What happened to Live Vicariously?

What happened to Live Vicariously?

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

anduriell.6280

I remember in BWE3 the heals didn’t have an ICD, so you would be healed every time you heal.
Which actually it was fun because you could somehow sustain yourself as long as there was someone to heal.

I understand the problem of 100% regenerating bunker that this situation could bring, but right now that trait is really bad.
You get healed once a second when you heal, but the healing is really low and doesn’t scale at all with healing.
You would get the same healing you would get with regeneration but also you need to be healing something.

I think that trait would need some numbers adjustments to at least scale with healing?

from the wiki:

When you heal an ally, you are also healed.

Healing Healing: 207 (0.01)"
0.01? REALLY?

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

you realize how much healing i can get for myself just by healing other people with heals that are still hitting me? An absolute ludicrous amount, even if it was all base, you add on ~1300 healing power ontop of that with a decent heal on live vicariously and it’s going to get broken real fast.

Not to mention Live Vicariously procs when you heal your pet too.

It’s a minor trait, it’s still very noticeable and very cool in theme, they can’t do much to it without making it either have to be a GM trait that competes directly with our others, or nerfing druids elsewhere (not something i’d recommend).

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Posted by: Wondrouswall.7169

Wondrouswall.7169

Wiki is incorrect. It’s 0.08 scaling. My 2nd Druid has 1475 Healing Power and Live Vicariously heals me for 325.

Edit: After some testing. The wiki and tooltip on the trait panel is incorrect. The actual scaling is 0.06, but the tooltip shows a 0.08 scaling.

PET PRECISION & DPS TESTS -OUTDATED-
Will update once Path of Fire releases.

(edited by Wondrouswall.7169)

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

anduriell.6280

and thats the balance problem with the druid and thats why we are getting so many nerfs.
i would propose something as crazy as you CAF wont heal you but improve our other healings and effects.

The procs doesn’t matter if it’s only once a second. Also your pet almost take no damage and you can’t get AF from full healed pet so utilities like TU aren’t that useful anymore.

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Posted by: UmbraNoctis.1907

UmbraNoctis.1907

Imo this trait is stronger now than in the BWE unless you are in a big zerg, because it healed only for about 60 or 70 per proc back then. Removing the ICD would make this trait too strong. Druid doesn’t need more sustain.
And pets still eat tons of aoe and cleave dmg in PvP/WvW, so there is almost always something to heal.

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Posted by: anduriell.6280

anduriell.6280

Imo this trait is stronger now than in the BWE unless you are in a big zerg, because it healed only for about 60 or 70 per proc back then. Removing the ICD would make this trait too strong. Druid doesn’t need more sustain.
And pets still eat tons of aoe and cleave dmg in PvP/WvW, so there is almost always something to heal.

I agree, the ICD is needed.
But the trait should scale better with healing.
With healing 1.6K (full healing) you get around 300 HP. Which is crap having in mind you only get this while you are actually healing someone.

This trait should heal much better, it’s our sustain when we are using staff.

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Posted by: Wondrouswall.7169

Wondrouswall.7169

I don’t know, the scaling seems okay for now, assuming they nudge it up to match the tooltip @ 0.08. But this is Anet, they will just correct the tooltip to match 0.06 instead.

PET PRECISION & DPS TESTS -OUTDATED-
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