be the new FOTM thing for rangers. If you want to figure out the build out yourself, play around with your traits for several hours like I did lol.
I’d like to see a video of ranger bursting…
And another one bursting verse a good opponent…I agree tbh… I haven’t BURSTED anyone… I guess 15 stacks of confusion/25 stacks of bleed in about 3 seconds could be -burst- but I don’t consider that burst…
I would do it but I really dont want to be the one to give away my build hehe
The lying is strong with this one.
I’ll gladly fight you and kill you in under 5 seconds if thats the proof youd want. but not sharing my build.
I don’t blame you, the second you post it on forums everyone begins copying it and then the counters start Rollin out… This is why I change my build whenever I see a similar build floating around popular places xD
Finally someone who understands. I don’t want this to be the new FOTM thing for rangers. If you want to figure out the build out yourself, play around with your traits for several hours like I did lol.
You can still make a video without posting your build…
Just sayin’
I’d like to see a video of ranger bursting…
And another one bursting verse a good opponent…I agree tbh… I haven’t BURSTED anyone… I guess 15 stacks of confusion/25 stacks of bleed in about 3 seconds could be -burst- but I don’t consider that burst…
I would do it but I really dont want to be the one to give away my build hehe
The lying is strong with this one.
I’ll gladly fight you and kill you in under 5 seconds if thats the proof youd want. but not sharing my build.
I don’t blame you, the second you post it on forums everyone begins copying it and then the counters start Rollin out… This is why I change my build whenever I see a similar build floating around popular places xD
Finally someone who understands. I don’t want this to be the new FOTM thing for rangers. If you want to figure out the build out yourself, play around with your traits for several hours like I did lol.
You can still make a video without posting your build…
Just sayin’
This is true, and if you do this and you’re REALLY paranoid i’d just black out your skill bar in the video so it’d make it borderline impossible for people to get your build down exactly
So you don’t like popular builds. That’s fine, you can be a special snowflake and run around with spirits, sword mainhand and axe offhand as your primary weapon, and center your burst around a drake’s lightning breath…
And you will kill people. You will win games. You can even do this enough to make a fancy video where you show off how you do this.
But that doesn’t change the fact that you are equipping yourself with tools that are less effective than someone running a cookie cutter short bow build.
These cookie cutter builds are popular for a reason. You can tell yourself that we all just jump on the forums and copy what the cool guys run without trying anything else and if that lets you sleep better at night, then go for it, but I’ve tried the unconventional AND the conventional. And I’m not alone in this. I could care less if someone thinks I’m a special snowflake because I run something different, because I choose what works best.
Because in the end, it’s not about what works. It’s about what works BETTER.
So you don’t like popular builds. That’s fine, you can be a special snowflake and run around with spirits, sword mainhand and axe offhand as your primary weapon, and center your burst around a drake’s lightning breath…
And you will kill people. You will win games. You can even do this enough to make a fancy video where you show off how you do this.
But that doesn’t change the fact that you are equipping yourself with tools that are less effective than someone running a cookie cutter short bow build.
These cookie cutter builds are popular for a reason. You can tell yourself that we all just jump on the forums and copy what the cool guys run without trying anything else and if that lets you sleep better at night, then go for it, but I’ve tried the unconventional AND the conventional. And I’m not alone in this. I could care less if someone thinks I’m a special snowflake because I run something different, because I choose what works best.
Because in the end, it’s not about what works. It’s about what works BETTER.
cookie cutter builds are popular because they work.
So you don’t like popular builds. That’s fine, you can be a special snowflake and run around with spirits, sword mainhand and axe offhand as your primary weapon, and center your burst around a drake’s lightning breath…
And you will kill people. You will win games. You can even do this enough to make a fancy video where you show off how you do this.
But that doesn’t change the fact that you are equipping yourself with tools that are less effective than someone running a cookie cutter short bow build.
These cookie cutter builds are popular for a reason. You can tell yourself that we all just jump on the forums and copy what the cool guys run without trying anything else and if that lets you sleep better at night, then go for it, but I’ve tried the unconventional AND the conventional. And I’m not alone in this. I could care less if someone thinks I’m a special snowflake because I run something different, because I choose what works best.
Because in the end, it’s not about what works. It’s about what works BETTER.
Aw, how cute, you’re saying that because i’m not running a cookie cutter build i’m sub optimal… where have i heard this before…. oh yeah, WoW… Huh, i wonder if you used to play that?
i’ve said this in like every thread you kitten and moan in about how i’m playing “sub optimally” just because -you- think you need to be a cookie cutter to work (you know the exact opposite of Anets philosophy) doesn’t mean it’s true, ESPECIALLY in GW2.
You live in your lala land where spirits are useless, off hand axe isn’t viable, 1h sword is bad and shortbow is the only good bow, but don’t come crying to me when you’re -still- getting your kitten handed to you by thieves and don’t even complain about how ranger is UP, because we’re not, our utilities are lack luster, but they’re still -good-.
So you don’t like popular builds. That’s fine, you can be a special snowflake and run around with spirits, sword mainhand and axe offhand as your primary weapon, and center your burst around a drake’s lightning breath…
And you will kill people. You will win games. You can even do this enough to make a fancy video where you show off how you do this.
But that doesn’t change the fact that you are equipping yourself with tools that are less effective than someone running a cookie cutter short bow build.
These cookie cutter builds are popular for a reason. You can tell yourself that we all just jump on the forums and copy what the cool guys run without trying anything else and if that lets you sleep better at night, then go for it, but I’ve tried the unconventional AND the conventional. And I’m not alone in this. I could care less if someone thinks I’m a special snowflake because I run something different, because I choose what works best.
Because in the end, it’s not about what works. It’s about what works BETTER.
Aw, how cute, you’re saying that because i’m not running a cookie cutter build i’m sub optimal… where have i heard this before…. oh yeah, WoW… Huh, i wonder if you used to play that?
i’ve said this in like every thread you kitten and moan in about how i’m playing “sub optimally” just because -you- think you need to be a cookie cutter to work (you know the exact opposite of Anets philosophy) doesn’t mean it’s true, ESPECIALLY in GW2.
You live in your lala land where spirits are useless, off hand axe isn’t viable, 1h sword is bad and shortbow is the only good bow, but don’t come crying to me when you’re -still- getting your kitten handed to you by thieves and don’t even complain about how ranger is UP, because we’re not, our utilities are lack luster, but they’re still -good-.
lol who the kitten complains about 1h sword, whoever that is should die in a hole. Long bow is also fine other than the obstruction problem. And offhand axe is just not my cup of tea but I’m sure it has great combo field potential.
So you don’t like popular builds. That’s fine, you can be a special snowflake and run around with spirits, sword mainhand and axe offhand as your primary weapon, and center your burst around a drake’s lightning breath…
And you will kill people. You will win games. You can even do this enough to make a fancy video where you show off how you do this.
But that doesn’t change the fact that you are equipping yourself with tools that are less effective than someone running a cookie cutter short bow build.
These cookie cutter builds are popular for a reason. You can tell yourself that we all just jump on the forums and copy what the cool guys run without trying anything else and if that lets you sleep better at night, then go for it, but I’ve tried the unconventional AND the conventional. And I’m not alone in this. I could care less if someone thinks I’m a special snowflake because I run something different, because I choose what works best.
Because in the end, it’s not about what works. It’s about what works BETTER.
Aw, how cute, you’re saying that because i’m not running a cookie cutter build i’m sub optimal… where have i heard this before…. oh yeah, WoW… Huh, i wonder if you used to play that?
i’ve said this in like every thread you kitten and moan in about how i’m playing “sub optimally” just because -you- think you need to be a cookie cutter to work (you know the exact opposite of Anets philosophy) doesn’t mean it’s true, ESPECIALLY in GW2.
You live in your lala land where spirits are useless, off hand axe isn’t viable, 1h sword is bad and shortbow is the only good bow, but don’t come crying to me when you’re -still- getting your kitten handed to you by thieves and don’t even complain about how ranger is UP, because we’re not, our utilities are lack luster, but they’re still -good-.
lol who the kitten complains about 1h sword, whoever that is should die in a hole. Long bow is also fine other than the obstruction problem. And offhand axe is just not my cup of tea but I’m sure it has great combo field potential.
Oh understandable, i personally hate the dagger, i think it’s boring and not as flashy (i need to be flashy in my playing lol, it’s a curse) but it’s most certainly effective! Longbow is the only bow i touch on ranger, shortbows just bleh, normally i favor the fast shooting option but it just lacks the area control that longbow has… my main issue is deciding on whether i want to use greatsword or short sword as my melee option (obviously if i choose great i go with axe/axe for ranged)… so many options…
So you don’t like popular builds. That’s fine, you can be a special snowflake and run around with spirits, sword mainhand and axe offhand as your primary weapon, and center your burst around a drake’s lightning breath…
And you will kill people. You will win games. You can even do this enough to make a fancy video where you show off how you do this.
But that doesn’t change the fact that you are equipping yourself with tools that are less effective than someone running a cookie cutter short bow build.
These cookie cutter builds are popular for a reason. You can tell yourself that we all just jump on the forums and copy what the cool guys run without trying anything else and if that lets you sleep better at night, then go for it, but I’ve tried the unconventional AND the conventional. And I’m not alone in this. I could care less if someone thinks I’m a special snowflake because I run something different, because I choose what works best.
Because in the end, it’s not about what works. It’s about what works BETTER.
Aw, how cute, you’re saying that because i’m not running a cookie cutter build i’m sub optimal… where have i heard this before…. oh yeah, WoW… Huh, i wonder if you used to play that?
i’ve said this in like every thread you kitten and moan in about how i’m playing “sub optimally” just because -you- think you need to be a cookie cutter to work (you know the exact opposite of Anets philosophy) doesn’t mean it’s true, ESPECIALLY in GW2.
You live in your lala land where spirits are useless, off hand axe isn’t viable, 1h sword is bad and shortbow is the only good bow, but don’t come crying to me when you’re -still- getting your kitten handed to you by thieves and don’t even complain about how ranger is UP, because we’re not, our utilities are lack luster, but they’re still -good-.
lol who the kitten complains about 1h sword, whoever that is should die in a hole. Long bow is also fine other than the obstruction problem. And offhand axe is just not my cup of tea but I’m sure it has great combo field potential.
Oh understandable, i personally hate the dagger, i think it’s boring and not as flashy (i need to be flashy in my playing lol, it’s a curse) but it’s most certainly effective! Longbow is the only bow i touch on ranger, shortbows just bleh, normally i favor the fast shooting option but it just lacks the area control that longbow has… my main issue is deciding on whether i want to use greatsword or short sword as my melee option (obviously if i choose great i go with axe/axe for ranged)… so many options…
Longbow is great in certain situations, it’s too bad people try to use it as a burst weapon which it is clearly not designed for. And another problem with using axe offhand imo is that it has 0 synergy with any main hand weapons. Axe mainhand has horrible raw damage without condi damage and sword is more about evades while using whirling defence you are basically a sitting duck.
So you don’t like popular builds. That’s fine, you can be a special snowflake and run around with spirits, sword mainhand and axe offhand as your primary weapon, and center your burst around a drake’s lightning breath…
And you will kill people. You will win games. You can even do this enough to make a fancy video where you show off how you do this.
But that doesn’t change the fact that you are equipping yourself with tools that are less effective than someone running a cookie cutter short bow build.
These cookie cutter builds are popular for a reason. You can tell yourself that we all just jump on the forums and copy what the cool guys run without trying anything else and if that lets you sleep better at night, then go for it, but I’ve tried the unconventional AND the conventional. And I’m not alone in this. I could care less if someone thinks I’m a special snowflake because I run something different, because I choose what works best.
Because in the end, it’s not about what works. It’s about what works BETTER.
Aw, how cute, you’re saying that because i’m not running a cookie cutter build i’m sub optimal… where have i heard this before…. oh yeah, WoW… Huh, i wonder if you used to play that?
i’ve said this in like every thread you kitten and moan in about how i’m playing “sub optimally” just because -you- think you need to be a cookie cutter to work (you know the exact opposite of Anets philosophy) doesn’t mean it’s true, ESPECIALLY in GW2.
You live in your lala land where spirits are useless, off hand axe isn’t viable, 1h sword is bad and shortbow is the only good bow, but don’t come crying to me when you’re -still- getting your kitten handed to you by thieves and don’t even complain about how ranger is UP, because we’re not, our utilities are lack luster, but they’re still -good-.
lol who the kitten complains about 1h sword, whoever that is should die in a hole. Long bow is also fine other than the obstruction problem. And offhand axe is just not my cup of tea but I’m sure it has great combo field potential.
Oh understandable, i personally hate the dagger, i think it’s boring and not as flashy (i need to be flashy in my playing lol, it’s a curse) but it’s most certainly effective! Longbow is the only bow i touch on ranger, shortbows just bleh, normally i favor the fast shooting option but it just lacks the area control that longbow has… my main issue is deciding on whether i want to use greatsword or short sword as my melee option (obviously if i choose great i go with axe/axe for ranged)… so many options…
Longbow is great in certain situations, it’s too bad people try to use it as a burst weapon which it is clearly not designed for. And another problem with using axe offhand imo is that it has 0 synergy with any main hand weapons. Axe mainhand has horrible raw damage without condi damage and sword is more about evades while using whirling defence you are basically a sitting duck.
Yeah my builds more about controlling an area, so standing still is kinda not an issue for me, and longbow i’ve learned is really good for ninjaing points out from under a point defense (barrage ontop of the point to stack up cripple —→ shoot them off of the point) oh so many times i have literally CAPTURED a point against a premade in tPvP lol… damage wise… yeah longbows not so much there, at least for me, but then again i’m not build to deal damage myself i’m designed for constant pressure and then my pet is the killer.
So you don’t like popular builds. That’s fine, you can be a special snowflake and run around with spirits, sword mainhand and axe offhand as your primary weapon, and center your burst around a drake’s lightning breath…
And you will kill people. You will win games. You can even do this enough to make a fancy video where you show off how you do this.
But that doesn’t change the fact that you are equipping yourself with tools that are less effective than someone running a cookie cutter short bow build.
These cookie cutter builds are popular for a reason. You can tell yourself that we all just jump on the forums and copy what the cool guys run without trying anything else and if that lets you sleep better at night, then go for it, but I’ve tried the unconventional AND the conventional. And I’m not alone in this. I could care less if someone thinks I’m a special snowflake because I run something different, because I choose what works best.
Because in the end, it’s not about what works. It’s about what works BETTER.
Aw, how cute, you’re saying that because i’m not running a cookie cutter build i’m sub optimal… where have i heard this before…. oh yeah, WoW… Huh, i wonder if you used to play that?
i’ve said this in like every thread you kitten and moan in about how i’m playing “sub optimally” just because -you- think you need to be a cookie cutter to work (you know the exact opposite of Anets philosophy) doesn’t mean it’s true, ESPECIALLY in GW2.
You live in your lala land where spirits are useless, off hand axe isn’t viable, 1h sword is bad and shortbow is the only good bow, but don’t come crying to me when you’re -still- getting your kitten handed to you by thieves and don’t even complain about how ranger is UP, because we’re not, our utilities are lack luster, but they’re still -good-.
lol who the kitten complains about 1h sword, whoever that is should die in a hole. Long bow is also fine other than the obstruction problem. And offhand axe is just not my cup of tea but I’m sure it has great combo field potential.
Oh understandable, i personally hate the dagger, i think it’s boring and not as flashy (i need to be flashy in my playing lol, it’s a curse) but it’s most certainly effective! Longbow is the only bow i touch on ranger, shortbows just bleh, normally i favor the fast shooting option but it just lacks the area control that longbow has… my main issue is deciding on whether i want to use greatsword or short sword as my melee option (obviously if i choose great i go with axe/axe for ranged)… so many options…
Longbow is great in certain situations, it’s too bad people try to use it as a burst weapon which it is clearly not designed for. And another problem with using axe offhand imo is that it has 0 synergy with any main hand weapons. Axe mainhand has horrible raw damage without condi damage and sword is more about evades while using whirling defence you are basically a sitting duck.
Yeah my builds more about controlling an area, so standing still is kinda not an issue for me, and longbow i’ve learned is really good for ninjaing points out from under a point defense (barrage ontop of the point to stack up cripple —-> shoot them off of the point) oh so many times i have literally CAPTURED a point against a premade in tPvP lol… damage wise… yeah longbows not so much there, at least for me, but then again i’m not build to deal damage myself i’m designed for constant pressure and then my pet is the killer.
Yeah the low cool down FARTHEST (yes I said farthest) knockback in the game is hilarious and I absolutely love it. If you trait properly the longbow actually has quite good pressure, nearing the end of longbow #2 you are getting 6-8k crits and their hp bar actually looks like it’s being hit by stacks of conditions when it’s actually 6-8k crit arrow shots. That sustained damage + your pet burst = no joke for anyone.
Please read what I say before getting all offended just because I don’t appreciate how precious you are for running something different.
I don’t think axe, spirits, drake, blah blah is useless or “not viable”. As I JUST said, it works!
It really does! You can read these words right now as I just stated and understand that I don’t think they are somehow useless things that will doom you into utter failure.
But they are simply not as good as what you could do otherwise.
I know this is comprehend since I’m measuring on a sliding scale of relativism instead of a “THIS GOOD OR THIS BAD” dichotomy, but stick with me here.
All I’m saying is that unless you just need to stroke your ego or need to convince yourself that you’re a precious unique flower, there’s no reason to use something LESS effective, even if you can get away with using it to some extent.
Please read what I say before getting all offended just because I don’t appreciate how precious you are for running something different.
I don’t think axe, spirits, drake, blah blah is useless or “not viable”. As I JUST said, it works!
It really does! You can read these words right now as I just stated and understand that I don’t think they are somehow useless things that will doom you into utter failure.
But they are simply not as good as what you could do otherwise.
I know this is comprehend since I’m measuring on a sliding scale of relativism instead of a “THIS GOOD OR THIS BAD” dichotomy, but stick with me here.
All I’m saying is that unless you just need to stroke your ego or need to convince yourself that you’re a precious unique flower, there’s no reason to use something LESS effective, even if you can get away with using it to some extent.
I wouldn’t say the trap build is better than the build I’m running, each of them have advantages in different situations really.
But I do see your point.
I said suboptimal, as in you’re saying it’s not as good i never said you were saying it’s bad. And i don’t need to stroke my ego i’m just saying i’m using something -other- then what’s saying to be the “godsend of ranger builds” (hyperbole ofc) and i’m doing better then when i tried out the suggested “better” options.
I’m just saying, just because people say something is better and is the only way to do something without playing a lesser build doesn’t mean it’s true, i’d say my build is -on par- with the current ranger “meta” one. It’s better in some situations (like fighting thieves it appears) but sucks in others, like having to chase people down, or you know… ensure i kill, my builds more of a defensive reactive build, i counter and punish.
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