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Posted by: Furajir.3815

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I need a math person to work it up for me, is it worth getting/keeping? How many extra dodges am I looking at with TU?

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Posted by: matenji.3809

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“Grants vigor for 5 seconds when using Heal as One or Troll Unguent, and 3 seconds for each pulse of Healing Spring to allies standing in the radius of its effect.”

You’d need healing spring all the time to make this worthwhile.

Also Sebrent calculated our various boon durations from a post that Jubskie stickied in his Rangers Guide. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Data-Ranger-Boons/first

Here’s the image (taken from the above link) with Vigorous Renewal in various modes of duration, and the other Ranger boons as well:

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Posted by: Furajir.3815

Furajir.3815

Thanks.

/15 char

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Posted by: matenji.3809

matenji.3809

Thanks.

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good point \o/

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Posted by: Nugget.8031

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I need a math person to work it up for me, is it worth getting/keeping? How many extra dodges am I looking at with TU?

Energy regen is 5%/s by default and 10%/s with vigor. 5 seconds of vigor will give you an extra 5%/s for five seconds for a total of 25% extra endurance or half a dodge roll. TU is on a 25s cd so thats one extra dodge every 50s.

If you have natures vigor you regen at 7.5%/s by default, and since it does not stack with vigor you are only getting an extra 2.5%/s for five seconds or 12.5% total. Thats one extra dodge every 1min 40s.

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

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With healing spring however, it’s pretty high vigor uptime, and the value of this trait is also that you give vigor to allies with that heal.

I feel neither this trait or Dwayna runes are well served by TU heal.

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Posted by: Faux Sheaux.6179

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Yeah, nugget made a believer out of me. I changed that trait to Wilderness Knowledge.

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Posted by: Furajir.3815

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Ya I haven’t ran it since 1st video, been using WK or ET.

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Posted by: Furajir.3815

Furajir.3815

Yeah, nugget made a believer out of me. I changed that trait to Wilderness Knowledge.

Same, I heart math nerds.

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Posted by: Puandro.3245

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I told you it was useless without healing spring. kitten your memory.

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Posted by: Furajir.3815

Furajir.3815

You spend 10 years in the military and see if your brain isn’t affected.

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Posted by: archied.6180

archied.6180

Even with healing spring, it doesn’t sound that great anymore unless you are helping allies. I didn’t realize it doesn’t stack with nature’s vigor and so only gives 2.5% per second. Thanks for pointing that out.

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

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Well, it’s not like you have many options if you run triple signet BM bunker. And quite frankly on BM bunker I haven’t used LR over Signet of Renewal for a good while, so WK does absolutely nothing for the spec.

You could try a build with SoS, SoW, and Sharpen Stone for some extra pressure when someone is trying to kite you and all you got is axe auto, with 10 in skirmishing for 30% pet speed. But then it’s still sort of a crappy trait choice because you’re only benefitting a single skill with the trait, and by sacrificing pet crit bonus you’re trading off damage still for a very marginal gain.

The only other options in that tier are expertise training, which is just a piddly damage increase to jaguar bleed stacks, or Shared Anguish, which screws your pet’s uptime on target for a stunbreak.

Thieves get vigor to stack with feline grace, it’d be nice if vigor also stacked with our trait. Or they could beef up expertise training to give our condi damage bonus to the pet and Shared Anguish to not CC the pet. Healer’s Celerity is just bad, and Soften The Fall is there for WvW/JP purposes.

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