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Posted by: Derpblade.3940

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Hello rangers!
I need help as a new ranger, just like in tittle, would be this build good?
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV3fnMqQJL2yC2CCVLG4PoWfAFQA0eHe2o1VSkyMuyaLA
If not, then what would you change, I need advice. Hope you can help me.

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Posted by: psizone.8437

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Change Bark Skin to Empathic Bond for the condition removal if you do WvW or PvP.

Might be worth changing axe to sword for the evades and escape options.

For armour I’d go for either rabid, dire or apothecary’s. Ideal runes would be either undead for more damage, melandru for higher condi-survival or travelers for the +25% movement speed and mix of survival and damaging stats.

Other than that, it’s a solid build!

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Posted by: Narkodx.1472

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http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV3fnMqQJL2yC2CCVLG4PoWfAFQA0eHe2o1VSkyMuyaLA

Try that. It is tankier with perma regen through natures voice and two shouts. Two stunbreakers. Sword for mobility and evades also makes you tankier and empathetic bond is all you need for clearing condis. Apothecary or Settlers gear will make this a beast. If you want to keep offhand torch I recommend balthazar runes to give it more punch. It is what I use in WvWvW. Very effective!

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Posted by: awge.3852

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Take a look at the guide I posted here, I hope you find the condition/tanky builds useful, take your time enjoying each of them and good luck!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/LF-Guide-on-WvW-sPvP-Build-s/first#post3951880

Mon Fils — Favorable Winds [Wind] — Blackgate
Ranger’s guide to PvP/WvW: http://tinyurl.com/oht3e9z

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Posted by: Derpblade.3940

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Narkodx, you sent link to my build xD
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psizone, thanks for tips, i’ll use sword and i’ll change Bar Skin! And what about PvE, because that’s what i mostly play (PvE and WvW), so what about equipment there? What kind of gems/runes should i get to sb/sword/torch and eq? And apothecary isn’t for me, so which one do you recommend more? Dire or Rabid? (I think Dire will be better, since i don’t really need critical hits that much :o)
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awge, thanks! Will this build work as well in WvW/PvE as it works in PvP?
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8fjEq0xaLLmsQ1aABhaVA0uGS2u2d+eDfdBbqA-TphAwAeOCAL3fgcZAAHEgOXAgNPAAA

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Posted by: awge.3852

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Narkodx, you sent link to my build xD
awge, thanks! Will this build work as well in WvW/PvE as it works in PvP?
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8fjEq0xaLLmsQ1aABhaVA0uGS2u2d+eDfdBbqA-TphAwAeOCAL3fgcZAAHEgOXAgNPAAA

It works everywhere, it’s the one I use in PvP the most but to make it wvw/pve worth you will need dire or carrion armour. It can easily be modified to represent an aspect of condition damage that you like most (for example bleeding, burning, poison, etc).

Please keep in mind that all condition/bunker ranger builds require strong levels of combat experience, the build is good as long as you can use it the right way. So if you feel that this is going to be new to you, I highly suggest you go to pvp and train as hard as you can, preferably in 1 vs 1 arenas where you have the best opportunities to understand your enemy and yourself.

Mon Fils — Favorable Winds [Wind] — Blackgate
Ranger’s guide to PvP/WvW: http://tinyurl.com/oht3e9z

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Posted by: Narkodx.1472

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WOOPS! Sorry about the bad link!
The last build you posted is nice it should work. I use something similar in PvP myself. For WvWvW you wana focus on Settler/Apothecary equipment maximizing tankiness condition damage as well as healing through regen and TU

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Posted by: Derpblade.3940

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV8fjEq0xaLLmsQ1aABhaVA0uGS2l1dTkvfdBbqA-TphAwAeOCAL3fgcZAAHEgOXAgNPAAA

The final version of my build (changed a little bit awge’s one), what do you think about it? I changed some traits like “Dodge removes blind”, because i don’t think it’s really useful in PvE, and Poison Master to Bark Skin (this one, because i’ve already got condition remove with all my survival skills, and i’m using 3 of them). This build + Apothecary set, is it ok?

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Posted by: awge.3852

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If it’s for PvE then feel free to use whatever traits you like in adept/master for wilderness survival, you can’t go wrong even if you want to pop out a spirit or two. That’s what I like about it since it’s flexible depending on what you want.

Mon Fils — Favorable Winds [Wind] — Blackgate
Ranger’s guide to PvP/WvW: http://tinyurl.com/oht3e9z

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

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@ kitten blade: If you are using a condition build, especially with Shortbow, it is better to go sharpening stone instead of zephyr because SBow gets a reduced benefit from it. And you will stack far more bleeds with it.

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Posted by: Derpblade.3940

Derpblade.3940

@Chokolata – Why kitten? XD And it’s really nice idea, i was thinking about the same, i’ll surely check it out! Thanks!

@awge – Yeah, i thought so. Still thank you very much for sharing with your build, so we can base ours on it!

That’s it guys, i found my answers, hope this topic will help other Tanky/Condi Rangers as much as it did to me! xD Thanks to everyone again.

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Posted by: awge.3852

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@ kitten blade: If you are using a condition build, especially with Shortbow, it is better to go sharpening stone instead of zephyr because SBow gets a reduced benefit from it. And you will stack far more bleeds with it.

That’s right, this opens up a few possibilities. You can change your traits to add 2 trait points into skirmishing instead of marksmanship, for bleeding on critical hits, with sigil of earth on shortbow to further enhance bleeding via this weapon, and use sigil of intelligence to force critical hits to happen when you swap to short bow. That is a possibility but you should first test in pvp to see how it feels. In pve you can get rabid gear to further bump your precision → critical chance → more bleeds.

If you keep the current setup you can also achieve a lot of bleeds, by removing muddy terrain and using sharpening edges, you can use quickening zhephir when you can flank your enemy. Blast shortbow’s crossfire, apply sharpening edges, watch the stacks go up to 25 as the enemy’s health drops below 50 since your keen edge will trigger (adept trait from skirmishing), all of this will allow you to apply a ton of bleeds in one shot.

Mon Fils — Favorable Winds [Wind] — Blackgate
Ranger’s guide to PvP/WvW: http://tinyurl.com/oht3e9z

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

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for some reason kitten blade went into kitten blade. Its the autofilter.

Having said that, I ran into a very interesting ranger on the opposing team. He was running, as far as i could tell:

Shortbow and Axe/horn with earth sigils on each, not sure on the other sigils

The trait distribution was 10 10 20 30 0 with bleed stacking traits, wilderness training, XXX and SoTF. Hawk pet.

That guy dished out bleeds like a MFer… But 1v1, BM bunker reigns supreme still!!! It is so satisfying zephyr stomping on swap while your wolfie zephyr howls to clear the area

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