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Posted by: Terravos.4059

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This is the only viable build I can see doing reasonably well

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vMAQRAnf8YjEq0vaLL2sw1agYVQQtHcy8Yy9w/dCAlMqmA-z0BBoODimqI0kHBKTqIasFTFRjVJjIqWpEjUALKNC-w

and i still don’t think i’d be better then Shout or BM Bunker

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Posted by: meikodesign.6471

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I’d made the same but with barkskin and etangle (maybe).

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

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I think you’re a little over-the-top with condi cleansing in this build, rofl.

You have 4 conditions taken away every 10 seconds, 2 removed on use of Lightning Reflexes (32 seconds), 2 removed on Sharpening Stone (36 seconds) and 2 removed when your enemy hits 75% hp (36 second cd).

Oh and poison and blind removed on dodge, lmao.

I think this shows how much condi removal rangers will have access to, but it’s really just too much focus on condi removal to be viable unless something changes the meta to be even more condi-focused than it was when necros were at their prime.

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Posted by: Kilrik.6320

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The build looks sturdy, but I am surprised that you give up any additional healing including signet of the wild. Based on your videos, you evade well enough to pull it off, yet I would still be curious how it fares then with thieves or mesmers with physical damage spikes. Condi-bomb necros and hambows will wonder what happened-lol!

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Posted by: Terravos.4059

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You cannot go over the top with condi cleansing in this game…..as a BM Bunker Ranger, i can apply everyone of my conditions pretty much every 10 seconds….which is pretty much all of them except torment and confusion.

As for giving up the Signet of the Wild…SoR is needed for fighting things like a Necromancer….if you don’t have it, you’ll probably die.

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Posted by: rpfohr.7048

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Ill be rolling this.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vMAQNAV8fnEqQrg2yCesAXLGIaP4k5xErghcP8fnAQJjqJ-zUBBYhCypoFRjtMsIasKZER1KlYkCYRpRA-w

sickem just to help with thieves, will swap out on as need basis.

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Posted by: Terravos.4059

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don’t use Muddy Terrain, It in no way compares to SoR

Other then that, The build will work, though if you were to go Axe/Horn instead of Shortbow it might work better

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Posted by: rpfohr.7048

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good advice but…You just wait and see….
I am banking on SB becoming really good with 2 sigils. Air plus earth on super fast SB looks GREAT.
But ya, if it isn’t everything it im thinking it will be I’ll be doing A/W and probably swap out MT,

I run SoR on my trapper right now (with 2 traps) so I know how good it is. and its my switchin when not using sickem

MT come from my trapper playstyle, still need to have an AOE CC to zone and pew pew. good advice though, SS is great and I am thinking about it. QZ also looks good so I can pop it when i swap to sword for a good quick burst and throw down the fire.

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Posted by: Terravos.4059

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SB won’t be bad with 2 sigils… i’m just thinking about losing the Axe Weakness and Chill, plus Splitblade with Earth +Sharpened Edges is able to do huge bleed stacks real quick.

Also instead of Air on the SB, think about maybe trying Torment Sigil..Its one more condition to cover your other Conditions.

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Posted by: Terravos.4059

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If you’re swapping from Sic’EM to that (which is viable vs a Thief)

I’d trade Muddy Terrain for Sharpening Stones..5 Bleeds is pretty good, and it doesn’t have a cast time like Muddy Terrain

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Posted by: Terravos.4059

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Course if you really wanted to Cover Conditions with Shortbow Rpfohr, you could go that Vulnerability Sigil..it doesn’t have a cooldown like Sigil of Earth does either…So you could keep putting that on a person as well.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

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You cannot go over the top with condi cleansing in this game…..as a BM Bunker Ranger, i can apply everyone of my conditions pretty much every 10 seconds….which is pretty much all of them except torment and confusion.

As for giving up the Signet of the Wild…SoR is needed for fighting things like a Necromancer….if you don’t have it, you’ll probably die.

meh, necromancers are overrated. Even condition mancers are not THAT problematic, in WvW atleast.
Condition Bunker engies on the other hand, that IS just that problematic.

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Necromancers are not overrated..They’re very dangerous to fight

I actually find Condition Bunker Engineers far easier to fight then a Necromancer

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

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Necromancers are not overrated..They’re very dangerous to fight

I actually find Condition Bunker Engineers far easier to fight then a Necromancer

in PvP, yes, because of enclosed spaces and them marks being huge. But in WvW, nope.

EDIT: You need to differentiate between PvP and WvW.

When i see your posts about EB, it makes sense in s/tPvP but in WvW it is completely irrelevant both in roaming and zerging. There is simply no need to use it, unless you WANT to kill your pets (because condi damage and duration is more then twice as strong in WvW thanks to food and much higher gear stats).

And within the last two weeks, ive been venturing into tPvP with my guildmates, and yes in PvP, necros are beasts, but outside of it, they are a massive joke. Easy to kill, and pose little threat if you pay attention.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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Necros struggle with being slow as balls in WvW. I fight them all the time with zero condi removal when I forget to change to SoR.