Guild Wars 2

This desicion is unaceptable,

i am a wvw player i dont want to waste my time in pve watching ppl failing the event again and again and beeing forced to wait and search for a map where an organized party is killing the boss so i can go and get my pet.

Why are u forcing me to play an event over and over again, just to get my pet, this is not nice to your Rangers, and sorry but i am raging right now.

today from 6 am until 2 pm i was trying to get my tiger and e v, but nope no one no map no organisation could do it.

II want to go and play wvw not camp a pve map for an event i dont like to get acces to my class proffesion skills.

No other klass has to do that kind of thing.

Pooor design and a good reason to give a bad review on metacritics

Not even 2 hours, it can go over 3 hours. They need to make the meta event way shorter and easier, because it will become a Triple Worm if they keep like that : Nobody will do it but organized guilds. I got the Electric Wyvern, but didn’t have time to find the Juvenile Tiger. Just gliding after the fight eats you so much time.

And yes, no other class have to do it. That’s my biggest issue.

I totally agree.

I agree 100%.

Please move the electric wyvern & tiger pets to places that aren’t dependent upon an event chain being completed.

I more than agree that having those pets in one area that’s gated behind a ridiculously long meta event is ridiculous. And so far I’ve only been in one map that actually finished the event but ended up bugging at the end so I still didn’t get my pets.

This is especially unfair to rangers because no other class has to go out and collect their class mechanic, let alone have it be gated behind a two hour event that requires 100 people to coordinate.

Pet selection makes or breaks ranger. There is a world of difference between a ranger who has a smokescale and one who doesn’t. Wvw players also need fair accessibility to pets.

It is important to make these pets accessible to every ranger, Prestige pets like the Hall of Monument pets that mimic easy to obtain existing pets are fine to lock behind hard content or masteries.

People arguing against this obviously are not Rangers. Just ask yourself how many people have a tiger or electric? Pretty much no one.

The electric is so silly because it’s a pvp centric pet content walled behind a 200 man pve raid. I’m confident this will be fixed soon.

lordhelmos.7623:

This is especially unfair to rangers because no other class has to go out and collect their class mechanic, let alone have it be gated behind a two hour event that requires 100 people to coordinate.

This. So much this.

I totally do not agree. if you can’t even put in 3 hours, then maybe a MMO is the wrong game for you.

I could already name you one german speaking guild who will run these meta events regularely, as they do with the triple wurm.
I’m pretty sure that there are other guilds out there who do the same. And I really don’t thin that anyone of you doesn’t hve the time to play for 3 hours on weekends or so.

Wuselknusel.4082:

I totally do not agree. if you can’t even put in 3 hours, then maybe a MMO is the wrong game for you.

I could already name you one german speaking guild who will run these meta events regularely, as they do with the triple wurm.
I’m pretty sure that there are other guilds out there who do the same. And I really don’t thin that anyone of you doesn’t hve the time to play for 3 hours on weekends or so.

This is supposed to be a casual MMO, though.

If you’re saying all MMOs should be totally hardcore and grindy/challenging and none should be casual, that is your opinion.

But it doesn’t alter the fact that this particular MMO was marketed on the basis of being non-grindy.

Or the fact that no other class is being asked to do anything like this for their class mechanics.

Thought we were all dependant on the chains finishing. There is a hp right in the first map that you have to take the pact chopper to the canopy to get. There is one in the south of the city in the 2nd map that you need to wait out the event for/or is locked behind a mastery gate.

To the victors go the spoils. Our pets are no different.

The problem is not 1 time for 3 hours, it’s multiple times for 3 hours, only to more than likely fail in the end. Even after you succeed, you have a VERY limited amount of time to find 2 pets before you’re booted back to the beginning.

Hero Points =/= Class Mechanics.

This is the map where the difficulty should be at its highest, just because you want to make a proud animal a slave doesn’t mean it should be easier to do so.

Go tigers!

DresdenAllblack.1249:

Thought we were all dependant on the chains finishing. There is a hp right in the first map that you have to take the pact chopper to the canopy to get. There is one in the south of the city in the 2nd map that you need to wait out the event for/or is locked behind a mastery gate.

To the victors go the spoils. Our pets are no different.

They ARE different.

That is the entire point.

They are part of our class mechanics.

If these were just unique-skinned pets that shared their F2 abilities with existing pets, then you might (and I stress might) have some sort of point.

But, they are not.

Danariel.4675:

The problem is not 1 time for 3 hours, it’s multiple times for 3 hours, only to more than likely fail in the end. Even after you succeed, you have a VERY limited amount of time to find 2 pets before you’re booted back to the beginning.

Exactly.

Thank God I switched mains to Mesmer.

No one is making me do locked-out, timed jumping puzzles, for new mechanics, on that, please note.

Not to mention that it’s just far less stressful, in general.

DresdenAllblack.1249:

This is the map where the difficulty should be at its highest, just because you want to make a proud animal a slave doesn’t mean it should be easier to do so.

Go tigers!

Firstly, I doubt you’re even a Ranger, talking like that.

Secondly, most Rangers do not consider their pets to be slaves.

They consider them to be companions.

We Charm them – we don’t beat them into submission.

I think you must be thinking of minions?

Rangers don’t have minions.

Danariel.4675:

The problem is not 1 time for 3 hours, it’s multiple times for 3 hours, only to more than likely fail in the end. Even after you succeed, you have a VERY limited amount of time to find 2 pets before you’re booted back to the beginning.

Also, and I might be mistaken, there’s a limited number of juveniles to tame? When I tamed my smokescale it actually de-popped it from the map and there were only 2 others there to be tamed, no idea if that means only X amount are tamable at a time though.

I totally agree though having two pets (really any of the pets) behind completing some meta events is just silly. No other class has a key component of their mechanics locked away. By all means make us explore for them like we had to in vanilla but do not put them behind the meta events, only available at certain times for a limited time.

That’s not fun, that’s tedious.

To all the people saying “you only need to put in a couple hours” you are wrong. if the event is guaranteed to succeed then it would be fine. But the ability for you to get part of your class mechanic is dependent on whether 100 other people also try as hard as you. What other people do should not effect obtaining part of your class mechanic. Imagine if there was a mesmer shatter skill, necro minion, tool belt skill, ect. that you could only get if 100 people completed an event chain together. I am in favor of challenges, but this is one thing that is out of the ranger’s hands that should not be.

Ok then follow this logic. As an elementalist you can’t get fiery greatsword until you kill the temple of Balthazar boss at the end of the meta event causing 20 swords to drop that can only be claimed by 1 ele each.

A neceo cannot use reaper shroud unless they beat Liadri and steal her power.

Thief can vault until beating the new trolls revenge jumping puzzle in LA to learn how to jump long distances.

Let me ask you, do these sound like smart ideas?

Now go play a ranger and finish your pet collection. Let me know how that works out for you.

Icantthinkofaname.7163:

To all the people saying “you only need to put in a couple hours” you are wrong. if the event is guaranteed to succeed then it would be fine. But the ability for you to get part of your class mechanic is dependent on whether 100 other people also try as hard as you. What other people do should not effect obtaining part of your class mechanic. Imagine if there was a mesmer shatter skill, necro minion, tool belt skill, ect. that you could only get if 100 people completed an event chain together. I am in favor of challenges, but this is one thing that is out of the ranger’s hands that should not be.

Agreed.

And also, people are just farming the event chain there now & letting it fail.

Tigaseye.2047:

Wuselknusel.4082:

I totally do not agree. if you can’t even put in 3 hours, then maybe a MMO is the wrong game for you.

I could already name you one german speaking guild who will run these meta events regularely, as they do with the triple wurm.
I’m pretty sure that there are other guilds out there who do the same. And I really don’t thin that anyone of you doesn’t hve the time to play for 3 hours on weekends or so.

This is supposed to be a casual MMO, though.

If you’re saying all MMOs should be totally hardcore and grindy/challenging and none should be casual, that is your opinion.

But it doesn’t alter the fact that this particular MMO was marketed on the basis of being non-grindy.

Or the fact that no other class is being asked to do anything like this for their class mechanics.

And HoT is supposed to be not-so-casual. Also, if you’re calling 3 hours “totally hardcore” you’re making a fool out of yourself.

And please look up the definition of grind. Many people like you are confusing this term a lot nowadays.

In guild wars 1 there was a pet that was only available after you completed the story of one of the expansions. There are other pets in this game that require you to be a high level in hall of monuments.
For Christ’s sake, some things are supposed to be hard. You are supposed to have to put in effort to get them. That’s what makes showing them off worth it. What’s next, are you going to ask for free legendary weapons?

Darklight.5487:

This desicion is unaceptable,

i am a wvw player i dont want to waste my time in pve watching ppl failing the event again and again and beeing forced to wait and search for a map where an organized party is killing the boss so i can go and get my pet.

Why are u forcing me to play an event over and over again, just to get my pet, this is not nice to your Rangers, and sorry but i am raging right now.

today from 6 am until 2 pm i was trying to get my tiger and e v, but nope no one no map no organisation could do it.

II want to go and play wvw not camp a pve map for an event i dont like to get acces to my class proffesion skills.

No other klass has to do that kind of thing.

Pooor design and a good reason to give a bad review on metacritics

u guys make me think that the 400 HP grind was even better than this

Poke Bird.5847:

u guys make me think that the 400 HP grind was even better than this

It is. I can at least get 400 hp on my own. I can’t herd 100 people to complete dragon stand just to open a 15 min window that allows me to get one of the two pets -which also requires additional masteries to get.

God forbid I DC or the boss 1% hp glitches out at the end. I would probably just uninstall.

There is nothing more rage inducing to a ranger main. I Just sit there thinking how many wvw rezzes I could have interrupted with the Lightning charge I’ll never have until they fix this

I disagree with this thread. This reminds me of GW1 where pets were even harder to get. This is something I was hoping Anet would do. Make it feel rewarded to actually tame a pet. Not just go to some ordinary area and press the F key.

You only have to tame it once to have it forever. Stop being so godkitten lazy that you aren’t able to get the exact specific pet you want by simply clicking on a waypoint. I don’t care if all you do is WvW or PvP. You can set some time over to accomplish this one time thing.

This is a prime example of people destroying aspects of a video game because they’re too lazy and entitled.

Wuselknusel.4082:

And HoT is supposed to be not-so-casual.

Says who?

Also, if you’re calling 3 hours “totally hardcore” you’re making a fool out of yourself.

And please look up the definition of grind. Many people like you are confusing this term a lot nowadays.

As others have said, it’s probably not just 3 hours.

It’s potentially many, many, 3 hour periods end-to-end, plus a frustrating, limited time jumping puzzle (which you have to get right quickly, or be kicked out of), plus the distinct possibility that there are not even any juvenile tigers there, when you have done all that, as you are competing for each one, with other Rangers.

Not that any of that makes much difference.

The point is, they are gating our class mechanics behind content that may well have nothing to do with what we enjoy doing, in-game and they are NOT doing that to any other class.

We can keep arguing, here, but it changes nothing.

Nick.9572:

In guild wars 1 there was a pet that was only available after you completed the story of one of the expansions. There are other pets in this game that require you to be a high level in hall of monuments.
For Christ’s sake, some things are supposed to be hard. You are supposed to have to put in effort to get them. That’s what makes showing them off worth it. What’s next, are you going to ask for free legendary weapons?

Darklight.5487:

This desicion is unaceptable,

i am a wvw player i dont want to waste my time in pve watching ppl failing the event again and again and beeing forced to wait and search for a map where an organized party is killing the boss so i can go and get my pet.

Why are u forcing me to play an event over and over again, just to get my pet, this is not nice to your Rangers, and sorry but i am raging right now.

today from 6 am until 2 pm i was trying to get my tiger and e v, but nope no one no map no organisation could do it.

II want to go and play wvw not camp a pve map for an event i dont like to get acces to my class proffesion skills.

No other klass has to do that kind of thing.

Pooor design and a good reason to give a bad review on metacritics

agree 100% some things are supposed to be hard to get. One of the greatest things I remember when playing WoW as a hunter where the epic hunts for rare pets that had unique abilities and skins.

There isn’t a single pet in this game that we can’t do without, there’s always an easier “version” of the same pet. If you don’t want to put in the time to get the hard to find ones then don’t.

So you are stating that you CANNOT play this game unless you ‘charm’ one of the five new pets?

Take a jungle stalker and give might to the players around you, they’ll thank you more for it than a dragon that thinks its a minotaur or a turtle that shoots snow cones.

But wait, keeping the stalker alive is really tough too. I guess we’re back at square one.

Tigaseye.2047:

Wuselknusel.4082:

And HoT is supposed to be not-so-casual.

Says who?

Also, if you’re calling 3 hours “totally hardcore” you’re making a fool out of yourself.

And please look up the definition of grind. Many people like you are confusing this term a lot nowadays.

As others have said, it’s probably not just 3 hours.

It’s potentially many, many, 3 hour periods end-to-end, plus a frustrating, limited time jumping puzzle (which you have to get right quickly, or be kicked out of), plus the distinct possibility that there are not even any juvenile tigers there, when you have done all that, as you are competing for each one, with other Rangers.

Not that any of that makes much difference.

The point is, they are gating our class mechanics behind content that may well have nothing to do with what we enjoy doing, in-game and they are NOT doing that to any other class.

We can keep arguing, here, but it changes nothing.

I’m sure the pets will be moved, just a matter of time. This whole expac exuded the feeling of rushed and dev panic. The pets being where they are was probably the result of a panicked dev dragging and dropping objects into the map with the world builder while the final code was being compiled and boxed at 2 am the day before release.

He’s probably reading this going, God I wish I had more time

Prophet.1584:

Nick.9572:

In guild wars 1 there was a pet that was only available after you completed the story of one of the expansions. There are other pets in this game that require you to be a high level in hall of monuments.
For Christ’s sake, some things are supposed to be hard. You are supposed to have to put in effort to get them. That’s what makes showing them off worth it. What’s next, are you going to ask for free legendary weapons?

Darklight.5487:

This desicion is unaceptable,

i am a wvw player i dont want to waste my time in pve watching ppl failing the event again and again and beeing forced to wait and search for a map where an organized party is killing the boss so i can go and get my pet.

Why are u forcing me to play an event over and over again, just to get my pet, this is not nice to your Rangers, and sorry but i am raging right now.

today from 6 am until 2 pm i was trying to get my tiger and e v, but nope no one no map no organisation could do it.

II want to go and play wvw not camp a pve map for an event i dont like to get acces to my class proffesion skills.

No other klass has to do that kind of thing.

Pooor design and a good reason to give a bad review on metacritics

agree 100% some things are supposed to be hard to get. One of the greatest things I remember when playing WoW as a hunter where the epic hunts for rare pets that had unique abilities and skins.

There isn’t a single pet in this game that we can’t do without, there’s always an easier “version” of the same pet. If you don’t want to put in the time to get the hard to find ones then don’t.

That’s simply not true.

These pets have unique abilities.

Now, I’m sure we could all argue, all day long, about what people can and can’t “do without” in games, but it is totally irrelevant.

Because no other class is being faced with the choice of having to do something like this, or “do without”.

That is the point.

Also, the rare pets in WoW (apart from the SBs) don’t have unique abilities; just unique skins/colours (and sometimes, not even that…).

Plus, all you have to do is wait at their (easily accessible) spawn location.

They did try adding invisible rares, with some sort of footprint hunt, in MoP and virtually nobody bothered.

lordhelmos.7623:

I’m sure the pets will be moved, just a matter of time. This whole expac exuded the feeling of rushed and dev panic. The pets being where they are was probably the result of a panicked dev dragging and dropping objects into the map with the world builder while the final code was being compiled and boxed at 2 am the day before release.

He’s probably reading this going, God I wish I had more time

I hope you’re right.

Also, the people saying “but gw1 pets!”, gw2 is a completely different game. Pets aren’t a privileged, special unlock-able, or cosmetic in gw2. They are a core class mechanic.

Oh, because completing one event is such a privilege. “I can’t believe how few people are able to accomplish such a monumental task while the rest of us rebel in their accomplishments. I feel so helpless.”

Stop making me puke.

If you don’t want the pet.. don’t get it.

I only dislike stuff like this if it has a high chance to fail if you put in a lot of time. I think it’s more than fine to put in 3h, if you know that by the end you’ll have your shot at a pet. but regardless that’s personal opinion and i’m pretty ok with things, except…

Over time these types of events tend to fail more and more because less people need them. That means it will get harder and harder for alts to get access to the pet. That’s my one sad about long group chains.

Nick.9572:

In guild wars 1 there was a pet that was only available after you completed the story of one of the expansions. There are other pets in this game that require you to be a high level in hall of monuments.
For Christ’s sake, some things are supposed to be hard. You are supposed to have to put in effort to get them. That’s what makes showing them off worth it. What’s next, are you going to ask for free legendary weapons?

Yeah right, so why shoud we have to hope that a megaevent with hundreds of people succeed to have access to a pet, and not by completing the story like they did with the phoenix?

The two pets in this game that “that require you to be a high level in hall of monuments” are simply two skins for other pets (raven and spider) that you can obtain in the world, thay DON’T have any particular skill, so you don’t need them at all if you don’t want them.

Things are supposed to be hard? I don’t have any problem if some pet appears after a particular event, like smokescale, but doing that with a huge event like that is simply STUPID, like your comment about free legendaries. Weapons and armors ARE something you have to work for, not a pet that’s part of the ranger’s mechanic. Like someone said before, we’re the only class facing this problem. And if you like things to be hard, why don’t you ask for elite skills and traits to be obtainable only after defeating particular world bosses or events, like in GW1 when you had to search for them all over the world?

I don’t mind playing for 3 hours to get a pet. Let me play the way I enjoy for however long and get the pet.

This hanging out waiting for the stars to align so I can end up on a map where people are organized and there’s enough people so I can spend several hours doing something I don’t enjoy with a small chance of having a few minutes to grab a pet… Not cool.

There are no pets which require a large amount of player kills or time spent in WvW (which I wouldn’t mind, but obviously PvE people would hate)… so there shouldn’t be any pets that force me to play PvE meta events that I really don’t enjoy.

I’ve cycled through about a dozen instances of the zone today. Guess how many where actually attempting to complete the event? None. Even if they were…the chance of success is probably pretty low. This sucks.

GW2 isn’t just PvE, it isn’t just WvW, and it isn’t just PvP, regardless of you or anyone else thinking that. You shouldn’t be able to ignore over two-thirds of the game and still get everything you want.

Tigaseye.2047:

Says who?

Everyone? Did you live under a rock for the last 6 months?

As others have said, it’s probably not just 3 hours.

It’s potentially many, many, 3 hour periods end-to-end, plus a frustrating, limited time jumping puzzle (which you have to get right quickly, or be kicked out of), plus the distinct possibility that there are not even any juvenile tigers there, when you have done all that, as you are competing for each one, with other Rangers.

Not that any of that makes much difference.

The point is, they are gating our class mechanics behind content that may well have nothing to do with what we enjoy doing, in-game and they are NOT doing that to any other class.

We can keep arguing, here, but it changes nothing.

It may take you much more than 3 hours, if you don’t learn. As I said already, I know already one german guild who will be doing this meta event consistently and without failure. So there is already one guaranteed window for you to get your pet.

And you certainly didn’t complain about having to find all the other pets. And your profession mechanic isn’t locked off, so stop exaggerating.

Hammerguard.9834:

GW2 isn’t just PvE, it isn’t just WvW, and it isn’t just PvP, regardless of you or anyone else thinking that. You shouldn’t be able to ignore over two-thirds of the game and still get everything you want.

Okay. Sounds good. So when they add the class mechanics that require everyone to play WvW for many hours in a highly organized and successful way, then I’ll accept these pet’s locations as being perfectly appropriate. Until then, I think these pets are badly placed.

You know, sort of like world completion used to be, where you had to explore the WvW zones, too…and people complained about it so loudly that they removed world completion from WvW? Oh yeah, that happened.

I don’t ignore 2/3 of the game. I just like PvE on my own terms. Same as anyone who plays the game.

Fozzik.1742:

I just like PvE on my own terms.

This never changed. The pets aren’t mandatory for anything. When you’re ready to get it, get it.

Icantthinkofaname.7163:

Also, the people saying “but gw1 pets!”, gw2 is a completely different game. Pets aren’t a privileged, special unlock-able, or cosmetic in gw2. They are a core class mechanic.

And you get one free with you create your character. And you can get another in a noob zone like Queensdale.
No other class got something brand new in the expansion outside of the elite. It’s a special add on for rangers only and you are complaining about it?

shalywen.9548:

Nick.9572:

In guild wars 1 there was a pet that was only available after you completed the story of one of the expansions. There are other pets in this game that require you to be a high level in hall of monuments.
For Christ’s sake, some things are supposed to be hard. You are supposed to have to put in effort to get them. That’s what makes showing them off worth it. What’s next, are you going to ask for free legendary weapons?

Yeah right, so why shoud we have to hope that a megaevent with hundreds of people succeed to have access to a pet, and not by completing the story like they did with the phoenix?

The two pets in this game that “that require you to be a high level in hall of monuments” are simply two skins for other pets (raven and spider) that you can obtain in the world, thay DON’T have any particular skill, so you don’t need them at all if you don’t want them.

Things are supposed to be hard? I don’t have any problem if some pet appears after a particular event, like smokescale, but doing that with a huge event like that is simply STUPID, like your comment about free legendaries. Weapons and armors ARE something you have to work for, not a pet that’s part of the ranger’s mechanic. Like someone said before, we’re the only class facing this problem. And if you like things to be hard, why don’t you ask for elite skills and traits to be obtainable only after defeating particular world bosses or events, like in GW1 when you had to search for them all over the world?

Actually at one point traits were like that. But too many people complained that it was too hard so they simplified it.

But if you are having trouble finding a good map to get the brand new extra addition to your class mechanic that no other class got (outside of going to their elite specialization), I have a solution for you. Press the ‘y’ button. It’s the one that’s between the ‘u’ and the ‘t’. Now find the tab that says “Looking for a group”. Use that to find a group in an organized map and taxi in.

See? Like magic!

GW1 pets were cosmetic skins, you can’t say this is the same thing as having to work for a pet skin. This is locking an ability behind a PvE grind that relies on having a large coordinated group to do it (and not purposefully fail it to farm the event).

There are also people that bought this game solely for the RvR. No other profession is forced into PvE to have full access to their profession mechanic.

The best solution is to unlock pets in WvW the same way they are in PvP.

I wouldn’t complain if, ya know, pets we able to be stowed, but that’s not the case… Pretty silly thing to do to Rangers.

I disagree. Gw1 and WoW has had hard to get / challenging pet tames. Before HoT, pets were mindlessly easy to get to the point that I wasn’t even interested in collecting them.

Challenging to get pets is only a new thing as far as Gw2 goes, not MMOs. It makes pet collections interesting.

HoT in general introduced harder pets, 2 are just real hard to get. Even Smokescale is moderate.

Personally I blame the Bets Testers who thought this was a great idea.
Do any other class have part of their basic game mechanics behind 2hr + events (which can fail depending on time you are on) and be limited as well?

What makes this worse is the map is locked. I went in and killed Mordremoth with guild members, but the client crashed shortly after the cinematic when I was trying to fly to the spot with the wyvern. When I logged back in, I was trapped on a different, LOCKED map, and it wouldn’t let me rejoin my guild members. I missed out on the treasure chest AND the pet.

This makes me very upset. I wouldn’t mind missing out on the treasure as much as if I could only have the pet. >:(

So a guildie of mine told me that both the tiger and the lightning wyvern are behind that 2hr event. If so that is some serious BS in my opinion. We should be able to get all the new pets by taming them out in the wild; not locked to a brief time period behind some stupid meta-events.

Does some ANet dev take pleasure in harassing rangers every chance they get or something? Heck, just now our Rune of the Trapper was also nerfed by 33%. And the reason for the nerf? Ghost Thief.

Forcing people to play a singular way to finish their profession is only a good idea to the people who happen to enjoy that way of playing.

If it happens to be your preferred play style…you white knight their awesome game design and give everyone else crap for not be willing to take on a “challenge”.

If it is not your preferred play style, it sucks…because games aren’t fun when you are forced to play a way you don’t enjoy for a significant amount of time just to finish your profession.

Again, why did they remove map completion from WvW? Because it wasn’t “fair” to you PvE types to make you run around a PvP map. Remember? This situation is sort of similar…except that instead of map completion, this is having all the tools available to your profession in order to play it the way you want.

I say put the pets on a vendor in WvW for 5k badges. Put them at the end of a PvP reward track. AND leave them behind the map event. Then…everyone has a “challenge” that they can enjoy while getting their pet.

Gonna add my vote, totally agree with the OP, stupid decision to say the least.

If Guild Wars is all about fun, why take the fun away, or make nearly impossible to reach? People are failing events all the time to get more loot, so if they fail the event intentionally, how in God’s name are we ever supposed to get those pets?!

Puck.9612:

GW1 pets were cosmetic skins…

Except for the Roller Beetle, its tons better than any other pet

Heimskarl Ashfiend.9582:

Puck.9612:

GW1 pets were cosmetic skins…

Except for the Roller Beetle, its tons better than any other pet

And the bear, it’s tons worse than all the others.