They tried not to give more than two classes each weapon option as a way of balancing weapon choices.
With the exception of Dagger, Greatsword, Sword, Staff, Pistol and okay that can’t be the reason. I don’t know.
I think it could be because of the significant conceptual overlap with Longbow / Shortbow. Basically, you’d have to make the Rifle be a ranged, 5 slot weapon that behaved in a different manner / filled a different need than either the shortbow or the longbow.
There’s also the thematic link between rangers and nature. Between the way their traps work, spirit skills, and animal-named weapon skills, there’s a serious animist / untamed wild theme going on there that’s hard to fit the rifle into. Compared to the soldier class warrior or the engineer, who is basically a collection of gimmicks.
Really late edit: gimmicks is the wrong word. Gadgets.
Mixing insults with your post is like pooping in a salad.
It’s pretty obvious, and nobody’s impressed.
I think it could be because of the significant conceptual overlap with Longbow / Shortbow. Basically, you’d have to make the Rifle be a ranged, 5 slot weapon that behaved in a different manner / filled a different need than either the shortbow or the longbow.
There’s also the thematic link between rangers and nature. Between the way their traps work, spirit skills, and animal-named weapon skills, there’s a serious animist / untamed wild theme going on there that’s hard to fit the rifle into. Compared to the soldier class warrior or the engineer, who is basically a collection of gimmicks.
I’d say ranger, engi are gimmics. Warrior is just run of the mill.
Also, if we’re going into details and lore/ranger style weapons, the horn/torch/axe/dagger are fine but they shouldn’t even be near a Greatsword.
If we effectively take the assumption that ranger classes resemble wood elfs/elfs of LOTR. (nimble, fast on ANY type of bow, a friend of nature/commands aid of nature spirits, ability to charm beasts and use traps) then greatswords would be out of the question…even a one-handed sword would be questionable, as they’d probably roll like thief’s with two daggers.
All classes can not use all weapons.
It is like that in a lot of games.
What did the other class forums answer about not being able to use rifles?
There are several classes in GW2 that can not use rifles.
I suggest you choose one that can.
You have a choice.
I think it could be because of the significant conceptual overlap with Longbow / Shortbow. Basically, you’d have to make the Rifle be a ranged, 5 slot weapon that behaved in a different manner / filled a different need than either the shortbow or the longbow.
There’s also the thematic link between rangers and nature. Between the way their traps work, spirit skills, and animal-named weapon skills, there’s a serious animist / untamed wild theme going on there that’s hard to fit the rifle into. Compared to the soldier class warrior or the engineer, who is basically a collection of gimmicks.
I’d say ranger, engi are gimmics. Warrior is just run of the mill.
Also, if we’re going into details and lore/ranger style weapons, the horn/torch/axe/dagger are fine but they shouldn’t even be near a Greatsword.
If we effectively take the assumption that ranger classes resemble wood elfs/elfs of LOTR. (nimble, fast on ANY type of bow, a friend of nature/commands aid of nature spirits, ability to charm beasts and use traps) then greatswords would be out of the question…even a one-handed sword would be questionable, as they’d probably roll like thief’s with two daggers.
Except that Narsil was a Great Sword, wielded by Aragorn who was first and foremost… A Ranger. Additionally he also used a one handed sword/dagger Combo for much of the first book. In the film, ( I don’t remember it in the book) Aragorn also used a sword/torch combo to fight the Ring Wraiths.
I’ve got to admit, I’d liek to see rifles on rangers too, however I agree with others that it really doesn’t quite fit the motif. Saying that, the sylvari organic racial rifle is of nature. So what the hell?
Give Rangers there 2nd admendment! lol but Rangers and Rifles just fit in my book i see no reason why not, i dont care for pistols.. and darn the lore! rangers being anti-technology pffft! Bows are a technology to you know and so are swords/axes If rangers are really anti technology they be naked and fighting monsters with there bare hands and teeth like savages… you can worship Nature spirits and shoot guns to
It’s truly amazing how this topic just keeps coming up time and time again. Hopefully ArenaNet will take this as a clue, and we will see a rifle for the Ranger in a future expansion.
80 Ranger | 80 Mesmer | 80 Thief | 80 Guardian | 40 Engineer
“The learned is happy, nature to explore. The fool is happy, that he knows no more.”
-Alexander Pope
It’s truly amazing how this topic just keeps coming up time and time again. Hopefully ArenaNet will take this as a clue, and we will see a rifle for the Ranger in a future expansion.
If Ranger were given a rifle, Anet would pretty much indirectly confirm that we’re nothing but gimped warriors. I doubt they’ll want to do that.
Besides, what druidic/hunter-like abilities would you suggest a rifle to have, anyway? If anything, the loud noises it makes would scare your pet away.
you know… the loud gun noises scaring there pets away is simply not true… the animals rangers use are trained attack animals.. and for rifle abilites i see a sniper theme have it focus on single targets so maybe a charged aiming attack the longer the charge more damage dealt, an auto attack that can apply a bleed or cripple, maybe a knock back or knock down ability, an attack that applys weakness/vulnerablity, just a few ideas top of my head
Give rangers rifles- when you equip the rifle, your pet is stowed away and you gain the rifle skills and charged shot like a warrior has and actually have a burst…nah, never going to happen, rangers will remain the gimped ‘pet’ and ‘ranged’ class that has pets that die within seconds in a zerg, have pet skills that take longer than the fight lasts to activate WHILST STANDING IN ONE SPOT so they die to aoe and then spend forever waiting to be able to take out any pet due to the long cooldown.
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If Ranger were given a rifle, Anet would pretty much indirectly confirm that we’re nothing but gimped warriors. I doubt they’ll want to do that.
Besides, what druidic/hunter-like abilities would you suggest a rifle to have, anyway? If anything, the loud noises it makes would scare your pet away.
It’s not the skin that makes the profession, it’s the skill animations. Look at how greatsword skill animations look, and apply those same ideas to rifles. It’s not hard to imagine.
I won’t get into the whole realism behind it, or Ranger players general lack of knowledge when it comes to hunting and animals. I’ve already had that discussion in a “why can’t Ranger use rifles?” thread that was made months ago, and I’m not starting a new one.
80 Ranger | 80 Mesmer | 80 Thief | 80 Guardian | 40 Engineer
“The learned is happy, nature to explore. The fool is happy, that he knows no more.”
-Alexander Pope
While I’m sure that in real life some folks who call themselves Rangers would use rifles, you have to keep in mind that they’re a product of recent industry in Tyria and most Rangers are primal nomads strongly attuned to nature. In short, Rifles don’t really fit with the theme of the Ranger and fit perfectly with the theme of the Warrior.
It is as it should be, they just need to fix Long Range Shot.
Figure it’s a fantasy MMO and in that they got the physics of bows back to front.
In RL longbow does max damage at <= 100 yards. As range increases damage decreases
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.
Because unforunately Rangers in GW2 are the lame Legolas-kind of Ranger, not the cool Survivalist/Frontierman-type of Ranger.
The only difference between the two concepts is related to historical periods. Tyria is still mostly pre-industrial and also magical, so thematically it’s likely that guns aren’t supposed to be so prevalent that every primitive rugged survivalist walks around with one.
We can’t have guns because then the warriors might get jealous.
Harpoon gun…they use strings..aka giant rubber bands…they arent mechanical. (Look at the skills…they arent missles or bullets,its splinters and fish swarms…)
Because unforunately Rangers in GW2 are the lame Legolas-kind of Ranger, not the cool Survivalist/Frontierman-type of Ranger.
The only difference between the two concepts is related to historical periods. Tyria is still mostly pre-industrial and also magical, so thematically it’s likely that guns aren’t supposed to be so prevalent that every primitive rugged survivalist walks around with one.
Pre-industrial?
I beg to differ.
Rifles are everywhere. Look at all the Bandits. Even the friggin’ Centaurs have their own rifles!
Figure it’s a fantasy MMO and in that they got the physics of bows back to front.
In RL longbow does max damage at <= 100 yards. As range increases damage decreases
I was referring to the comment that loud noises scares the pet away. Except it doesn’t scare hunting dogs away in the real world, because they are trained to hear the sound of gunfire, so why would it be any different in the game? And this is where the follow up comment is usually something on the lines of “well bows don’t scare wild animals away when you fire them”. Which is also not true, as animals have a far better hearing and instinct then humans, and will usually run away at the first sign of danger, including the sound of a bow firing.
80 Ranger | 80 Mesmer | 80 Thief | 80 Guardian | 40 Engineer
“The learned is happy, nature to explore. The fool is happy, that he knows no more.”
-Alexander Pope
All these things are just exuses.
Ranger should be able to use rifles.
Not fitting? Nature based? Sure blacksmithing is so nature based, as is burning corpses or 70% of the game that excludes ranger from the serious nature only aspect. Its not a druid!
Besides, what is not fitting? A rifle he could snipe with?
You ever seen an eldar ranger? It is more then perfectly fitting.
It is a tipical hit and run long range, skirmishing weapon. Exacly the style ranger is.
