The ranger that made celec D/D ele go WTF?
I eat cele D/D eles with my cele ranger
interesting build certainly worth playing around with
on a side not, why do people put dd celes on such a high pedestal, I get it in spvp but in wvw roaming they give me very little trouble on a few of the different builds that I run. though i don’t always get to kill them as they FGS and run away.
Some rangers know how to deal with them, mostly condi rangers. But, good D/D celec Eles are considered to be very problematic for most ranger builds. So, this build might help
I have a feeling that that Ele was simply a new player who did not really understand how to play an Ele or fight a Ranger. The build you are using is a variation of the old condition survival build but only worse because you can’t take EB and WS together anymore. Also, in no shape of form do you have a proper burst anymore in terms of existing burst now. Celestial elementalists can stack just as much might, have arguably more condition damage due to higher stacks of burning that can be maintained, have higher condition cleanse, healing and raw damage due to higher damage coefficients. Also they are faster due to permanent swiftness.
Hell, I made a build that does pretty in WvW or PvP vs normal players, but face someone from TCG on an Ele, see how little to no damage you do and then come back and say how Ranger is in a good place.
We are in a really really bad place compared to the other classes. We are really the bottom of the barrel now.
I have a feeling that that Ele was simply a new player who did not really understand how to play an Ele or fight a Ranger. The build you are using is a variation of the old condition survival build but only worse because you can’t take EB and WS together anymore. Also, in no shape of form do you have a proper burst anymore in terms of existing burst now. Celestial elementalists can stack just as much might, have arguably more condition damage due to higher stacks of burning that can be maintained, have higher condition cleanse, healing and raw damage due to higher damage coefficients. Also they are faster due to permanent swiftness.
Hell, I made a build that does pretty in WvW or PvP vs normal players, but face someone from TCG on an Ele, see how little to no damage you do and then come back and say how Ranger is in a good place.
We are in a really really bad place compared to the other classes. We are really the bottom of the barrel now.
Hi, the build is not my own, it belongs to "Tanbin " and from what I understand he’s a known ranger. The Ele he was fighting was a good and experienced D/D ele, you can read the discussion on the Ele forum.
Ranger is not made for might stacking , notice how A.net made that most of our might stacking go straight to pet or benefit pet much more than it benefits you. The reason? Ranger with full celec with full stacks of might for himself and for his benefits much more from might in terms of pure stats value compared to any other profession.
Don’t also forget that ranger base survival stats are much higher than the ele’s.
I have no problem with DD Celes on my Ranger at all. A well timed QZ’ed Opening Striked Rapid Fire/Point Blank shot when they are at like 50% health AFTER they’ve come out of Water Attunement will seal the deal. When I play my Cele I often fear Rangers more than Thieves….
d/d ele’s are a lot harder in sPvP than in WvW but either way it’s pretty impressive that he gave a cele so much of a hard time. hybrid is probably the best way to go against someone like that since you force them to use their heal/cleanse for either power dmg or condi dmg and then beat them with the other.
at least as far as sPvP is concerned i’m not sure how far that type of build would go against the insane zerk mesmers. might be a good matchup for burn guard tho….
ranger survival was nerfed a little in regards to grandmaster traits available. I used to run a varient of this build axe/dagger and sword/horn cele ranger.. it was very good sustain and damage. You can build yourself tankier with more high DPS pets like cats and birds with 25 stacks of might for damage. sustain was great against anything up to 1v3 unless you got I really good lockdown burst from like an engie/thief combo. I believe that Anet mostly broke the build with the new patch and not sure it can be ressurected as effectively, esp with off hand training gone. that being said i would put cele ranger over cele ele all day everyday
It’s Tanbin, of course he’s kicking kitten . I remember he used to preach to me about how good Aristocracy runes were. Glad to see he’s still using them.