[Video] Level 15 Ranger vs Level 80 WvW

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Greetings Ranger community! Unless you visit the Engineer Forums you probaly won’t know me! But I shoot Engineer WvW video’s, and from time to time I have some side projects!

This time the side project was to go into WvW with my fresh leveled Ranger at 15, and try beat some levle 80 players! I thought I would share the video with you guy’s, since it is a Ranger after all!

Version for people @USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtYPVrZbeRE&feature=youtu.be

Discliamer – The last time I played Ranger was in the beta, so I’m not used to play one at all! Many of hte players loose because they get to overconfident since they see I’m upscale!

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Posted by: Lert.6287

Lert.6287

So next time I’ll be versusing with your ranger, ha? :P

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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Bahaha maybe! If I ever get to level it all the way to 80! Who knows! But for sure was fun to play it in WvW !

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Posted by: KensaiZen.3740

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Lol great video

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

Sebrent.3625

It’s apparently blocked in the USA on copyright grounds …

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Oh! Drakeco! I remember you from Osicat. Excellent engineer :-)

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Have another link elsewhere?

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

Ahhh kitten it copy right!!! You know what, I will upload another version where I remove the last sound file giving trouble! Gonna take about 2 hours I think before it’s saved and uploaded, but then you can chekc it out there?

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

Sebrent.3625

Thank you :-) I look forward to seeing your video.

I love watching people like you and Osicat play as your type of player is great at showing what a class can do. Get an 80 Ranger and make even better videos though ;-) We could use some more good ones. Sol hasn’t been releasing any lately :-( … though I still poke’em for more

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

Amadeus.5687

@ Sebrent here you go, this version you should be able to watch

Hehe Osicat is an amazing player indeed, and I’m a huge fan of his work as well, allways watch it! Time will tell if I get the ranger to 80 hehe, the Engineer keeps me quite busy at the moment tho! Doing some commentary work on how to play agaisnt other professions atm!

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Posted by: KensaiZen.3740

KensaiZen.3740

I would just like to add.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is how you play a skirmish ranger. Learn the mmoves. The timing. The weapon swaps and evasions.

This may not be zerg warfare but it can be critical in not letting a zerg form in the first place. Disrupt a supply of zerglings and a zerg will die.

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Posted by: Sebrent.3625

Sebrent.3625

Very nicely done! Not the usual skilled opponents I see you up against but I think we can ignore that given that you were level 15 ;-)

I’m very curious to hear your thoughts on the various pets, weapons, etc. as I noticed you used different pets but stuck with shortbow / sword + torch (a classic).

I’d definitely love to see you get a Ranger to 80 and to get more feedback from you. I can crunch the numbers and play above average, but I’m fairly confident I’m below the level of play of you, Osicat, Sol, etc.. This community could use another source of good Ranger videos :-)

I’m curious if you could do as well without being a trapper though. Sol and I have been talking a bit lately and we’re both trying to get away from trapper builds and explore other things.

Too bad you’re an Asura though. I use to love those little guys (and jokingly calling people bukha, lol) but I prefer seeing my armor now … and Snow Leopard form when I’m scouting (omg, OP … I mean, man it sucks!)

Your thoughts?

Also, we’re having a Ranger get together this Saturday (see other thread). Feel free to drop by :-) I’m going to try to be there.


Kensai is correct in that you can disrupt a zerg by hitting its reinforcements. You can also do the same by capping camps while avoiding the zerg’s main body. You can even stay outside max range and kamikaze your pet at siege in the open field (I’ve found leopard works best due to its dps and stealth).

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Posted by: Amadeus.5687

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Hehe naaah, I gotta admit that I won’t win a 1vs1 on my level 15 ranger vs, let’s say Osicat! But I’m glad you can live with it!

This is going to be me rambling about what I learnt and have been looking into:

Uhhh, where to begin? I took Asura, because I saw the Sword animations on an Asura and that’s the most hillarious animation EVER, and the Slingshot (Shortbow) I have loved since it’s skin release (But haven’t had a chance to run with it since I never had someone that could use a shortbow)!

I wanted to stay away from classic power/burst, since the Level 15 Warrior video I made, I ran a power build, so wanted a condition damage build this time!

So after looking at the Ranger weapon sets I came to this conclusion:

Sword – It’s an amazing weapon! Build in leap finisher, 3x Evade skills, and the auto attack gotta be the most amazing thing ever, I luaghed my kitten off when a Thief went stealth and I started to auto attack and just jump after him! Amazing! Also poison is allways a welcome addition in both power and condition builds! It’s mostly power damage it do, but the evade tools are amazing, and letting your condition do damage while you evade damage is gold! So I really like the Sword

Greatsword- I played around with it for some time, but it really is a power weapon in my opinon, I do have a feeling I would be able to use it for quite a lot fun in a tanky or burst power build

Longbow – It’s a power weapon, but I all most ended up running with it actually, mostly because I had to Fire Combo field’s, and the amount of projectile finishers I could get out of it should be able to do some serious burning! But shortbow gota faster Auto attack and is more suited for conditions, so I ended with taking that one hehe!

Shortbow is a midrange and quite mobile weapon in my opinon, which really is appealing to me! The way the bleeding from auto attack works is annoying tho, and I felt it did punish me for kiting!! But the build in evade, daze/stun, cripple and poison sold it to me over the longbow for the stuff I wanted to do!

Axe: I would use it if I just should do damage, but I felt I was left with to little defence running it!
The Offhand Skills wasn’t worth it either for condition damage, so dropped that

Dagger: I wanted to run with Dagger off hand orginal actually, I love the extra evade and poison, and ranged cripple and bleeding is amazing, but I had to accept that I simply dealt to little damage without more burnin hehe, I could only press my bleeding damage up on 90-95 and that’s not enough (Burning = 6 stack bleeding also)

Torch: A ranged burn + Fire Combo field, that was exactly the damage I needed, so I ended picking that one!

Warhorn: Seems like a good weapon, even better if I have had more traits to use, but I didn’t! But I do really like the birds, and Swiftness + Fury looks awesome! Also I have been looking into combo Warhorn with a Bird pet, for close to perma swiftness!

For pets I wanted to use the Eagle, Raven, or Owl, but I had to accept that I couldn’t capture the owl at levle 15, so I took the eagle, it looked great on the paper with Bleeding and Swiftness, but again I had to accept when I got into WvW, I needed as much CC as I could get, else most would eat me up (I simply dealt a lot less damage then my enemy, so had to keep them in control!) Both the spider and dog was amazing at it! I would have to capture all pet’s and test it more before I can come with some real feedback on the pet’s!

Also I do think trap rangers are awesome (all appear to know that), but it dosn’t matter that much what utility i pick at level 15 hehe, I just took traps because they are fun to use, and they had condition damage build into them (and as I said, damage was what I really lacked)

What I would run, if I was 80, is a pure melee, or semi ranged, beast master build! Atleast the little Theory Crafting I have done! I would build it around a lot off Evade mechanic’s, and running Superior rune of the Air! that + a bird, and maybe Warhorn should give me perma swiftness! I would focus a lot on crit and crit damage, and in between when the enemy actually can hit me (because of all the evade)
Rune of Air got a lot of time to recharge! I’m not sure about the trait build, because there is a lot of testing I would have to do, like If the minor trait Natural Vigor ain’t stacking with Vigor Boon! ect.

Weapon load out would be Sword/Dagger or Sword/Warhorn, and not yet sure if I would go with Greatsword, Longbow or Shortbow, again, I need time to test it haha

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Posted by: awge.3852

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What can I say? Very well done! for a level 15 ranger you actually managed to use the build I am using now, without the extra toughness/power… truly outstanding! I agree that you should lead your ranger in a BM~ish path but do keep this play style (decent dps, pet control, condition damage, smart moves) since fire damage is totally boss when you know how to lead your opponent into your fire traps and keep them there (totally rocking the spider immobilize + fire field).

I believe the real challenge will come from players who will out DPS you or outsmart you, after all that ranger had the drop on you for a short while due to your lack of survivability (level 15 right), but you clearly managed to outmaneuver him very well, so it is extremely exemplary. I think I will copy this discussion and paste it on the forums that are currently aiming to help rangers improve. It never hurts for peeps to go back to the basics right? Once again good job!

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Posted by: jan.9745

jan.9745

Just wondering why your trap is bigger than normal?

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

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Well played Amadeus. And that ladies and gentlemen, is how you roll with a ranger.

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