Torment runes on ranger [video]
The video is nice, but it’s not like your performance would be too different with or without the runes.
Basically you apply “3 bleeds” when you heal. Keeping 3 bleeds on your opponents (once you use the first heal as you don’t want to waste it at the start of the battle) is nice, but there are better rune setups IMO that would benefit you more.
The video is nice, but it’s not like your performance would be too different with or without the runes.
Basically you apply “3 bleeds” when you heal. Keeping 3 bleeds on your opponents (once you use the first heal as you don’t want to waste it at the start of the battle) is nice, but there are better rune setups IMO that would benefit you more.
If you are going to attempt to “correct” another, how about saying WHAT runes you would use and why.
You are either QQ’ing or you just don’t feel that the person who posted deserves to know your reasoning…???
Not keeping all IT jobs here is a major reason IT is so bad HERE. 33y IT 10y IT Security
I have the full tormenting runes on my necromancer’s condition build. I would never put them on anyone else.
The reason is quite simple, actually. The rune set gives a 45% increase to the duration of torment alone, which easily allows for a 100% duration increase with food and traits. This is a really good buff if you already have torment. This is the biggest reason why you would want to use those runes in the first place is if you have a character with torment, and you’d like to expand on their torment to be much longer, and also giving much more torment when you heal. Otherwise, it is a 6 rune investment to inflict the equivalent of 3 bleeds every 20 seconds, and that isn’t too stellar in itself. I mean, engineers dole that out every 4 seconds.
The whole “AoE torment on heal” thing is only so good in itself. The biggest risk in this is that, due to the extremely close proximity required for torment, that healing as an offensive maneuver will require you to belly up for bursts and interrupts in order to effectively use. You’re using your mobility and evasion for the majority of your defense, so bellying up like that will allow whomever you are fighting to whip out stuns then bash your brains in.
There are so many other things you could run that would be better than x6 tormenting. For example, you could run x3 Afflicted + x3 krait to get good condition damage and 30% bleed duration, and bleeds are a whole lot more important to a condi ranger’s damage. You can hybrid with x4 mad king runes and x2 krait/centaur runes for 40% bleed duration, 10% additional condi duration, and additional power alongside of that. You can use Runes of the Undead to get an additional 100 or so condition damage with rabid sets for the highest flat malice bonus of any build. You can use Balthazar, for haste at low health, longer burn duration, and an AoE burn when you heal. You can use Divinity to increase everything. You can use Earth for a protection proc and a magnetic shield proc. You can use just about anything that will contribute more than Tormenting.
The reason why I say that these runes only work on a necromancer is because every other class that gets torment benefits much more from the other new rune set, Perplexity. Mesmers already have a ton of confusion and have interrupts, thieves have limitless interrupts with an off-hand pistol, and warriors are stun locking people into oblivion now, and already have confusion in that same manner. Necros are the only class that has AoE torment regardless of build or skill choices, has low enough mobility that they aren’t bellying up when using a heal to inflict torment, and also has epidemic to spread that unique condition around more.
I don’t have opinions. I only have facts I can’t adequately prove.
The video is nice, but it’s not like your performance would be too different with or without the runes.
Basically you apply “3 bleeds” when you heal. Keeping 3 bleeds on your opponents (once you use the first heal as you don’t want to waste it at the start of the battle) is nice, but there are better rune setups IMO that would benefit you more.
If you are going to attempt to “correct” another, how about saying WHAT runes you would use and why.
You are either QQ’ing or you just don’t feel that the person who posted deserves to know your reasoning…???
Woah woah, why the hostility here? O.o
I wasn’t attemping to “correct him” as the build and video are nice. And it isn’t like I showed any reason to believe that I think I’m over him to not explain it or anything like that. In fact I told him why that rune set wasn’t making a big difference if you read that post. I wasn’t being prepotent here or QQing (why exactly would I QQ about this…? it isn’t like it negatively affects me at all, I don’t understand your logic for that), I just noted that the runes themselves weren’t a real difference maker in that video. His build and skills were making it. He could kill all those guys with a different runeset as the rune set wasn’t of a great help.
I already said why I though other rune set would be better (not one in particular, but a lot of them would be better for that kind of build, in fact what I said is that without a runeset at all his performance would be very similar, except maybe for a little bit of condition damage, but mostly won’t change):
That set simply increases torment duration by 45% and applies 2 torment when he heals. That set is useful on a Necro as the previous poster said, a Ranger could benefit more from something else.
Considering that’s all the torment he gets, and that 2 torment equals to 3 bleeds (not too much considering you’re using a whole runeset for those “3 bleeds”), there are multiple rune sets that are more viable, specially for a profession without natural access to torment.
I don’t know why you jumped on me like that. Having a bad day or something? :S
(edited by Lokheit.7943)
I can’t watch the video at work. But I imagine each tick of well procs a new torment?
I can’t watch the video at work. But I imagine each tick of well procs a new torment?
The rune has a 20 seconds cooldown. Even then it’s supposedly just on heal use like other runes, but with the cooldown it wouldn’t matter.
I can’t watch the video at work. But I imagine each tick of well procs a new torment?
The rune has a 20 seconds cooldown. Even then it’s supposedly just on heal use like other runes, but with the cooldown it wouldn’t matter.
Ahh
I haven’t looked at that one or the confusion runes but I’ve seen a thread for each now on the forums so curious how to use them.
Everytime healing well ticks I gain vigor though with vigorous renewel I believe. Will have to double check it when I get home from work this weekend. Figured each tick was a heal. Was tempted to try centaur runes.