Guild Wars 2

Drakent.9605:

Is not a speculation is a fact.

the cat stealth is causing the ranger to also stealth with the minor trait that you are supose to share booms but is also working the other way around .. now is a bug so sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt . also the stealth doesnt just work on your favor if you have enouf pts on BM and the rigth sigil on you set up you pet does a huge amount of damage where all you have to do is kitte your target while pets rips them apart and drive the targets now b/c they cant see the cat

There’s not enough proof to say it’s a fact. I’ve been running a cat build with sharing boons and full BM (Yes, I let my pet do the damage for me while I semi-tank) and this never happened. Besides, cat’s stealth is only for 4 seconds. Even if this bug allowed the ranger to retrieve boons from the cat, and was considering stealth to be a boon, the duration would only be for 4 seconds (Less than that, since when you share a boon it has decreased duration). You can imagine the chances of 3 bugs occurring in the same scenario in such a specific way so that it gives advantage to the ranger.

Of course, I may be wrong and there is a possibility that this is happening. What I’m saying is that there’s not enough evidence, only a few people in the whole forum say they have witnessed it.

You could argue though that even melee pets are part of a ranger’s ranged arsenal, which brings them more in line with thief in terms of ranged power, considering some pets also have good cc abilities.

Longtomsilver.8031:

No build can compensate the difference in targettracking Arrows from the Thief SB.

If a ranger shot arrows on a left and right sidemoving target on a distance of 700+ then all his arrows will miss, the Arrows from a Thief SB follow the target and will never miss.

To be fair, ranger axe #1 works exactly the same as thief SB #1. Never misses (though it might not fire if you’re not facing the target), and will bounce to hit up to 3 targets total. The range is even the same (900, though I haven’t tested it to verify).

i know…the thief seems to have better abilities in using a bow then a ranger!….doesnt make sense.

Thief’s shortbow is amazing. It is exactly what I would have wanted from the Ranger’s shortbow, but alas.

faeral.7120:

in pvp you are usually comparing a glass power thief to a condi trap ranger.

of course the thief will do more power dmg, it’s what he’s specced for. it’s like complaining that a power thief’s bleeds can’t compare with traps.

if you want to test actual ranged power numbers, run 20/25/20/0/5 with berserkers & QZ. you say thief can do 12k with 3 shortbow attacks, ranger can do 12k with 1 longbow attack that tracks stealth & pierces targets. full power barrage is 1.2k crits on light armor ( ranger equiv of a power well ). and shortbow isn’t as bursty but very high pressure in a power spec.

while line aoe isn’t quite as strong as true aoe, it is still quite strong in teamfights & against bodyblock classes ( thieves guild, mesmer, ranger, necro ).

icing on the cake is that yes, pets are ranged dps. if you really want to compare ranged power dmg, ranger can win easily. but thief has stronger utility.

A glass cannon ranger is a dead on arrival ranger — that’s the difference.

You can build berserker and be babysat by a group, but alone you are a sitting duck.

Thieves are MADE for gearing berseker due to all their innate defensive capabilities, which the ranger doesn’t have. You don’t have target drops, you can’t frontload like a thief, and you sure as hell can’t get swiftness+endurance refund on dodges (giving you 3 dodges in a row easy) while having large access to cc breakers via traits.