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Posted by: MrFisticuffs.7306

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hey rangers,

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQJARTjEqUxa/Kusw1ag9gadAUAndregdGMChwFrUiE-TlSDABHt/wDXAgUVCCj6PHcEAS4QA8kyPQ0FAgJIIeAAAA-w

i hope i did that link right.

my questions are;

1. would i be better served using sword-x instead of GS to go with LB
2. also what are the best sigils for my weapons and why
3. utilitie ideas, am i using the best 3
4. i feel very slow without WH or signet of hunt
5. cant decide between troll urgent and healing spring
6. i feel good about pets but probaly wrong
7. finaly, my traits! yikes!

Anyways i appreciate the help ahead of time been on game for 6 weeks now, TY

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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It will work but you need to play really well. I think s/d has a higher skill cap than GS, but whatever.

You have almost no condi removal so I would at least consider 2 things. 1) use SotF or 2) go full glass cannon with berserker.

That’s just me and I know others will disagree. I’d use Muddy Terrain in both of my scenarios and I would get really, really good at using s/d because LB becomes a secondary weapon once you knock off half their health or so and they close the distance. It may help you to think of yourself as a s/d ranger rather than a LB ranger, even if you use both sets equally.

Also consider drakehound. A LB ranger needs to maximize the amount of time before they need to melee.

Edit:

1) S/D is better IMO, GS is WAAAY easier to use.
2) Fire/Lightning/Bloodlust etc. Energy for melee if you feel you need it, which is likely.
3) I’d use variable signet/LR/MT
4) Use variable SotH OOC and learn how to use sword for speed boost.
5) If you decide on HS it needs to be because of leap and blast finishers or you just NEED more condi removal.
6) Drakehound and Wolf or any CC pet and Wolf
7) See above

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Posted by: MrFisticuffs.7306

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i rather use sword-dagger, with that being said i would need to change moment of clarity right? if so what should i change to and what are some more condi removal options?

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Posted by: MrFisticuffs.7306

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actually for my skill level i better just use GS/LB

so if yawl can tweak my build using that weapon set that would be sweet

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i feel like there may be a better adept trait in defense but not sure, using shared anguish atm.

plz look at my GS/LB sigils and tell me if that is good, superior sigil of energy cant afford atm

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Posted by: TheLargeUnit.2793

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Ok, I play a very similar build so let me give you a few pointers. Take wolf + jungle? (the one with immobilize) spider, drop SotW for QZ (at least till after the patch), Traits look good but if you were to take 2 wilderness survival skills I would go for cooldown reduction over Shared Anguish. Definitely grab full zerk or at least knights, valkyrie or cavalier. Sigils look good except perhaps doom (up to you but I would probably take bloodlust, precipitation, or energy. Good runes, trinkets and weapons. If you do decide to leave behind the greatsword further down the road go 6/0/2/6/0 with either dagger or axe offhand. Axe is seriously underrated so defiantly play around with that. Also, as I mentioned earlier play around with your utilities post patch as signets will not require SotB.
Hope this helps, good luck!

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if i go swrod-axe or sword-dagger than what would be the traits taken in 6/0/2/6/0?

but keep in mind i want LB to go with sword-x

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Posted by: TheLargeUnit.2793

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You would most likely take spirit of strength, nature protection OR evasive purity, and SotF. Again, you have SotW, are you just putting that in there because you will be using it post patch? It will be a viable option then.

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Posted by: MrFisticuffs.7306

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sotw for post patch

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ok if i go away from soldiers is the best armor to get in the following order,

zerker,knights,valk, and then cav

ALSO, i got ebonblade pretty cheap off TP and it came with battle sigil and so i put in energy sigil with it is that a great combo?

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i worry about surviability if i don’t use soldiers armor, yawl thoughts plz

i am open to having 2 sets of armor also

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Posted by: MrFisticuffs.7306

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so i guess the condi clean is in nature trait line i wonder if i could use power and nature trait lines to have LB and condi clean? i am open to usnig sword-x

torch-axe-dagger-wh, torch seems interesting with fire field

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAV3fnEqQvg2yC+rAVLGAToanAdaA8aUdfBLwEXyoqA-T1BFABBqEsR1fc4JAowBBoJlfxt/obAgLAApAgYZE-w

this is the other posters build next to me in ranger forum
could we combine my build with his build with the traits? just curious

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

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@MrFisticuffs
Some ideas i have for you:
option 1 – the sigent/survival power ranger.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQNAT8YjMq0yaFL+rQ1ag+ga9DEAjdrfwdTEEp9FfUhE-T1CEABvpDIKlWEcBASU9nuUCawDAQKlJ5s/wAHEAAOCAupZgUAlLMC-w

Lots of flexsability, you can change SoR to SoS when plying vs non condi builds also can change HS to TU(same condi logic) and change 33% regen trait to the more pwer trait.
Good survivability and good damage and good mobility(strong fury uptime/swiftness etc..) The reason for entangle and not RAO is the annyoing s/d thieves poping up like mushrooms pst few weeks stealing 20= sec stability in 1 hit. Buf if you realy want RAO, change SOTW to muddy terrain.

option 2: The sigent might burst power ranger

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEqUwaFLOsw1aA/gaZDEAtzh/tGcuEHxFTUiE-TVCFABHqGACHBAAeAAXpEEJlfOcJASTXQiq+0y+DkCgJhRA-w

Big burst potential with sigent activation(give 3 to you and 6 to pet with the bound minor trait) and active SOTW you also have acsess to the SOTH+maul combo. The build got also good defence/mobility and survivebility but not so much flexsebility.

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Posted by: MrFisticuffs.7306

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is toughness or vitality more important in WvW?

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQJARTjMqUxa/Kusw1ag9gadAUAndregdGMChwFrUiE-TlSDABHt/AqKBhR9nDOCAJcIAeS5XFPAAQ01AgJIJuAAkBofLA-w

updated build

i now how zerker underwater weapons, i need suggestions on what sigils to put on those.

also i updated back piece and current nourishment

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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Underwater weapons are irrelevant unless you have a stacking sigil on a land weapon. You’ll lose bloodlust from your land weapon for example if you enter water, unless you have bloodlust on your underwater weapon.

Your build looks reasonable for following a commander and staying in the backline (stick near the eles), but since you’re not very experienced at WvW or PvP, expect to get your kitten whooped horrifically when someone decides they want you dead until you get the hang of things. If you get too down from that happening, try out some of the more defensive builds posted in this thread.

You don’t really need that power + condi damage food unless it’s really cheap (not sure about a lot of food prices.) You have literally zero condi damage, so you’re boosting nothing. Mango pies are super cheap and will boost your survival a bit.

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@MrFisticuffs
Some ideas i have for you:
option 1 – the sigent/survival power ranger.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQNAT8YjMq0yaFL+rQ1ag+ga9DEAjdrfwdTEEp9FfUhE-T1CEABvpDIKlWEcBASU9nuUCawDAQKlJ5s/wAHEAAOCAupZgUAlLMC-w

Lots of flexsability, you can change SoR to SoS when plying vs non condi builds also can change HS to TU(same condi logic) and change 33% regen trait to the more pwer trait.
Good survivability and good damage and good mobility(strong fury uptime/swiftness etc..) The reason for entangle and not RAO is the annyoing s/d thieves poping up like mushrooms pst few weeks stealing 20= sec stability in 1 hit. Buf if you realy want RAO, change SOTW to muddy terrain.

option 2: The sigent might burst power ranger

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEqUwaFLOsw1aA/gaZDEAtzh/tGcuEHxFTUiE-TVCFABHqGACHBAAeAAXpEEJlfOcJASTXQiq+0y+DkCgJhRA-w

Big burst potential with sigent activation(give 3 to you and 6 to pet with the bound minor trait) and active SOTW you also have acsess to the SOTH+maul combo. The build got also good defence/mobility and survivebility but not so much flexsebility.

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i have lots of dungeon tokeons for AC and SE would any of those armors be better than soldiers?

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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The last build you posted is basically the meta for longbow. Give it a whirl and see how you like it. If you find you want more damage, you can always add in some dungeon token berserker pieces until you find the right mix for yourself.

The one thing you may want to change is the fern hound, I don’t think it’s that great of a pet, but try it and experiment. It’s not super important. Time to kill some peeps with it and see how you like it.

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQNAT8YjMq0yaFL+rQ1ag+ga9DEAjdrfwdTEEpdGLVhMJ-T1CBAB8pRAq9HiVJYOq/AxDAALlfScBAA4gAkiumEMBFwRAgMA5TA-w

added underwater weapons just because

i meant to have jaguar and wolf, ty for pointing that out

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with all the condi renwel in this build i wonder if i can swap SoR for sickem?

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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Your training is complete. Go forth into the world and test.

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Posted by: MrFisticuffs.7306

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im so slow without SoH or rampage as one

i would like to go sword-Wh/LB, instead of dagger but would that be a bad move?

do the sword and dagger evades get u condi cleansed?

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Posted by: LughLongArm.5460

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M8, i gave you your solution:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fNEQNAT8YjMq0yaFL+rQ1ag+ga9DEAjdrfwdTEEp9FfUhE-T1CEABvpDIKlWEcBASU9nuUCawDAQKlJ5s/wAHEAAOCAupZgUAlLMC-w
rune of the pack will give you the same uptime of swiftnees/fury as a horn. Keep the dagger, change runes (and gear if u you want minmax.)
with sigil of speed you can stack 2 min of swiftness by killing 2-3 wolves.
dagger evades doesnt get u condi cleansed. You can expirement with off hand axe, alot of help in a power ranger vs power ranger scanario.

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i want to go fuly that build i was just meaning while having runes of the ranger, didnt want to loose ranger rune, so im gonna wait till i get a BLSK or just have to sets of armor using dungeon tokens

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Posted by: GiggleFairy.3807

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this guy posted his build very recently on forums. i like and am using it now lol. im using rune of the ranger instead of scholar.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

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Jaguar is one of the best pets, but experiment with combining drakehound with MT. It’s a powerful back to back immob.