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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

It does.

-snip-

Again, no, it doesn’t. So, Rangers become more acceptable? Great small change there. Utility-wise? We’re still the same as before. Nerfing Frost Bow won’t change much – Rangers will still be a Ranger.

Give the class a unique support, buff, or boon that can fit into both old and new PVE content – now we’re talking.

You need both. Without nerfing Frostbow, our mechanic wouldn’t matter anyway, so we need something extra over Frost Spotter and also a nerf to frost bow, then we can be in a good place.

We bring perma AoE fury, over 15 stacks of vulnerability uptime, 2 unique buffs in terms of 15% dps increase and DPS that only got higher ever since we were able to out-DPS warriors and guardians before patch (I don’t want to jump to conclusions because I can’t say for sure if we do more DPS now, since I haven’t played Warrior or Guard, yet).

Do you really believe we “need” more? If I was to build a party without Icebow possibilities – I would definitely go for Warrior (banners), Ele (might), Ranger (unique 15% boost), Thief or Mesmer (skips / quickness).
As a matter of analytical and scientific results in terms of DPS and time economy. Not as a personal preference.

OK, I need to clarify this ice bow business. Are we referring to icebow as in the icebow conjured by an ele or is there some icebow skill I am unaware of within the ranger traits? Granted it has been several months since I’ve invested more than a boss here & there into GW2 and just last week reentered and revamped and adjusted each character’s skills.

The conjured one.
This to be precise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCYXcr8zORY

“Observe, learn and counter.”

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Posted by: doogal.9368

doogal.9368

O.M.F.G. that was cool!

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Posted by: Bri.8354

Bri.8354

But who knows, Druid is still unrevealed (we might get a buff through there), and Sinister Stats for the new maps would turn the tide towards rangers that are far superior in Condition competition (Sinister Already proves to have higher solo-DPS than a Zerk)

I’ve been trying out a condition build with full sinister gear, and its had great results so far. It uses WS/SK/BM, axe or sword mainhand with torch and dagger offhand, flame trap, vipers nest, and frost spirit.

It has pretty nice damage, possibly higher than that of the S/A Greatsword build everyone is using if you have someone else to apply vulnerability.

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Posted by: Tragic Positive.9356

Tragic Positive.9356

But who knows, Druid is still unrevealed (we might get a buff through there), and Sinister Stats for the new maps would turn the tide towards rangers that are far superior in Condition competition (Sinister Already proves to have higher solo-DPS than a Zerk)

I’ve been trying out a condition build with full sinister gear, and its had great results so far. It uses WS/SK/BM, axe or sword mainhand with torch and dagger offhand, flame trap, vipers nest, and frost spirit.

It has pretty nice damage, possibly higher than that of the S/A Greatsword build everyone is using if you have someone else to apply vulnerability.

By the way – I suggest you using Sun Spirit with Sinister Stats. Everyone will hit the Burning from it which might as well result in better DPS boost. But I’m not sure on this. I just happened to love it.
Your Poison deals some nice numbers with Poison Master, too.

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Posted by: Vizardlorde.8243

Vizardlorde.8243

Bearbows are a real issue in dungeons though. As soon as I see a bear I give them 5 mins to see how they fight and if they start causing havoc …

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Posted by: TheFantasticGman.9451

TheFantasticGman.9451

I have no idea what you’re yammering about, rangers are as good as, snip, they were before the patch.

And I can agree. Don’t really feel we are in a better or worse position. Kinda where we were before patch at this point. What I do feel is that my warrior got a great buff, as did my thief and my ice bow fire staff ele

Speaking from a PVE-only point of view…