Usually have no problems with Rangers...
Post your stats please.
Also, the ranger may have specced in pet dmg..because usually pets are ignored in sPvP.
Thats what im saying, i usually only get hit for about 500 – 800 (which you can see a few of) but tonight every ranger i faced was using pets to my bane. I never have problems with them before. Was curious if anyone else was having this problem tonight. Quite annoying being knocked around with arrows and also killed in a few seconds by rapid shot / pet damage. But meh, good for the Rangers I guess.
damage varies a lot by pet. Birds (not moas) hit very hard but seem pretty fragile. They also have high precision, and there is a trait to increase critical damage on pets by 30%. I’ve gotten ravens to crit around 3k. 4k is a bit high, but could be possible with the pets share boons trait and might stacking maybe, or if you have no toughness.
As for the fast stomps, it has to be quickness. Rangers have 2s quickness on pet swap that is often used for stomping. It only has to be up when they start the animation, and since it’s short it could easily be expired by the time you see they are fast stomping.
Thats what im saying, i usually only get hit for about 500 – 800 (which you can see a few of) but tonight every ranger i faced was using pets to my bane. I never have problems with them before. Was curious if anyone else was having this problem tonight. Quite annoying being knocked around with arrows and also killed in a few seconds by rapid shot / pet damage. But meh, good for the Rangers I guess.
Jon Peters is this you?
Ive seen a 6k number from my Jaguar.And many 4k
The thing is that the dmg is very good,and pets arent that bad to start with.
The problem starts when a thief is on me spamming HS and my pets does nothing,doesnt happens all the times but some times it happens.
Or i just jump from somewhere and my pet takes a long route all around the map to come where i am,so i have to waste a swap.
They need fix in the pathing and in their responce in attacking or returning to us
Honestly getting hit for 600-800 is normal if the ranger is using low DD pets, DD pets however can do a decent amount of damage (if they hit), even more if you trait for it and use certain buffs/signets.
DD pets hit harder than the ranger itself, but they hit less often (less attack speed, or not hitting at all if your target moves a lot), so these numbers are not crazy if they hit squishy builds.
The fast downing is due to quickness. Rangers have a trait that lets them get quickness on pet swap, its often used to finish quickly, but its only 2secs so maybe you didn’t notice the buff?
I’ve never seen my pets hit for that much in spvp though, even specced for damage, I’m envious.
And this is the problem with Ranger. Pets are calculated into our DPS as a class, that’s why we ourselves do low damage but in PvP and WvWvW, it’s our main complaint because our pets can’t contribute to the damage due to their inability to attack a moving target. I love my pet in PvE when it hold aggro because it can crit for that type of damage, which can be considered our “burst” damage but without aggro (like in Orr) it’s quite annoying.
During all those hits i was jumping / dodging and moving around. As an elementalist i cannot stand still for the life of me. I understand what a lot of you are talking about with Pet pathing as my Elementals also have the same problems. Please understand this is not a complain post, but was created to show Rangers that pets are not all that useless, There were 3 Rangers in this group of screens, and they all seemed to be using similar builds. This surprised me as they were not trying to kite me, but were more into keeping me CC’d while the pet owned me. I did hear “Sick Em” quite a bit throughout the matches now that I think about it.
During these matches when I managed to get close they would use sword/dagger and evade most of my burst / condition damage attacks. I was very impressed and raging a bit, Lol.
Anyways, I may take my level 4 ranger into the mists to test out some pet builds.
You were trolled by some beastmaster or BM rangers. Probably because you never fought BM rangers before you didn’t realize that you could have shut them all down with one meteor strike. Bird pets are really, really squishy.
Actually im dagger dagger ele, dropping 1 – 5k (churning earth) aoes on the pets. Didnt kill them.
Most likely a BM shenanigans build. All those numbers came from either a bird or a cat, the two highest damage pets. With Sic ’Em up and perhaps Signet of the Hunt, those numbers can easily be reached.
That’s about a normal for those pets honestly. The only one that is spec’d into BM from what I can tell is that 3+4k hits from the Raven, which is expected since they have the hardest hitting pet skills in our arsenal.
My dogs normal hits (when they actually hit) are around 1.4k on heavy armor golem (usually higher on players) in sPvP, and their cripple attack almost always hits for over 2k+. Considering they also have a KD, this is why I love them. Birds seem too fragile for my taste and lack utility—they are used completely for burst and nothing else really.
To answer your question, no they haven’t received a buff. Rangers are still very weak when you factor in pet pathing and unresponsiveness.