WvW Condi Druid build help
I think that if your opponent is under the right conditions then you may win :P
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Yeah, but do you have any tips, something you would change and why?
Yeah, but do you have any tips, something you would change and why?
nothing man… Haven’t you heard? Condi druid is top cake now, top dps.
You should have an easy win with that.
ok, ty very much ^^
I don’t like condi on ranger. I’ve played traps and had a lot of fun but it’s not ideal, it’s a bit of a gimmick and it puts all your eggs in one basket.
Shortbow – Not a fan.
If you get condis you only have one way to remove them all of them. (coming out of avatar and one fremoved from your trap heal.) I’m not a fan of trap heal.
Traps kitten your survivability.
You’re not getting away from anyone without a staff and without a way to activate the smoke field from smokescale.
I like this better.
I went quickdraw in skirmishihng—it’s really nice if you learn how to use it. Great for dmg and great for escapes and repositioning.
Wilderness survival – Shared anguish. You aren’t going to have much in the way of stability. Being able to ignore a fear or a knockback is pretty huge in a fight.
Also— I removed the sbow and went for a sw/torch axe/dagger classic.
The heal-troll unguent. You’re fights will be longer and unless you’re fighting a class that can remove your condis constantly, you will come out on top.
You can see what I’ve done.
You might want to go for a condi dmg pet. The lynx and the birds are good for bleeds.
If you wanted to go beastmastery you could trait blinds and more into the build.
Many different ways to go.
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The original build is very low on condi removal and stun breaks. It could potentially be exploited if someone wants to put the effort in, but you’re so elusive and tanky it’s a borderline troll build.
It depends on what you do with it. If your goal is to set up camp near a keep spawn and harass groups of uncoordinated players trying to get to the zerg (totally valid IMO despite it’s annoyingness), this is a good build. If you want a more general roaming build I would insert some PvP-esque concepts like heavier condi removal and stun breaks, and possibly up your damage with things like a few viper trinkets or etc.
This vid, in a nutshell, is why trapper rangers are bad,
https://youtu.be/TjpLeCE8bfY
FYI,
I’m running full berserker except my magi staff which has a sigil of cleansing. Between that and renewing wave I have no other Condi removal.
This vid, in a nutshell, is why trapper rangers are bad,
https://youtu.be/TjpLeCE8bfYFYI,
I’m running full berserker except my magi staff which has a sigil of cleansing. Between that and renewing wave I have no other Condi removal.
Ew, a revenant.
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This vid, in a nutshell, is why trapper rangers are bad,
https://youtu.be/TjpLeCE8bfYFYI,
I’m running full berserker except my magi staff which has a sigil of cleansing. Between that and renewing wave I have no other Condi removal.Ew, a revenant.
As it is said,
If you think rev is so op then play one. You will go crawling back to carry druid within a week.
Revs used to be OP as all hell, now they’re free bags. They’re just awful.
That trapper Justine killed seemed to be glass and pretty incompetent to boot. A dire or apothecary condi druid is going to be nearly unkillable.
I don’t think their op, I think their bad.
I rarely see them in PvP anymore and I always see them in WvW.
Easy kill.
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Revs used to be OP as all hell, now they’re free bags. They’re just awful.
That trapper Justine killed seemed to be glass and pretty incompetent to boot. A dire or apothecary condi druid is going to be nearly unkillable.
When is the last time you have seen a competent druid/trapper druid solo roaming in wvw? Is the OP going to be competent enough to play full traps?
I mean think about it, no signet of stone, no protection. Garbage AF generation.
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guys i don’t understand your english.
You ask anywhere in reddit and everybody agree condi druid is top cake! most dps! immortal!!
easy wins because druid carry all the zerg! ( Irenios words ).
hamrolf rev is still easier than druid. No druid however competent is, goes full glass with druid.
hamrolf rev can pull that build out because the insane dps it can bring.It’s like fighting a riffle warrior, if you get crits of 4,5k AA every second plus 15k every 2 seconds it is impossible for a ranger to have enough time to kill anything. But again justine knows it just he just wants everybody to go for the faceroll hamrev.
But of course hamlol rev can’t carry as much against a theeth or a perma block and stun guarrior.
guys i don’t understand your english.
You ask anywhere in reddit and everybody agree condi druid is top cake! most dps! immortal!!easy wins because druid carry all the zerg! ( Irenios words ).
hamrolf rev is still easier than druid. No druid however competent is, goes full glass with druid.
hamrolf rev can pull that build out because the insane dps it can bring.It’s like fighting a riffle warrior, if you get crits of 4,5k AA every second plus 15k every 2 seconds it is impossible for a ranger to have enough time to kill anything. But again justine knows it just he just wants everybody to go for the faceroll hamrev.But of course hamlol rev can’t carry as much against a theeth or a perma block and stun guarrior.
Somebody died to a hammer rev recently.
guys i don’t understand your english.
You ask anywhere in reddit and everybody agree condi druid is top cake! most dps! immortal!!easy wins because druid carry all the zerg! ( Irenios words ).
hamrolf rev is still easier than druid. No druid however competent is, goes full glass with druid.
hamrolf rev can pull that build out because the insane dps it can bring.It’s like fighting a riffle warrior, if you get crits of 4,5k AA every second plus 15k every 2 seconds it is impossible for a ranger to have enough time to kill anything. But again justine knows it just he just wants everybody to go for the faceroll hamrev.But of course hamlol rev can’t carry as much against a theeth or a perma block and stun guarrior.
Do you understand the difference between a trapper condi ranger and a Condi Ranger?
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When is the last time you have seen a competent druid/trapper druid solo roaming in wvw? Is the OP going to be competent enough to play full traps?
I see them pretty frequently. It’s really not a terrible build. AF is easy to get.
Obviously full traps isn’t the best way to go. We told him the downsides and he can change the build if he wants. Stealth is very powerful and we have no idea how competent the OP is.
So what is this condi ranger build that is supposedly top cake?
The only 2 builds i know of are the trapper which is not that good and Justine’s longbow build which used to be good but anet ruined it in the recent balance.
Traps as a mechanic are pretty crappy on all professions. The only thing that makes the ranger build viable is rune of the trapper and massive access to stealth, as much as 6 ways.
The old survival condi build (a/d + s/t or add SB to replace the axe swap) is probably the best one around. It can just be adjusted minorly for druid. As long as you can recharge CA on cooldown you’re golden. Dolyak runes, SotW, regen from somewhere, whatever.
A lot of people on the ranger forum crap on the build, but it’s kitten near indestructible. Gladomer wins outnumbered fights multiple times a stream on it. Ya its movement is not great, but if you’re fighting people who just want to fight and not be little kittenes then it’s a rock solid build. Does excellent pressure damage as well so it’s really good for small team fights. Anyone wasting time attacking the condi druid is letting your allies freecast, and at the same time you can’t just flat out ignore a condi druid burning you to death, no matter how awesome your condi removal is.
So what is this condi ranger build that is supposedly top cake?
The only 2 builds i know of are the trapper which is not that good and Justine’s longbow build which used to be good but anet ruined it in the recent balance.
dude, you should know if you read the forums that ranger is not dps class and druid even less so. And ranger has never had an option for condi, Justine’s build was more like one trick pony against extreme glass players.
my guess is Ranger is supposed (for how the weapon multipliers are ) to be something like off-dps \ off-support \ balanced by the weapons range.
Anet failed miserably thou.
dude, you should know if you read the forums that ranger is not dps class and druid even less so. And ranger has never had an option for condi, Justine’s build was more like one trick pony against extreme glass players.
Right…
Echoing what people have already said; traps really aren’t the way to go.
General info beyond that; you’re lacking reliable Astral Force generation, on top of Healing Spring currently being the overall worst self-healing option available. You’re going to want to trait for and run either shouts or Survival skills because both of those heals and utility lines are just flat out better. Personal preference would dictate shouts because then you have easy access to swiftness and can pick up Celestial Shadow which is a MUCH better trait than Natural Stride for fights.
Ideally for fighting, Shortbow and Axe/x (dagger) are the best dueling/damaging options, but seeing as this is WvW, Sword/Dagger is fine, but you’ll want to go Geomancy/Doom on that set.
Given the abundance of poison and lack of crit, you’re better off dropping Skirmishing entirely unless you’re very dedicated to hidden barbs and abusing Quickdraw + Shortbow 5 + Ancient Seeds, but even then, you’ll end up getting more mileage out of Wilderness Survival with (and excuse me for not having them memorized by now)
an Oakheart Salve, 2, Poison Master setup.
Just my 2c, I haven’t run condi outside of PvE in a long time myself but that’s how I would do it.
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