Guild Wars 2

Rather than being sensible and doing stuff for uni as my deadline is approaching, I ended up going through some footage from our last match up and made a video instead. Woo, procrastinators unite!

The 5 of you massacring that zerg was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a long time. They should all feel bad about themselves.

FrouFrou.4958:

Rather than being sensible and doing stuff for uni as my deadline is approaching, I ended up going through some footage from our last match up and made a video instead. Woo, procrastinators unite!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iayxZv1QZYw

i hope you realize you did little for your squad there, right? You were effectively carried by your group there, other than spotter i didn’t see much support there and camping staff is really not a good idea if you are not in the core group.

You spended most of the time running around hitting nothing and effectively not healing your group. With your 700-800 healing you should be able to stay more in combat instead running around all the time.

You survived because you were pewpewing from afar all the time and nobody give you any attention because you did no damage. The time you got some that thief left you with nothing.

Also in my experience augury rock has numbers but not really good players. Against Deso it would have fun to watch thou.

But guys, seriously, no more videos against wvw baddies please. Druid right now it’s not very interesting to watch as the class is very monotonous (laser laser heal#3 heal#4) as it doesn’t have much to offer other than laser and heal.

And get rid of the second signet. SoS is okeish as it has it’s uses but SoR is just too bad for the actual meta.

FrouFrou is one of the few people whose videos I actually enjoy. And SoR is one of the best skills in the entire game.

Fluffball.8307:

FrouFrou is one of the few people whose videos I actually enjoy. And SoR is one of the best skills in the entire game.

It’s fine you like his gameplay which doesn’t mean it’s fun or couldn’t\shouldn’t be better.

actually quickening zephyr or lighting reflexes are more useful than SoR and even have smaller CD when not traited.

SoR right now, with the condi meta, is simply a wasted slot. For stun breaks you have the two skills i gave you and those will not kill your pet instantly. And 1 condi cleanse every 10 seconds its of no help.

I can’t see why would you think SoR is of any good unless you think in terms of pvp where the amount of evens is ridiculously small. But his video is WvW and nobody with some experience uses that signet.

If you don’t personally use a build, weapon, or skill it’s garbage I’ve noticed. I roam with SoR because it’s an amazing skill. FrouFrou and I also both roam with double melee which is completely unviable in your eyes (although I think she hasn’t done that in a long time?)

Oh and I also use condi every now and then, which is also totally unviable garbage.

Edit: Oh and I forgot, I roam in berserker gear which is also unviable.

Fluffball.8307:

If you don’t personally use a build, weapon, or skill it’s garbage I’ve noticed. I roam with SoR because it’s an amazing skill. FrouFrou and I also both roam with double melee which is completely unviable in your eyes (although I think she hasn’t done that in a long time?)

Oh and I also use condi every now and then, which is also totally unviable garbage.

double melee= trash, from druid no so much i think.
condi=trash against any competent player. ofc you can have a lol from baddies.

you keep saying SoR is amazing still no reasons why. Maybe i missed a very important use?
Or its like the leather in the tp chant “economy is fine”

What even are the comments I’m reading…. sigh alright here it goes.

Druids outside of PvE use Celestial Avatar primarily as their own defensive tool, and because of Druid’s reliance on Celestial Form as a defensive mechanism, should be considered an off support (ideal compositions would have tempests run direct support alongside off supports and DPS). A Druid with their CAF on cooldown is a dead Druid, which is why Druids don’t get to direct support in competitive (not PvAI) environments, and which is why the utility bar and traits typically are built to maximize survival (and build synergy).

As gank, LB is the best weapon you can use in a communicative setting with it’s ability to reliably setup enemies for a team gank. It isn’t about the DPS, it’s about the utility. As such, Protect Me and SoR are the best tools that can be run in a group scenario, with an AoE stunbreak and full condi clear (pets don’t die if you swap them, and even if that isn’t an option, a dead pet is better than a dead teammate or a dead you). Any passive effects are just icing on the cake.

Other general info: staff autos do more damage the LB autos and can’t be reflected. Staff healing outside of 3 and it’s various uses aren’t reliable or dependable. Taking a trap or survival skill on your skillbar and replacing it with a shout/signet/glyph is, in almost any case, a build improvement.

Anyhow, good clips FrouFrou. Skirmishing isn’t my cup of tea but you make it work, so good to see. Glad you have a group you can enjoy the game with, my guild is bleeding players to RevO (for now).

Jcbroe you have the single best knowledge of druid and ranger in GW2 (other than perhaps me.)

jcbroe.4329:

…As such, Protect Me and SoR are the best tools that can be run in a group scenario, with an AoE stunbreak and full condi clear (pets don’t die if you swap them, and even if that isn’t an option, a dead pet is better than a dead teammate or a dead you). Any passive effects are just icing on the cake….

ok i see the circle jking..
ok let’s go for it then.

i don’t why you put those two skills together when they are completely different in form and uses. You funny…

talking about utility: Protect me is a shout that can benefit from the runes to cleanse a condition to your team, plus stun break for your team and has 30 seconds CD. And when traited is 24 seconds CD skill that also apply swiftness and regen. And also the taunt thing.
That is the definition of an good designed utility skill for the ranger.

SoR on the other side is a 60 seconds cd stun break that will transfer all the conditions from around you to you pet (yeh you only need a epi necro waiting for you.. epidemic all over and why not), and only will work if your pet is alive ( that’s important) and most probably wont as as soon as the aoes comes the pets instadie, even when they are in passive mode.. hence you only use this skill for its passive, one 1 condition cleanse every 10 seconds. Hence this signet and all others except SoS (and maybe in some weird build SoW) are a waste of slot. So when you need this skill it doesn’t work. Great choice you did there, you funny…

Using a glyph or SoR right now is a waste of slot, and that reflects greatly in his gameplay, that practically stays in the outside picking downed. Which last time i checked that was the role of the thieves. You mostly can’t see any green numbers, doing the avatar thing when the combat is finished and the others are running.

And Jcbroe dude, a druid can do much more while not in avatar and a good druid will be useful while surviving and supporting his team. Obviously not at the level of a 10k healing ventari rev as the druid is in a lamentable state after so many nerfs to the healing side but still can be much better than shown in the video.

The other things you said i don’t have an opinion as i didn’t find useful to know.

How are your pets dead? Serious question. I run with my guild in a frontline group and even in full squad vs full squad situations, you can keep your pet alive, engage it onto low enemies, and as long as you F3 pets back and swap the pets out as needed, they’re fine.

Even if that isn’t the case, you can keep your pet dead, wait for a teammates call out for condi cleanses, and then swap to the alive pet and full AoE condi cleanse. On top of it being a stunbreak. Regardless, in a best use case, you should always be aiming to SoR and then instantly pet swap. All of the positives, none of the negatives, and nothing can punish the tactic.

Oh, and that passive cleanse? Mathematically, losing 1 condi every 10 seconds affords some of the highest condi cleanse potential in the game (considering that shouts with trooper/soldier runes are only 1 every 20 seconds, 2 every 24 seconds, etc traited at minimum and you have to blow your whole utility bar just to compete).

Glyphs; AoE CC and displacement, stunbreak and interrupt or AoE stunbreak, damage boost or healing boost, AoE cripple/weakness or AoE big heal and condi cleanse.

Signet of the Hunt is the only relatively poor signet, otherwise you have passive damage resistance, active damage immunity. Passive condi cleanse, active stunbreak and AoE full cleanse, and passive healing/AF generation, active damage boost and stability.

On top of shouts, these are the best options for utilities and will continue to be the best options for utilities due to a combination of how bloated their functionality comparatively is and the synergy with the traits and traitlines the make the skills better.

I didn’t comment on this thread because of the gameplay, I commented because you suggested replacing one of the best utility skills in the game with a 30 second cooldown unremarkable stunbreak and a 50 second cooldown superspeed/quickness stunbreak whose risk reward is out of focus because its a skill you want to use both offensively and defensively to make the most out of it, but best case scenarios for that are fringe cases compared to the generalist use of any of the utilities I listed.

As a matter of fact, if you had said “you could run Guard over SoR with Trooper Runes” as your reasoning to your initial comment, I probably would’ve just watched the video and continued my ghosting status like I have been for awhile now.

You gave bad information and criticism, and you’re continued defense of your standpoint won’t change facts.

As of now, I’m no longer going to be looking or continuing to respond on this thread. If that makes you feel as though you’ve achieved some sort of victory or ground with your opinions, then by all means, I’m glad it helps you get through the day, because we all have our vices.

Sorry for a late reply lads, happy to see some discussion going on.

Fluff, I tried double melee few times after HoT landed and I also poked around with it during the pvp season 2 just for the sake of it (Nostalgia, really), but that combo doesn’t cut it anymore sadly. It’s lolsy for sure, but I can’t make it to work with a druid. Maybe it can be brought back to life with the next expansion and elite, fingers crossed. Also thank you for your kind words, much appreciated.

anduriell, thank you for your feedback. I’m sorry you didn’t find the video entertaining, I’m also terribly sorry that I cannot provide footage against Desolation as it is currently impossible for me to do so. It has been a long time since we were against them so recording any footage is a bit difficult. Last time was at the end of January I think? I’m hopping on in game when I happen to have time or when I’m procrastinating which also means I play which ever match up happens to be running, this time it was against AR and DL. I think you are being a bit unfair there tho, Baruch isn’t exactly known for having good players either, but I still enjoy those match ups nevertheless as there are more people on when I’m playing late in the evening. Each server has something to offer, just got to look at the bright side and enjoy the ride.

Either way, thank you for your advice. My playstyle may not be for you, but it allows me to lead, survive and support my party, which I think is more valuable to me than big numbers popping on my screen, I leave that to my group as their classes and builds can muster out more burst and oomph than I can as a druid anyway. However, I do switch to a DPS build if we have someone else to cover the heals, but real life is a cruel mistress and our other supports are not available that often anymore. Pew pewing from afar is not really that interesting, I agree with that, but as a leader it gives me a better view of what’s happening, it’s easier to call targets and downed, I can also easily see whether we should move out of the blob’s way (Or splat gracefully, if I’m not paying attention).

jcbroe, I indeed picked SoR for the reasons you mentioned, it has it’s ups but also downs. I have to admit I haven’t exactly mastered the pet swap and SoR yet, my mistake is that I waste it while my Bristleback is too far out. Shame on me, I know, but I’m working on it. I agree with andull that it has one really huge disadvantage, I have gotten hit by several epidemics thanks to my pet which is frustrating, but I have to work with what we have and what I can fit into my build. Or to be honest, it really comes down to what kind of build I can put together without doing any pve :x I’m glad I have my guild, they are all solid lunatics and fun to play with, but even so we are slowly losing players to real life. Being a grown up is so lame :< Hold on to your friends, don’t lose touch with them!

FrouFrou.4958:

Fluff, I tried double melee few times after HoT landed and I also poked around with it during the pvp season 2 just for the sake of it (Nostalgia, really), but that combo doesn’t cut it anymore sadly. It’s lolsy for sure, but I can’t make it to work with a druid. Maybe it can be brought back to life with the next expansion and elite, fingers crossed.

It works extremely well still, but as always, ranged is going to be better for the size combat you do. Obviously in as small as 1v1, double melee is beast.