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Posted by: Troll.4237

Troll.4237

Im currently running 30,30,10,0,0 for traits and for armor i am using cavaliers so i have 1,753 toughness yet i feal squishy as hell and usually die from 2 hits from a thief.

I run with about 1,500 toughness on my necro (yes i know Death shroud helps alot with survivability) and i dont feal nearly as squishy.

The question is: Why am i dieing so fast? What do i need to change?

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Posted by: Yelloweyedemon.2860

Yelloweyedemon.2860

What do i need to change?

Forum name

Anyways, if you’re serious, I was playing same build full dps 30/30/10 I think. I very briefly explined what I was doing against thieves in WvW thread named 3 shotted by thieves, last post atm.

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

Sube Dai.8496

Necros have higher base HP too. With a 30/30/10 build and cavaliers you will still only have 15k hp which is not enough imo. I would switch to a PVT/Zerker combo and try that. PVT Armor and Zerker trinkets.

Also most rangers would trait 30 into WS for empathic bond, that will help a lot with survival against conditions. I would argue that you dont need any trait points in Marksmanship (even for a power build). The damage related skills only make a tiny difference to your overall dps, and there are much better survival options in WS and NM.

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Posted by: Luku.6542

Luku.6542

I recently levelled a ranger to 80, bought a full rabid set for a trapper build, and have 2994 armour. I go down to thieves in 3-4 hits as well.

I’m at a loss other then to go full PVT gear, but i’m not sure if that will help me? any suggestions?

I would like to try and get some survivability (which I thought I was with 3k armour) but I was wrong

Cheers

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

If you’re roaming as a Ranger you want 2.5k armor. What that equates to in toughness I haven’t a clue. You really should shoot for closer to 3k though. With your build you can still get 2k power, 40% crit, 75% dmg, and 3k armor if you include signet of stone. That’s a pretty good spread imo. You’ll always be killed though just fyi. Power builds don’t have enough tools to stay up.

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Posted by: Sube Dai.8496

Sube Dai.8496

If you’re roaming as a Ranger you want 2.5k armor. What that equates to in toughness I haven’t a clue. You really should shoot for closer to 3k though. With your build you can still get 2k power, 40% crit, 75% dmg, and 3k armor if you include signet of stone. That’s a pretty good spread imo. You’ll always be killed though just fyi. Power builds don’t have enough tools to stay up.

2.5k armour is only 1400 toughness, no where near enough IMO. PVT gear with toughness runes will give you closer to 3k armour and 18k HP -you will notice the difference.

I recently levelled a ranger to 80, bought a full rabid set for a trapper build, and have 2994 armour. I go down to thieves in 3-4 hits as well.

I’m at a loss other then to go full PVT gear, but i’m not sure if that will help me? any suggestions?

I would like to try and get some survivability (which I thought I was with 3k armour) but I was wrong

Cheers

I find swords and daggers are the best for thieves. You’ll probably always eat their first hit but then you need to block (GS) or evade (sword/dagger). Also remember to swing like mad when they stealth, particularly shadow refuge. So easy to connect with maul when they SR right in front of you. If you have bows/axe you’re not going to connect while they stealth and that makes them a lot harder to kill.

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Posted by: nagymbear.5280

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Just learn to take it on the chin when you run into a matchup that you cannot win. It happens to all builds. You can survive and defeat others even in full berserker gear in wvw, beacuse you have enough room. In LB and GS you have 2 weapons which have a lot of utility. Couple that with 2 canines or spiders and you can stay out of harms way a lot. The point is not to survive the damage you take, the point is to not take the damage, or take it at the right time. If you’re opponent has a long channel, you should channel too and go for an invulnerability. I made a set of Speed runes today and now I can run Portect me, Lighning reflexes and Signet of the renewal with Rampage as one and Healing spring. That is pretty much all the defense you can get as a squishy power ranger in wvw from utilities. You can roam with fill zerker ranger, take camps, and take players too. You can put out real pressure with high power, I’m talking about making 33% of a thief’s health disappear with 1 autoattack. Play it. It will be frustrating at first, but as you learn to play all builds you will know when to run, and when to stay and finish the fight. Its not like glass cannon thieves can kill everyone in wvw. They can be beaten too, and than they need to run for it.

Khert Devileyes – Ranger / Mano Negra – Thief / Nagymbear – Warrior /
Elona Bonechill – Necro / Fionna Gymirdottier – Guard /// RoF

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Posted by: Luku.6542

Luku.6542

Thanks for the replies, I guess part of my issue may be that I am in Australia on a High WvW server, thus, I am mostly facing Ascended gear opponents with a low ping compared to mine.

So by the time anything registers on my screen I have already taken 2 maybe 3 hits from a thief, and some of them 4-6 k each……… I might need to try a regen bunker build and see if this helps me survive a few more hits… is apothecary or clerics the way forward there?

Thanks again.

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Posted by: Raven.9603

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I run a power based / boon duration double melee build and roam very well. The only consistently challenging class to fight is PU mesmers. For SoS necro’s, swap LR with SoR.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fMAQNAR8YnAV0FclFKWwaZAp9YSsEM5VI9cP8vOJELYVC-jkCBoNCykIBiIAOLqIaslhht6KIlXRTvATdiIq2boIa1yAYOGA-w

Sevans runs a power based s/d+longbow build that is also excellent, do a google search for him on the forums since the Anet search is horrible.

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Posted by: DeathPanel.8362

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Im currently running 30,30,10,0,0 for traits and for armor i am using cavaliers so i have 1,753 toughness yet i feal squishy as hell and usually die from 2 hits from a thief.

I run with about 1,500 toughness on my necro (yes i know Death shroud helps alot with survivability) and i dont feal nearly as squishy.

The question is: Why am i dieing so fast? What do i need to change?

Necros have DS and a bigger hp pool. Rangers don’t.