Prologue: I know the “meta” says “Zerk!”, but let’s assume we don’t care about the main meta.
I’d really like to tailor a “shortbow-condi build”. It sounds dumb, but I see potential in terms of fun and probably some PvE support.
The idea is to use skills like “Protect me” to grant your self the ability to get the enemy’s back easily while applying the impairing effects of the shortbow.
I’m focusing on signets to speed up (hunt and wild right now), quickening Zephyr, but I’d put in protect me to enhance the mentioned strategy.
For this purpose, I probably should focus on condition damage and duration to max out the idea.
Any experiences? It would be a nice alternative to my main longbow-Crit and a possible (when I’ll get to 80) Druid-support + staff (which is probably more fun in groups).
Vipers gear and shouts are your friend. If you go shout can use heal as one to get swiftness. Get boon duration from NM and short bow 3 and you get permanent swiftness.
After seeing this thread I’ve been theorycrafting at work (I’m such a hard worker >.>) and mean to try something along the lines of the following. Its basically a CC & heavy bleed build with about 80% of the survivability of that power NM/BM/Druid build everyone and their dog is running. Much like a burn guard, this build’s weakness is tons of small condi removals. I wanted condi damage from my runeset so I’m trying out the antitoxin rune (instead of trooper or durability). I’ll let you know how it goes.
First off, where and for what do you plan to use it? PvP, WvW, open PvE, instanced PvE (dungeons/fractals) or raids? Depending on where and for what, the “optimal” build will differ alot.
If its for open world PvE or fractals/raids, condi ranger and condi druid are both super meta (and have been so for along time). Full viper gear/weapons and tinkets. 4 nightmare runes and 2 trapper runes.
The druid build is strong damage and heal nicely (support others with GotL, spotter and spirits).
The ranger (dropping druid traitline for beastmastery traitline) is the highest dmg build for condi builds atm. Easyer rotation then engi and more dmg.
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As i said, I usually (and by “usually” I refer to my general MMOs experience, I don’t know if I’ll be compelled to invest time in other game modes in GW2) play PvE-roaming + dungeons. I don’t know if a good dungeon build can be useful in fractals too.
Anyway, for this specific build, I refer to PvE content.
Alright, disregard my above post.
Going straight ranger would be your best bet for optimal condition damage in pve. If you run skirmishing (you’ll be running skirmishing) in addition in shortbow you’ll have perma swiftness so you won’t need to worry about that.
Traps will work really well for you.
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Prologue: I know the “meta” says “Zerk!”, but let’s assume we don’t care about the main meta.
I’d really like to tailor a “shortbow-condi build”. It sounds dumb, but I see potential in terms of fun and probably some PvE support.
The idea is to use skills like “Protect me” to grant your self the ability to get the enemy’s back easily while applying the impairing effects of the shortbow.
I’m focusing on signets to speed up (hunt and wild right now), quickening Zephyr, but I’d put in protect me to enhance the mentioned strategy.
For this purpose, I probably should focus on condition damage and duration to max out the idea.
Any experiences? It would be a nice alternative to my main longbow-Crit and a possible (when I’ll get to 80) Druid-support + staff (which is probably more fun in groups).
Ideas?
You do realise Condi druid is now the best condition dps in the game? And it includes Shortbow with axe/torch
Surrender and serve me in life, or die and slave for me in death.
You do realise Condi druid is now the best condition dps in the game? And it includes Shortbow with axe/torch
When i read things like this i realise how delusional some are…
Now, back to the topic: For PVE fo vipers if you use the shortbow. SB is an hybrid weapon so you need to do as much power dps as condi to be effective. Otherwise the total amount of condition damage will not be enough. I’ve tested this already.
For WvW/PvP just don’t. We are locked into WS or a rune set to be able to cleanse conditions, without them you’ll melt against almost anything as everyone goes for it, with maybe the exception of engineers or thieves.
So because how this class is designed you need: precision, toughness, vitality and condition damage (plus some healing) and there is not any amorset that give you that, and the possible combinations just don’t work.
So for now just forget about condi druid for pvp/spvp.
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You do realise Condi druid is now the best condition dps in the game? And it includes Shortbow with axe/torch
When i read things like this i realise how delusional some are…
Now, back to the topic: For PVE fo vipers if you use the shortbow. SB is an hybrid weapon so you need to do as much power dps as condi to be effective. Otherwise the total amount of condition damage will not be enough. I’ve tested this already.
For WvW/PvP just don’t. We are locked into WS or a rune set to be able to cleanse conditions, without them you’ll melt against almost anything as everyone goes for it, with maybe the exception of engineers or thieves.
So because how this class is designed you need: precision, toughness, vitality and condition damage (plus some healing) and there is not any amorset that give you that, and the possible combinations just don’t work.
So for now just forget about condi druid for pvp/spvp.
Right, which is why you’d go condition ranger for pvp.
If anything, Druid is bad for most things now outside of very specific content. Even in PvE, I don’t know why anyone would take Druid outside of raiding as there is zero open world content where you need to pump out massive heals.
You do realise Condi druid is now the best condition dps in the game? And it includes Shortbow with axe/torch
When i read things like this i realise how delusional some are…
Now, back to the topic: For PVE fo vipers if you use the shortbow. SB is an hybrid weapon so you need to do as much power dps as condi to be effective. Otherwise the total amount of condition damage will not be enough. I’ve tested this already.
For WvW/PvP just don’t. We are locked into WS or a rune set to be able to cleanse conditions, without them you’ll melt against almost anything as everyone goes for it, with maybe the exception of engineers or thieves.
So because how this class is designed you need: precision, toughness, vitality and condition damage (plus some healing) and there is not any amorset that give you that, and the possible combinations just don’t work.
So for now just forget about condi druid for pvp/spvp.
http://qtfy.enjin.com/dps
and how exactly is that delusional? We’re talking about a pve setting here.
Surrender and serve me in life, or die and slave for me in death.
