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Yet another Ranger nerf - SOW
On the bright side they buffed hammer damage,
For revenant ;-)
SotP wasn’t nerfed by the cooldown so much as the revert back to a single boon application that can just be corrupted.
To be honest, the new wild sig is probably better for wvw. An AoE field is better than entangle’s vines and the extra crit damage will make up for losing steady focus to slot brutish seals.
We can also now purge 4 conditions with trolls using the fall and WK traits. We lost some stab but came out stronger.
Don’t forget that we are also getting Dolyak Stance with soulbeast so it’s not that big of a loss.
Losing those HP ticks for druid generation was probably the worst that came of the change.
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I agree Sub. And I always try to look at the brightside of Lemons in life Justine. But I really need the stab because of the interrupts while I try to stomp. that’s the big loss for me and my playstyle. I guess I will have to look hard at the Soulbeast. Also condi management was not a major problem for me at this time. I will adapt I guess. Just bummed for now…
Anyone else have any idea for stab and burst except for the Yak Stance?
I agree Sub. And I always try to look at the brightside of Lemons in life Justine. But I really need the stab because of the interrupts while I try to stomp. that’s the big loss for me and my playstyle. I guess I will have to look hard at the Soulbeast. Also condi management was not a major problem for me at this time. I will adapt I guess. Just bummed for now…
Anyone else have any idea for stab and burst except for the Yak Stance?
I’m guessing it will come with either the Soulbeast’s traits, beast-fusion skills, or both. Also, stealth-stomp with LB 3 is a thing. And activating a well-timed traited glyph (like glyph of equality), can blind a downed person just before they use a cc.
NSPride <3
NSP pride! For now I am just running Sic Em. thieves and Mesmer abound
On the brightside the active effect for SoW looks very nice
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
The very concept of stability and its lack thereof is illconceived in this game, to be honest. The very concept of downed state in pvp is ill conceived as well.
The problem with stability is that you get knock around like a ragdoll if you don’t have it, yet professions that rely (or would rely) on some form of cc to stay alive are neutered if they face an enemy with stability. It replaces reactive gameplay with “stab-lol” gameplay. In my opinion, stability should be reworked to be a passive, reactive trait to avoid chain cc. You gain say 5s of stability if you are hit with any cc, when that cc ends. This is unccoruptible/etc in the same way stealth is. There can still be traits and abilities for it but of shorter duration.
That said, ranger has some of the worse stability in the game and taking both sources out in back to back patches is unjustifiable. Even if we gain dolyak and whatever, whatever happened to the oh so treasured build diversity angle/pr line?
And yeah, this was a great ability to take as power druid: damage, stability, passive avatar power generation and some active gameplay in terms of timing the use of this ability. Instead we get a passive set and forget ability that will be a must have regardless because 5%+ dps. I’m against changes that dumb down the game, this is one such change.
LB rangers got a huge buff in the form of 6 sec unblockable.
Rangers stability options are bad as we don’t have refreshing stability skills. The boon rip will be horrible on POF, so I would never take 60 sec CD stability option with casting time. For soulbeast Dolyak is much better stability source, for druids is CA 5.
LB rangers got a huge buff in the form of 6 sec unblockable.
The 6 sec of unblockable is pretty useless if you get tossed around all the time in WvWvW because you have no stability.
Just wanted to say that I never really used SOW as there are other utility skills that are just better for my weird play style(tanky core ranger which also got even harder nerfed once again).
LB rangers got a huge buff in the form of 6 sec unblockable.
The 6 sec of unblockable is pretty useless if you get tossed around all the time in WvWvW because you have no stability.
Just wanted to say that I never really used SOW as there are other utility skills that are just better for my weird play style(tanky core ranger which also got even harder nerfed once again).
If you’re a LB ranger you shouldn’t really be in range of people being throwing you around.
They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family.
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna
LB rangers got a huge buff in the form of 6 sec unblockable.
The 6 sec of unblockable is pretty useless if you get tossed around all the time in WvWvW because you have no stability.
Just wanted to say that I never really used SOW as there are other utility skills that are just better for my weird play style(tanky core ranger which also got even harder nerfed once again).
I play on BG and it’s not that difficult to avoid the pain train if you are using a LB. It’s also not even that big of a deal if you manage to get in a group with a guard.
Getting run over isn’t the problem we have, it’s dealing with 20 guards all using wall of reflection to render our best zerg weapon useless along with too many classes having cheap block channels that allow them to retreat into the zerg when you try to burn them down.
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I appreciate those who weighed in and I thank you. I don’t roll too much with zerg simply because it’s a bit lag when I do. Plus as was mentioned seems like everyone is running reflects. Guards, Ele, Engi, Mesmer, Warrior, even thief sometimes.
Did anyone notice that Signet of Renewal is pretty lame now too as it’s passive does not cleanse condi over time? Or am I blind? I see the regen but not a condi removal passive.
Oh and well Said Savvy. Even when I use Hunter shot or sword leap into smokescale cloud to work the invis I still am subject to being ping-ponged around and can’t get the stomp. It makes it rough. RaO is the only stab I have…
I appreciate those who weighed in and I thank you. I don’t roll too much with zerg simply because it’s a bit lag when I do. Plus as was mentioned seems like everyone is running reflects. Guards, Ele, Engi, Mesmer, Warrior, even thief sometimes.
Did anyone notice that Signet of Renewal is pretty lame now too as it’s passive does not cleanse condi over time? Or am I blind? I see the regen but not a condi removal passive.
The condi removal passive was a joke. The regen works slightly (Not much) better, but it now has a shorter cooldown, allowing you to actually cleanse conditions more often. The passive usually just left you clearing a random bleed from a Power build (They happen), or Vulnerability from a stray warrior Greatsword AA, leaving you helpless against the later Condi Bomb.
Also – your pet won’t die now from the transfer.
Yeah I haven’t had much time with trying it out. I guess mostly because as a druid I condi wipe pretty well already. also run some gen sigils for transfer in wvw. RIP gen sigs in spvp.