Guild Wars 2

So I was thinking as I always do on my caffeinated drives of thought racing through my ever too cramped mind about the Elite Entangle for the rangers and through that the animation is too similar to the Warrior’s Stomp .

Soooo that got me thinking why is that the warrior skill is a blast finisher and the entangle is not? Yes, I concede that the skills serve 2 different purposes as one is more a hard CC skill with knockdowns and more damage, and the other is more soft CC intermixed with conditions. So that puts them on even ground again. Until the warrior skill adds the blast finisher which the ranger skill is not. (And of course other tidbits of skill facts that I did not mention for the brevity of the comparison).

Usually rangers are thought, up until the most recent patch, a more supportive role with traps and spirits to aid allies in the battle. However, the ranger is not; with it’s mass amounts of fields, able to blast them and thus relies on the other classes. (Yes we have ONE blast finisher like the mesmer and necro and probably other classes I missed and too lazy to think of)

If we were able to add a blast spec to entangle it would make the class more viable in team fights when other blast finishers are on cool down. Seeing as this skill is also an elite it should only make sense to have this a blast too since the warrior skill is a mere utility skill.

Now this is only speculation and I really would like to hear the opinions of other rangers and counter the points I made without saying that Arena Net is going to ignore this thread. Because if we keep this bumped and talk about this idea, we may find a change in the next coming patches. Either way, I am more interested to hear what others want from this elite.

My current build has two blast finishers, two leap finishers, and two projectile finisher skills.

That being said I would love it if Entangle became a blast finisher. I already run it, which means I’d be up to three blast finishers. My only regret is the lack of more fields.

Entangle already one of the strongest and most poular eliltes in the game, in the duling scene ppl are refering to it as “entanwin”. Entangle already have very strong synegie possibilitieswith SOTF and krait/lyssa runes. I dont think it should get buffed even more.

Back in the days ppl realy wanted blast on GS 2 (maul) or on our shouts(our weakest utility set of skills).
Almost sure druid will get some balst on stuff or on his new utilities.

^Rektangle.

/15charrs

Rektangle, even better ^^

Sounds like you’re saying rectangle though….

If they did make it a blast finisher I’d probably start running Healing Spring cus condi survival isn’t powerful enough lel.

If only there weren’t half a million ways to get out of it…

Yea, entangle is either hit or miss. Many classes have the ability to immediately break out of it or cure the immobilize.

Tbh, I often wonder if it were more balanced to just have the skill apply five seconds of immobilize on use instead of over time.

Gotejjeken.1267:

If only there weren’t half a million ways to get out of it…

Half million and one counting how many times I can get out of it with a simple heal with Healing Spring. And this comes back to the soft CC that entangle presents.

LughLongArm.5460:

in the duling scene … Entangle already have very strong synegie possibilitieswith SOTF and krait/lyssa runes. I dont think it should get buffed even more.

Dueling Scene yes because that is a one versus one situation where there are NO others to help buff yourself and help buff others. Elites are wayyy more broad spectrum than dueling. Even that aside, it would make the dueling mechanic even more interesting since that would put a strategy to stopping the entangle

Admittedly I ran krait on my condi bleed spec for tpvp but after awhile I gave up on letting bleed become my ONLY condition. No do I see most others use that for the conditions more so the meta is for them to keep people from dodge rolling to avoid their Rapid Fire.

Ehecatl.9172:

My current build has two blast finishers, two leap finishers, and two projectile finisher skills.

That being said I would love it if Entangle became a blast finisher. I already run it, which means I’d be up to three blast finishers. My only regret is the lack of more fields.

The drake blast finisher does not really count in my books seeing as you have no control over WHEN and where the drake does that attack. IF you got lucky enough or timed it well (which I do not time well in the midst of a battle) you might get the blast for the tail sweep. Meaning, I would want a more controllable blast.

If you swap to a drake while in combat, it uses its blast finisher immediately. Something to keep in mind when you have a drake on swap and you are standing in a field of some sort.

I’m the only one who likes entangle + Madking runes? ;-(

Justine.6351:

I’m the only one who likes entangle + Madking runes? ;-(

Krait is better with SB or A/D – S/T, condi builds, madking is better in LB power builds.

But ravens!

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

But ravens!

Hawks! Birds!
I sense a vid in the making with bird theme!

It would be good if they were actually ravens, but it is the exact skill, Hunter’s Call. Hits 3 targets in range. Pretty nice when you have Sharpened Edges and high crit chance too as they hit 17 times each.

Bird build haha

Justine.6351:

I’m the only one who likes entangle + Madking runes? ;-(

It’s gamebreaking for 1v1 duelling servers and useless in any other situation imo.

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

It would be good if they were actually ravens, but it is the exact skill, Hunter’s Call. Hits 3 targets in range. Pretty nice when you have Sharpened Edges and high crit chance too as they hit 17 times each.

Bird build haha

That no bird build without Call Owl and Become Raven ;-)

oh yeah haha, nice one Bird Build 2.0 heh

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

If you swap to a drake while in combat, it uses its blast finisher immediately. Something to keep in mind when you have a drake on swap and you are standing in a field of some sort.

Fair point, most times when I call out my drake, I use the F2 command because I typically need it more than the finisher. Still I cannot help but think that we need more control over the blast seeing as ANY factor can throw off a drake’s auto attack, one of which is using the F2 command. Others include the long CD of a pet’s being “dead” or defeated. Another would be any hard CC that interrupts the drake and starts the normal auto attack chain.

Personally I discount the drake as a finisher then because it is too uncontrollable but in perfect circumstances, the drake DOES make another blast.

Either way, I am interested to hear more arguments for/against the idea and if this IS a viable option to bring to Anet’s attention.

As long as entangle works on the grawl shaman … whatevs.