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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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New build for this 2nd video. This will likely be my regular WvW build from now on since i find it a good mix of surviveability and damage. The loss of Martial Mastery, Bark Skin, 6th Dwayna Rune Effect and Energy Sigils really affects my ability to just negate a ton of damage but its not so bad if i time my dodges well and my weapon evade/block. The Permanent Fury/Swiftness and 6-9 Stacks of Might for me and my pet really help out the damage. First few clips is showcasing the damage potential of the build against some unfortunate targets, then the rest is 1vX.

Enjoy!

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Posted by: zTales.4392

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The video is private? :<

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The video is private? :<

FIXED!

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Posted by: zTales.4392

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Aaaand I can’t watch it on my phone! Dang it! I’ll have to wait. >.>

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Posted by: Zera.8907

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Haha another amazing video. Love the build, very well thought out. I was so off in what I thought you were doing. Great job as usual!

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

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Ooh, a unique build, going to watch this video.

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Posted by: Spirit.9158

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This is great! I love the sword and warhorn combination as well, watching this is making me consider going full melee. I noticed you use Sic ‘Em, have you noticed at all if it still get cancelled a lot or does it not with your jaguar? I use jaguar as well and if it doesn’t… that’s a lot of extra power for the pet.

Not to do with the build, but, I’m happy somebody else uses the weapon skins I have and love, this made me happier than it should have, haha!

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This is great! I love the sword and warhorn combination as well, watching this is making me consider going full melee. I noticed you use Sic ‘Em, have you noticed at all if it still get cancelled a lot or does it not with your jaguar? I use jaguar as well and if it doesn’t… that’s a lot of extra power for the pet.

Not to do with the build, but, I’m happy somebody else uses the weapon skins I have and love, this made me happier than it should have, haha!

It still get’s canceled but very rarely because ive found most things that cancel it, its not perfect though. The damage increase is so good though.

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Posted by: Furajir.3815

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Nice man, i liked this one a lot better.

Dat burst, oh, and I got honorable mention at 3:45 in chat. Bazinga.

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personally i laughed hard when i saw them talking about Kzar Zerg from DAOC heheh

Man that guy could Zerg

but yea, props on running a unique build.

I was trying to come up with a Cleric Build earlier today similar to this, but it was no where near this fleshed out. But yea, very good video.

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Hah. Oh Kzar. Funny kid

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

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All I have to say is..

Drutt..

This is the Myth Channel

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Posted by: Zera.8907

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Not trying to derail this thread at all but since Xsorus mentioned it……..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CbSAtsA7WMM
As a member of BWC when Drutt’s name is mentioned this has to be played lol.

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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Haha another amazing video. Love the build, very well thought out. I was so off in what I thought you were doing. Great job as usual!

The secret is out!

personally i laughed hard when i saw them talking about Kzar Zerg from DAOC heheh

Man that guy could Zerg

but yea, props on running a unique build.

I was trying to come up with a Cleric Build earlier today similar to this, but it was no where near this fleshed out. But yea, very good video.

Kzar and Oldboy…. FOR THE REALM!!!!

Ive ran into a few bunker rangers with this new build and they seem to not be able to keep up with the damage.

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Not trying to derail this thread at all but since Xsorus mentioned it……..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CbSAtsA7WMM
As a member of BWC when Drutt’s name is mentioned this has to be played lol.

rofl…

wondered if anyone had that still

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Posted by: jewishjoyride.4693

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Very very cool.

I’ve been trying to crack this nut for a while, but it seems like you got there first xD. 15 in both skirmishing and nature magic, paired with sigils of battle always seemed the obvious choice. After that, I couldn’t seem to find traits that felt right.

The sword/warhorn pairing along with sic’ em is really nice though. I’ve been playing a more conventional cleric bunker in pvp, using both of those. The Fury from the warhorn makes a noticeable difference in your dps, and sic’em, despite it’s quirks is just amazing. Your pet can run down players with perma swiftness. It’s fun.

Anyways, I’m off to the mists now to give your build a try.

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Posted by: jewishjoyride.4693

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Also, using GS auto to play find the thief. That gets a bump cuz it’s one of the best games to play.

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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personally i laughed hard when i saw them talking about Kzar Zerg from DAOC heheh

Man that guy could Zerg

but yea, props on running a unique build.

I was trying to come up with a Cleric Build earlier today similar to this, but it was no where near this fleshed out. But yea, very good video.

Kzar, lol that name is a blast from the past.

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

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I’m kinda disappointed at the skill level of your foes. Seriously, does no one use condition damage or even know to kite birds/cats in wvw?

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Posted by: Forzani.2584

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Another nice video. Being able to dodge and evade so well sure pays off by allowing you to drop Natural Healing and pick up more offense.

The parts I like the most are:

1. Watching thieves on the defensive. Nice to see for a change.
2. Really like that you have the abilty to reset a fight. I am horrible at that. I start a fight and suddenly turn into Leroy Jenkins.

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I’m kinda disappointed at the skill level of your foes. Seriously, does no one use condition damage or even know to kite birds/cats in wvw?

We talk about this all the time. It is unfortunate but a mass percentage of the player base, as with any game, isn’t very skilled. Most of us that are uploading videos on these ranger forums came from DAoC, and were known for soloing and going against the odds for years.

I have literally 20+hours of footage from the past week and there are 3 total fights that end in a draw, everybody else gets facerolled. Thats just the general concensus in any MMO. Anyone who actually is any good will always end up being some sort of stalemate, or nowhere to be found in general.

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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I’m kinda disappointed at the skill level of your foes. Seriously, does no one use condition damage or even know to kite birds/cats in wvw?

We talk about this all the time. It is unfortunate but a mass percentage of the player base, as with any game, isn’t very skilled. Most of us that are uploading videos on these ranger forums came from DAoC, and were known for soloing and going against the odds for years.

I have literally 20+hours of footage from the past week and there are 3 total fights that end in a draw, everybody else gets facerolled. Thats just the general concensus in any MMO. Anyone who actually is any good will always end up being some sort of stalemate, or nowhere to be found in general.

Pretty much this. You run into the random ranger and you will just destroy him then if you fight one of the good rangers on the forums with your own ranger it becomes a fight of who makes a mistake to gain an edge in the fight.

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Posted by: Wooli.1780

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Great vid man,
I just realised you are Pwndro, we used to run the same areas when i played my SB Logem

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Posted by: faeral.7120

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nice work. i have used this build extensively since week 1. it is quite versatile. this spec gets you the best / most consistent pet dps of any spec i have tried. fortifying bond is so nice to have.

1 thing to try playing around with is lyssa runes, since all buffs will be shared with pet & gives you a full condi wipe that helps without 30 in wilderness.

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

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ive suggested 15 in skirmishing and nature with a bunkerish build 2 months ago, my topic swiftly proceded to the 10th page though .

But yea , 0 15 10 15 30 is very versatile with its gear choice , weapon choice and pet choice . I have been running runes of altruism as it is an additional 15% boon duration, 3 stacks of might and fury on heal . Essentially you can go perma fury with that .
Very useful in dungeon groups as well, just put on healing spring , and every 30 seconds you apply might , fury , regen, vigor and condition cleanse on the whole group . Add a jungle stalker and fern hound and be a ranger guardian lols

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

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I’m kinda disappointed at the skill level of your foes. Seriously, does no one use condition damage or even know to kite birds/cats in wvw?

We talk about this all the time. It is unfortunate but a mass percentage of the player base, as with any game, isn’t very skilled. Most of us that are uploading videos on these ranger forums came from DAoC, and were known for soloing and going against the odds for years.

I have literally 20+hours of footage from the past week and there are 3 total fights that end in a draw, everybody else gets facerolled. Thats just the general concensus in any MMO. Anyone who actually is any good will always end up being some sort of stalemate, or nowhere to be found in general.

Yeap, when I wasn’t running with my 8man on Merlin, I spent the vast majority of my time soloing…

Did the same in Warhammer Online as well.

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Posted by: Kasama.8941

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It’s a bit ridiculous how many critical hits you got, not to mention the damage on them, considering you only have an 11% base critical chance and 15% critical damage. Some great gameplay, though.

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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Great vid man,
I just realised you are Pwndro, we used to run the same areas when i played my SB Logem

Oh hey i remember you

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nice work. i have used this build extensively since week 1. it is quite versatile. this spec gets you the best / most consistent pet dps of any spec i have tried. fortifying bond is so nice to have.

1 thing to try playing around with is lyssa runes, since all buffs will be shared with pet & gives you a full condi wipe that helps without 30 in wilderness.

You need 25% Boon Duration to give your pet perma Fury/Swiftness with Warhorn 5 and weapon swap. Another thing is that 4 dwayna runes give me like 90% uptime on regen. I find lyssa runes pretty bad TBH to buff the pet.

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ive suggested 15 in skirmishing and nature with a bunkerish build 2 months ago, my topic swiftly proceded to the 10th page though .

But yea , 0 15 10 15 30 is very versatile with its gear choice , weapon choice and pet choice . I have been running runes of altruism as it is an additional 15% boon duration, 3 stacks of might and fury on heal . Essentially you can go perma fury with that .
Very useful in dungeon groups as well, just put on healing spring , and every 30 seconds you apply might , fury , regen, vigor and condition cleanse on the whole group . Add a jungle stalker and fern hound and be a ranger guardian lols

Im 0/15/15/15/25 but yah its a very good build. Those rune choices are good for PvE groups i just like my Regen.

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Posted by: Malsevon.1630

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This is a nice build man. I always like things that kinda go against the grain a bit, and a melee ranger usually does lol. I was curious though, would you happen to have a more bunker version for TPvP you could share with me? I have some guildies who formed a TPvP team and we need a bunker. I tried the Guardian thing, but that just isn’t really fun imo. So I’m trying to learn ways to bunker from more knowledgeable rangers like yourself.

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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This is a nice build man. I always like things that kinda go against the grain a bit, and a melee ranger usually does lol. I was curious though, would you happen to have a more bunker version for TPvP you could share with me? I have some guildies who formed a TPvP team and we need a bunker. I tried the Guardian thing, but that just isn’t really fun imo. So I’m trying to learn ways to bunker from more knowledgeable rangers like yourself.

My very first video is a good bunker choice. I used to bunker with it for our team in tPvP just swap the traits that i said. The thread should still be in the first page here.

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Posted by: Malsevon.1630

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Ah, thanks man. Which traits should I swap? Sorry couldn’t find that part lol.

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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Ah, thanks man. Which traits should I swap? Sorry couldn’t find that part lol.

0/0/30/10/30 or 0/0/30/20/20 are your options. Cleric amulet with dwayna runes. Sigil of life and energy sigil.

Troll Unguent or Healing Spring.
Lightning Reflexes and Signet of the Wild. 3rd utility is Quickness for stomps/rez or Signet of Renewal. Sic em is an option too. Rampage as one for Elite.

WS line you take Survival Cooldowns. Sword cooldowns. 3rd trait Bark Skin or Empathic Bond. Vigor on Heal trait is an option ONLY if you run Healing spring but Vigor doesnt stack with 50% endurance Trait.
NM you take 33% Regen trait and if you go 20 NM you get protection on Crit.
BM you take Mighty Swap and 20% CD reduction to F2. If you go 30 BM you get the pet heal.

As always you can tweak your build to what you like or your group comp. I usually run Jaguar and Wolf pet.

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Nice, thanks again man.

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Posted by: Chokolata.1870

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or you can go , gs sword warhorn with runes of water .

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

Puandro.3245

or you can go , gs sword warhorn with runes of water .

As a bunker i wouldnt recommend that.

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Posted by: Malsevon.1630

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or you can go , gs sword warhorn with runes of water .

As a bunker i wouldnt recommend that.

What weapons do you suggest as a bunker?

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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Sword/Dagger and Greatsword.

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Posted by: Fade.7658

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Maybe it’s just me, but I’m finding that the chance for regen to proc (5%) from the Dwayna runes is abysmally small. I put together a basic gear setup based on your first build, and it just seems like regen isn’t up all that much.

I was considering swapping to soldier armor, and a full set of Melandru runes (with lemongrass soup), and taking the 10 in nature magic and rolling it into Skirmishing for the +30% damage for the pet. With the 65% reduction in conditions, I’d swap Lightning Reflexes out for Signet of Stone.

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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It procs pretty often for me. I recommend Knight over Soldier if you go that route.

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Posted by: Fade.7658

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I will say using nearly identical gear (minus the runes), my ranger seems a lot tankier than my thief. While I enjoy my thief, the ranger just seems to match my playstyle a lot more.

Choosing soldier is mostly habit from playing the thief. If I went Knight over soldier, would I really miss the extra vitality? Having a lot less regen would make me think that I’d want to add vitality to compensate.

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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No use in extra vitality if you cant heal it. Also knight has more toughness than Cleric. TBH i only advocate extra vitality from gear on eles and thiefs and even then 16K seems the sweet spot.

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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You NEED a stun Breaker. Also tbe pets heal for more trait is crap. Use the bleed on crits for cats.

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Posted by: Fade.7658

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Thanks for the opinions and advice. I’m still a tad new to the class.

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Posted by: Manekk.6981

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Maybe it’s just me, but I’m finding that the chance for regen to proc (5%) from the Dwayna runes is abysmally small. I put together a basic gear setup based on your first build, and it just seems like regen isn’t up all that much.

It seems much much higher to me, I find it procs constantly it could be me getting hit alot wich I am, cause I’m very good at picking fights with multiple people (certainly not always for the win but it’s fun, lol) so no matter how well I dodge I still get hit plenty but even considering that I felt it seemed like a high proc rate, I’m wondering if minor condition ticks can proc it if so that would be a reasonable explanation I must go test this now.

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Posted by: Stice.5204

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Very cool video and food for thought as I tweak my own cleric’s build to suit my playstyle. Your combat skills are very impressive.

I like the synergy between the 15 Skirmishing and 15 Nature Magic traits, combined with the war horn and water runes to keep fury and swiftness on your pet. Good thinking there.

I’m curious why you chose 15 WS and 25 BM, though. Is Companion’s Defense really better than Natural Healing? I’ve never liked Companion’s Defense all that much because almost half the duration of the protection boon is wasted by the evade anyway and even with a ton of boon duration you’re still not going to get much functional uptime out of it.

Also, would you mind telling what consumables you use with this build?

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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Very cool video and food for thought as I tweak my own cleric’s build to suit my playstyle. Your combat skills are very impressive.

I like the synergy between the 15 Skirmishing and 15 Nature Magic traits, combined with the war horn and water runes to keep fury and swiftness on your pet. Good thinking there.

I’m curious why you chose 15 WS and 25 BM, though. Is Companion’s Defense really better than Natural Healing? I’ve never liked Companion’s Defense all that much because almost half the duration of the protection boon is wasted by the evade anyway and even with a ton of boon duration you’re still not going to get much functional uptime out of it.

Also, would you mind telling what consumables you use with this build?

Mango Pie and Power Potion.

Im aware protection gets used up due to the dodge but the heal is pretty bad for yourself. Its 133 every 3 seconds for yourself.

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Posted by: Stice.5204

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Mango Pie and Power Potion.

Im aware protection gets used up due to the dodge but the heal is pretty bad for yourself. Its 133 every 3 seconds for yourself.

Thanks.

I assume you’ve probably tried going 20 each in WS and BM too and found the reduced sword skill cooldown trait wasn’t worth the tradeoff of the 25 BM trait?

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