Guild Wars 2

I play an engineer and necro for the most part and have fought plenty of rangers. They usually all run similar builds focusing on conditions and traps (I think… honestly I’m not very well versed on rangers)

Today I was playing and encountered a ranger that smoked me 4 straight times 1v1 while I was on my engi. I had no idea what hit me each time. The burst that this guy pounded into my face was insane. He def used 1h sword and a bow although I couldnt tell if it was short or long. He was spamming some crazy looking 1h attack that like lunged at me. He seriously looked like a thf.

My question is what kind of build was he running and how was he able to spam this skill on me so frequently? It seriously looked like a thf spamming hs or something.

I didnt take a screenshot of my log or death breakdown because I was only getting a quick game in before work and really didnt think about it much. Now that my shift is up and I’m sitting here in the mists getting ready to play I can’t help but remember getting my face stompped so f’ing hard by this guy. I actually like felt proud for him cause it was such an a**kicking that I rarely see being delivered from a ranger.

Have you guys played or seen a build that sounds like this? I’d love to learn more about it

These type of positive Ranger posts are not allowed in this forum. Only tales of ranger woe and defeat are acceptable.

Question : How long did the fights last ? The log would have been very interesting both for the damage he put out and how much the pet did …and what pet.

Hahaha yeah i see those posts a lot but this guy was shredding me and I couldnt even be mad about it. I was totally impressed.

He def ran with a bird but I cant remember which one. I would say our longest fight was maybe….. 15s long… maybe. The first encounter I had with him I pretty much couldnt even react. Maybe its because I was expecting the usual bleed build but instead this guy got right in my face and put the hurt down.

I got back to him kinda quick thinking ok that was a fluke. Next thing you know i see him like lunging at me and twirling around me. He was doing this just like a thief would do spamming ldb or hs which totally suprised me. I had to look twice just to make sure it was actually a ranger. I really wish I got a screen or at least his name so I could ask. Wish I had more info but thats the best I can remember after working the past 8hrs.

Like I said after the 4th time I had to head out for work but my god I wanted to cheer this dude on cause it was impressive

Edit: He also laid down the mud trap if thats any help. I had no idea what was going on. I’ve never seen a ranger play like this dude was

edit- nevermind you said 1h sword. Prolly just running straight Power and crit with quickening zephyr. I much perfer GS>

Just found this build on gw2guru. Not sure if this is the same or a variant of it but it looks like it could be something like it.

http://www.intothemists.com/calc/index.php?build=-FF77-0-wEFx-r2NEV-0;9k23;19OT-40;038-52B;45BW0U;1PcW5PcW55BO

copy paste if its a bad link. I lose at the internet apparently

Yeah, mud prolly kittening up your necro because you don’t have stability. Then, he just may have healed if you were using wells to remove conditions. Then, sounds like he just kicked and slashed to victory.

Possibly a heavy Beastmastery and wilderness survival build.

I could be wrong, but I do know there are some heavy BM builds out there that utilize the ravens because they actually have some strong burst. I have run a similar build myself and once I pop rampage as one and sick’em, my pet does a lot of damage…if my target stands still.

wasnt me, I run wolves over birds, the burst of birds is miserable compared to the fury you can unleash in one knockdown. Sword axe, and axe warhorn is what i’m toying with currently.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQRBHhx+0ISVidklhFrlgY9YPEaQdBsHHSR8/LogTNA;T4Ag0CnoqxUjoGbNuak1swYgxBjtIPMmiA

I’m sure I could improve, but its just for raging. needs more crit % I think

Mmm that’s exactly what i use (sword/warhorn, longbow -yes, longbow-, ravens as pets). I haven’t seen many rangers with a build like mine. That’s funny tbh a friend of mine (a really good thief player) says exactly the same thing about this spec, it’s a thief-looking ranger spec. The spec i use is pretty much def based but i run 30 points in beastmastery, and my dear raven has actually a nice burst. It’s like an evasive tank: your pet deals most of the dmg, while u disorient the enemy player with your evasive 1h sword skills (meh, i actually have almost 2k power myself, without counting the bloodlust bonus). This spec is really effective in spvp. Ofc you might have problems against a very good thief, but he won’t take you down easily anyway, and u can always run away. Tribant if u want more info about the spec feel free to ask.

Burst was probably the bird you ignored or quite possibly two ravens. unloadfing the first then the second into you while you were distracted by our 1h sword dance.

It’s 1 skill is a 3 chain pretty much sticks to you. 2 is a leap back then leap into you(evades), 3 is a zig around you(evades) and poison. Dagger offhand adds another evade.

every time we swap pets we get a 2 second haste us plus pet plus he quite possibly used our survival haste. It could be one of several build variants.

The sword does decent damage but it’s the pets that unload on you.

I’d love to see this high burst high damage ranger build, even if it is glass cannonish. I’ve been wanting to play a high damage (burst or otherwise) ranger, I don’t care how fragile I have to be to make it happen. If you find out anything more I’d love to hear specific info!
Thanks.

Well as stated he used a one handed sword and as reported in other post it is probly the best weopan rangers have (damage wise). Its what I use. Once you get use to manually using skill one (razor naga mouse makes this eaier). Add quickness i get 6 second worth with pet swapping and quicking zephyr. Qz has a 60 second rechage however you can swap pets every 15 seconds. Add a torch for condtion damge (bonfire and throw torch). You can still add what ever stablity you need.

Many rangers refuse to use a sword becuase of what they invision a ranger to be. Dont let your pre-conceived notion stop you from trurly exploring whatthis class can do.

That build is horrible lol….trap ranger so much better

It probably was simply a 1h sword build coupled with QZ/quickness + pets damage.
Sword autoattack looks like HS from thiefs, but it’s just autoattack against moving targets.

The trapper build damage doesnt come closes. I maybe wrong. But the reason the build is good is becuase you can use quickness. As far as i know you cant speed up trap damage. If the target isnt dead or near in 6 second you have 9s untill you next burst. However you should have full health or near full. But it may just be your play style. Becuase the share numbers are better.

Probably running berserkers and used quickening zephyr together with rampage as one. I’ve been doing some 2k crits + 3k crits from my pets when using this combo. Assuming he could do similar damage, it would only take a couple of seconds to kill an engineer. Sadly it only happens when those two skills are up.

The only reason he defeated you was because a sword ranger is new to you. Read up on its abilities, and you’ll soon find yourself defeating any sword ranger. The reason? They may have two evades (three if using a dagger), but their autoattack locks them, disallowing them to dodge roll or even move at all.

The 1h sword is a great weopan. It can hit up to 3 targets and it cripples. Any ranger attemping to use a 1h sword should without exeption take auto attack off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbNuv4T8J1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ5f7iEEFZc&feature=plcp

Ranger should learn to master this weopan without auto attack.

Just beucase other class dont have to remove auto attack isnt a reason for a ranger not to remove it.

Serraphin Storm.2369:

The 1h sword is a great weopan. It can hit up to 3 targets and it cripples. Any ranger attemping to use a 1h sword should without exeption take auto attack off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbNuv4T8J1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ5f7iEEFZc&feature=plcp

Ranger should learn to master this weopan without auto attack.

Just beucase other class dont have to remove auto attack isnt a reason for a ranger not to remove it.

Nobody should learn how to master a weapon without auto attack just to make it viable. That is logically flawed.

it was prob dante running his qz 1h raven build.

Agadar.4931:

Serraphin Storm.2369:

The 1h sword is a great weopan. It can hit up to 3 targets and it cripples. Any ranger attemping to use a 1h sword should without exeption take auto attack off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbNuv4T8J1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ5f7iEEFZc&feature=plcp

Ranger should learn to master this weopan without auto attack.

Just beucase other class dont have to remove auto attack isnt a reason for a ranger not to remove it.

Nobody should learn how to master a weapon without auto attack just to make it viable. That is logically flawed.

Heaven forbid I also disable auto target…

Were you even moving?

Agadar.4931:

Serraphin Storm.2369:

The 1h sword is a great weopan. It can hit up to 3 targets and it cripples. Any ranger attemping to use a 1h sword should without exeption take auto attack off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbNuv4T8J1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ5f7iEEFZc&feature=plcp

Ranger should learn to master this weopan without auto attack.

Just beucase other class dont have to remove auto attack isnt a reason for a ranger not to remove it.

Nobody should learn how to master a weapon without auto attack just to make it viable. That is logically flawed.

^exactly.

Agadar.4931:

Serraphin Storm.2369:

The 1h sword is a great weopan. It can hit up to 3 targets and it cripples. Any ranger attemping to use a 1h sword should without exeption take auto attack off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbNuv4T8J1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ5f7iEEFZc&feature=plcp

Ranger should learn to master this weopan without auto attack.

Just beucase other class dont have to remove auto attack isnt a reason for a ranger not to remove it.

Nobody should learn how to master a weapon without auto attack just to make it viable. That is logically flawed.

We’re rangers, we have to work twice as hard, and be at least twice as good as other classes to be competitive – fact of the day!

Never underestimate the bird

But… just drop a ground targeting AOE at your exact location, preferably fire (if you can.) And you’ll see that ranger desperately trying to dodge away for a few seconds but being unable to (dodge away.) After they do eventually manage to dodge away they will try to heal, so use your interrupt, heal yourself up and then finish them off, easy kill.

I don’t see how disabling auto attack makes it better. All of the times I have had my ranger stood in front of a target, with the sword and auto attack off. Pressing the 1 key often in that scenario would just send my ranger Jedi flying across a great distance randomly. In a PVP context, with auto attack off, it gives the enemy player several seconds+ to take the ranger down.

Tribant.8127:

Just found this build on gw2guru. Not sure if this is the same or a variant of it but it looks like it could be something like it.

http://www.intothemists.com/calc/index.php?build=-FF77-0-wEFx-r2NEV-0;9k23;19OT-40;038-52B;45BW0U;1PcW5PcW55BO

copy paste if its a bad link. I lose at the internet apparently

that’s my build you found there (http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/74948-1h-sword-build/), and I can tell you it shreds people to pieces.
Offers great defensive posibilites and a huge damage output.
Only thing that hurts you are (ofc) thiefs and people who manage to kite you.

Played it a long time in sPvP and Tournaments, and the biggest advantage is, that people just don’t expect the things you do.

2 bird , possibly berserker 1-handed sword; longbow and shortbow both work, shortbow is more defensive, but longbow is bad at allot of things.
You probably got hit by a Quickening Zephyr, bird spike. Usually about 10k in 2~ seconds.
If you dodge the pet’s F2 and stay out of range, block or CC during the 2s the quickness is up, he is in allot of trouble.

the number two skill will leap away from the target its an evade skill use it a second time within like 2 seconds will give the leap finisher. So if you use it with bonfire you will get fire armor (think thats what its called). It works better if spec for condtion.

you can get 6 second of quickness. 2 second with pet swapping a 4 secound with quicking zephyr.

Was it a Sylvari with a red spiky head? Because I was doing this to people a few days ago on my Ranger. And it’s very, very fun.

Oh yeah, I’m playing a build like that at the moment, I call it the “noob-stomper” (no offense). Mainly power, with 5 points in BM, lots of wilderness survival, a sword/warhorn, and a shortbow. I usually throw the mud to immobilize and then jump in.

If you run with the rage as one elite you are immune to knock-down/stun (good against engineer/ele), or entangle is good to keep the noob in place for 6 secs of quickness plus the magic “1” key. You can even feel like a thief by ending with a quickness stomp if the noob you are hitting is delicate enough.

I don’t think it does as much damage as a quickness+HB or pistol whip spam though.

Agreed with others that the burst was almost certainly from dual ravens and the quickness of QZ + pet swap.