Guild Wars 2

Thought you had enough with the lackluster patch notes? They’ve actually NERFED all traps to a 30sec cooldown, but haven’t changed tooltips (incorrectly show 20 and 25 secs) or added to patch notes.

If this is true (cannot play atm) it is highly disappointing and insane. Why not just delete this class entirely.

Oh goody! Our only good utility skills got nerfed!

Well at least all our utility skills are ‘balanced’ now… they all suck equally! Hooray!

If that’s true, that single nerf is 100x worse than any buffs we got.

Yeah, this is true. Just tested, every trap has 30 sec cooldown but tooltips are not changed so instead of getting serious buffs in this patch we are even more nurfed. Somebody at ANet really hates rangers.

Unspecified.9142:

Oh goody! Our only good utility skills got nerfed!

Well at least all our utility skills are ‘balanced’ now… they all suck equally! Hooray!

Hahaha This is getting surreal. Stop beating the ranger, he’s already dead.

lol, double cooldown on flame trap.

I’M DONE.

Oh that’s awesome, not only am I playing the most maligned of professions, but they nerfed my build?

Why are ANet so determined that I play a warrior?

It was animation fix guys. Just like the shortbow. And in a few days after they’re pushed into a corner, anet will finally admit that they were tired of people spamming traps. (gotta go after dem crafty bot farmers)

Holy kittensticks, this is no joke. My flame trap was nerfed.

I’m actually laughing out loud over how absurd this is.

Unspecified.9142:

Oh goody! Our only good utility skills got nerfed!

Well at least all our utility skills are ‘balanced’ now… they all suck equally! Hooray!

No. Survival skills are still useable.

Next patch, QZ now gives 4s swiftness instead of quickness, muddy terrain gives all enemies might, and lightning reflexes now stuns you as you go into a fetal position and cry pathetically while your pet runs around aimlessly in circles.

OMFG insane. I’m so glad I held back on levelling my ranger to enjoy those awesome balance adjustments.

I guess this also explains the 14/16 of the promised patch notes.

• All traps now have a 30 second CD.

One internet cookie to whoever finds the other missing patch note (probably also a nerf).

Just tested. Yup. My condition build just got destroyed.

Wha?!

Ugh, please let this be a mistake.

Seems that ANet’s new mantra is to lie their kitten off to everyone.

It’s clearly a bug. If every ranger reported this error in-game… they might replace our traps with witches cauldrons

It’s a bug that will take two years to fix at this pace.

=nerf

It has to be a bug because if I slot the “Trap Potency” trait, the tooltip reflects the 20% reduction but the actual cooldown is unaffected. Try it, you’ll see.

Has to be a bug. Please be a bug.

I’m pretty sure this was unintended since the skill descriptions haven’t been changed and trap potency also doesn’t work on them now.

Deft Dan.8016:

I’m pretty sure this was unintended since the skill descriptions haven’t been changed and trap potency also doesn’t work on them now.

Doesn’t matter if it was intended or not. We’re probably stuck with it for the next month or more.

It’s also becoming pretty common to see patch notes that say “Tooltip changed to correctly reflect ___________”

Funny how we get “unintended” nerfs, but no “intended” fixes.

This is actually good news. It sounds extremely likely that it’s a bug, which increase the chances of a dev visiting this forum to report this. It’s also possible that if something this huge got overlooked, there may have been other intended changes that weren’t implemented or reported. At the very least, they can’t entirely ignore us.

Unspecified.9142:

Deft Dan.8016:

I’m pretty sure this was unintended since the skill descriptions haven’t been changed and trap potency also doesn’t work on them now.

Doesn’t matter if it was intended or not. We’re probably stuck with it for the next month or more.

It’s also becoming pretty common to see patch notes that say “Tooltip changed to correctly reflect ___________”

It does matter because minor patches and hotfixes can come along much more often than big patches such as this one. I understand that tooltips aren’t always accurate, however, the tooltips weren’t even touched in this case, they’re exactly the same as they were before.

Dev visited, wrote damage control bs, and left.

TravisTrout.6803:

It has to be a bug because if I slot the “Trap Potency” trait, the tooltip reflects the 20% reduction but the actual cooldown is unaffected. Try it, you’ll see.

Has to be a bug. Please be a bug.

The tool-tips will be updated in 3 weeks. They didn’t have enough time to test the tool-tip changes with this patch.

Yea this better be fixed by the end of the night. This is a huge nerf to anyone who uses traps, especially flame. Seriously this is like our best utilities besides QZ.

Maybe you want to have a look at here? https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/MASSIVE-Ranger-trap-BUG/first#post746663

At least frost trap now has a shorter cd…

nice, thanks for the update

Sure you have the time to “test” it?

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Hey all, we are aware of the bug with Ranger traps. A fix is slated for to take care of this bug tonight.

So are you guys starting to call “class balance mistakes” “bugs” now? Interesting way of putting it…

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Hey all, we are aware of the bug with Ranger traps. A fix is slated for to take care of this bug tonight.

Excellent. I knew it couldn’t have been intentional…

secretly lets out a sigh of relief

So much fore “but we have to test all these changes”. Hypocrits.

Zaith.9132:

Sure you have the time to “test” it?

I lol’d

/morechars

I will not hold my breath on this one, we still don’t know how the “bug fix” is going to be implemented.

Perhaps the CD nerf has just been deemed too big due to community backlash (and might not return to the original) or SB nerf story will repeat itself.

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Hey all, we are aware of the bug with Ranger traps. A fix is slated for to take care of this bug tonight.

Bugfix patch:

• Rangers are now no longer available in class selection menu

Division.9618:

Unspecified.9142:

Oh goody! Our only good utility skills got nerfed!

Well at least all our utility skills are ‘balanced’ now… they all suck equally! Hooray!

No. Survival skills are still useable.

Next patch, QZ now gives 4s swiftness instead of quickness, muddy terrain gives all enemies might, and lightning reflexes now stuns you as you go into a fetal position and cry pathetically while your pet runs around aimlessly in circles.

I swear that i laughed out loud while reading this, honestly.

Eleazyair.5716:

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Hey all, we are aware of the bug with Ranger traps. A fix is slated for to take care of this bug tonight.

So are you guys starting to call “class balance mistakes” “bugs” now? Interesting way of putting it…

Let’s see:

It wasn’t announced.
The tooltip doesn’t reflect it.
They clearly stated it was unintentional and intend to fix it TONIGHT.

It’s a bug.

aotd.4098:

Mark Katzbach.9084:

Hey all, we are aware of the bug with Ranger traps. A fix is slated for to take care of this bug tonight.

Bugfix patch:

• Rangers are now no longer available in class selection menu

All hail the king!

People rage and whine about a “stealth nerf” without even pausing to think for a moment it might be a bug, it’s then confirmed as a bug that will be fixed the same night that it’s introduced, and people respond with yet more irrational insults. You just refuse to give ArenaNet even a drop of respect, don’t you?

Stop behaving like irrational brats just because you didn’t get every single buff you dreamed of in one patch. ArenaNet doesn’t deserve this kind of grief, regardless of what you all think.

and customers deserve to be lied to?

and customers deserve to be lied to?

Stormleaf.1769:

People rage and whine about a “stealth nerf” without even pausing to think for a moment it might be a bug, it’s then confirmed as a bug that will be fixed the same night that it’s introduced, and people respond with yet more irrational insults. You just refuse to give ArenaNet even a drop of respect, don’t you?

Stop behaving like irrational brats just because you didn’t get every single buff you dreamed of in one patch. ArenaNet doesn’t deserve this kind of grief, regardless of what you all think.

I’ll reserve judgement when I see that the bug fix patch notes don’t read:

Fixed tooltip on traps to match new cooldowns

and customers deserve to be lied to?

kaltastic.3146:

Stormleaf.1769:

People rage and whine about a “stealth nerf” without even pausing to think for a moment it might be a bug, it’s then confirmed as a bug that will be fixed the same night that it’s introduced, and people respond with yet more irrational insults. You just refuse to give ArenaNet even a drop of respect, don’t you?

Stop behaving like irrational brats just because you didn’t get every single buff you dreamed of in one patch. ArenaNet doesn’t deserve this kind of grief, regardless of what you all think.

I’ll reserve judgement when I see that the bug fix patch notes don’t read:

Fixed tooltip on traps to match new cooldowns

Exactly what i was thinking, extremely vague response.

xLiveLucidx.5071:

and customers deserve to be lied to?

Customers that explode with childish tantrums like this when things don’t go entirely their way? Yeah, I’m fine with them being lied to.

This is an MMO, nothing is set in stone. Things can come up, delays can happen. Behavior like what I’ve seen tonight is an absurd overreaction.

Aether McLoud.1975:

So much fore “but we have to test all these changes”. Hypocrits.

Right? Who is testing this? I’m pretty confident nobody at Anet plays a Ranger. Because they would have noticed the ONLY viable build had a pretty big bug. It boggles the mind. And if there IS a guy playing/testing ranger, I would be happy to give him a few pointers as to what to look for.

On a slightly related topic, what do infractions mean?

On a very off topic thought, SWTOR went F2P today, right? Guess I’ll check out my Sage healer…

Stormleaf, I sincerely hope you never work in customer service.