Guild Wars 2

What does a GS Axe/X build look like right now for frontline wvw.

It obviously takes BM GS trait and the axe trait because aoe chill with 900 range is pretty good in a zerg…lets not lie.

Beyond that what are you doing? I’ve got to many variations in my head from chill and spike trap trapper to WS Survival traits

I’m leaning towards trapper variation as I can still get my fury for weapons swaps and quickdraw gives double axe 3 and maul.

Throw some ideas out!

id love to know the same. definitely 6/0/6/0/6 for BW, and Remorseless would allow us to go very tanky, without any concern for crit chance. bears to survive zergs.

I was thinking valk armor and weapon, and cavalier jewelry. not sure if this is the best way to optimize it though.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-J;4sEFu-r2cDV-0;9k5R;1Y_b;0237157246;9;1PedaPedag-FR3-wD12;1ZbZ6_b_6abab27WAV1a;9;9;9;9;9;9;0VRV8A

I’m curious as well. Pre-patch I was running a sentinel frontline build with Hoelbrak runes using Wilderness Survival, HS, MT, Entangle, etc. I’ve been hearing how real the burst and condi are right now so maybe sentinel is still viable? What traits and runes would be top-notch go to with it?

mistsim.2748:

id love to know the same. definitely 6/0/6/0/6 for BW, and Remorseless would allow us to go very tanky, without any concern for crit chance. bears to survive zergs.

I was thinking valk armor and weapon, and cavalier jewelry. not sure if this is the best way to optimize it though.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-J;4sEFu-r2cDV-0;9k5R;1Y_b;0237157246;9;1PedaPedag-FR3-wD12;1ZbZ6_b_6abab27WAV1a;9;9;9;9;9;9;0VRV8A

I don’t think it’s realistic to expect your bear to survive a zerg clash unless you’re on a extremely low tier server. Even then, I think in a 10v10 the bear still dies before it can be of much use. 50v50 and the bear just instantly explodes, even if you pop signet of stone.

I would either drop BM entirely or use the OPs suggestion of the axe trait.

why not? you know they have endure pain yeah? on separate cooldowns.

Something like this I reckon.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNBhODbkRFaZxOWwhFoaxwfQtv+CEAd/WD7wf8/QDA-TVxTgAPK/G1B0pEkU9Hg9HIFgg6sA-w

mistsim.2748:

why not? you know they have endure pain yeah? on separate cooldowns.

Because it just doesn’t. Have you ever tried it in T1-2 zerg clash in melee range? Pets just EVAPORATE. You may very well get lucky and have your pet survive via target preferences, but I find that hard to justify a full trait line.

No, better to use your traits for things like protective ward.

In a lower tier “zerg” of like 6, ya, BW will be a good choice. 50+, no. Hell no.

Edit: Just for clarity, neither SoS nor EP prevent CC or condis. I assume we’re theory crafting here, so just clearing up WHY they don’t survive.

Sube Dai.8496:

Something like this I reckon.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNBhODbkRFaZxOWwhFoaxwfQtv+CEAd/WD7wf8/QDA-TVxTgAPK/G1B0pEkU9Hg9HIFgg6sA-w

Tried that and hated it though, I dislike the WS line for ZvZ. only good trait is WS, Master and adept are garbage and you know it. Shared anguish wont do anything with all that CC flying.

I keep trying to make this work but I know it can be more optimized. HaO for out of combat swiftness. I like path of scar to rip some stab.

So I try to get in combat, pop SofP, swoop in pop invuln sig , lay the cc traps maul and swoop out. Swap back to Axe, spam ricoche axe 4 and path of scars

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNAR3XjUqQ5KWvCOsAXLG+Dq91XgAg/g8dD+04HaAA-TVhRgAA7Pgp8jVHgpSwW1fIFgg6sA-w

I regret not taking healing spring though, I guess I could take HS. But I wouldn’t drop resounding timbre, RoA/SofP is required you need stab and this is when you need to bring end of story.

I guess that would look more like this.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQNBhODbkRFaZxyVwhF4axwfQtv+CEA8HkvbwnG/QDA-TVhRgAA7Pgp8jVHgpSwW1fIFgg6sA-w

I’ve been doing this

And it seams to be doing pretty well, no trouble surviving (at least no different to before). spam-able chill and weakness for every one. I’m still deciding between Natures magic and skirmishing. Protective Ward is just to good

Skirmishing version looks like this

No love for the Traps? Haven’t tried it, but I feel this might be the way to go.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJARRjMqQ3KWvCOsAXLG+DqtIWgAg/g8dD+04HG+UeVWWbF-TBSBAB6pLwS1fu4SAE0+DZp87MlgLcEAA4BAQKAmUaB-e

Here we have:
-AoE Chill, Poison and Cripple
-Spotter
-Double GS + Quickdraw + Remorseless + Intelligence. Should mean 3 Mauls every 10s, 2 which guarenteed crit and 1 which will be +25% damage. So plenty of damage.
-HS with CD reduction
-RaO with CD reduction
-Taunt plus some useful bear F2s

What it lack is:
-Range. But if you’re aiming for frontline thats OK.
-Condition cleansing you are fairly reliant on the group.
-No stunbreaker.

For really big fights were i need all the survival i can get my hands on im using this

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-J;4sEVu-p2kDV-0;9-6D;1Y_b;0037147246;4Rwl0U;16TsW6TsWu-kS3-1jB2;1ZbZ68c_69cab27WJV1k;9;9;9;9;9;9;14s8K

For smaller fights i switch to clarion bond and Moment of Clarity and replace SotW with muddy or sick’em.
Used to run entangle for smaller fights but SotP is good burst with Remorseless. The 2-3 shouts in that build warrants Resounding Timbre i think.
Anyways still testing, been switching builds, runes, sigils and armor many times the last couple of days.

Tried running cleric gear aswell, but you just gain so Little and Loose roughly 50% crit dmg and some power+toughness. I find valk/cav gear the best atm with a couple of berserker trinkets here and there.

The 3450 armor with this build might be overkill but dunno yet Your maul will still crit like a truck, especially when running MoC in the smaller fights.

@ Eggyokeo…….I love that first build for a non remorseless version. Windborne and resounding will combine well with oakhearts 5% reduction.

@Cufufalating……I love traps. The build I am playing with uses Frost trap and spike trap with SotP SoS. Just like yours it has no stunbreak. But unlike you I trust pets a lot less so I do not choose BW. I also choose axe. nobody can survive 100% frontline it todays damage. so you need to back out once in a while and throw some aoe axe 3 chill.