Guild Wars 2

I see a lot of angry rangers and I understand why..

the point I wanted to make is that the aoe nerf has not happened yet and im pretty sure they would roll that out with balance changes we were promised..

so there is still hope.. just more waiting..

and just to cheer you all up

pets now reaggro thieves upon unstealthing without you telling them to so your pet is alot more effective against them.. not a direct buff but a buff none the less

If you’re starving and someone gives you a cookie then walks away, it’s nice to have a cookie but you’re still gonna starve to death.

lol an aoe nerf would make the already garbage longbow even more useless since barrage is the only nice skill worth. So i suppose if they do nerf aoe thay have to give something in return, huge. I wouldn’t be surprise is that pet and thief thing is a “bug” and they fix it later.

ROFL radnar, quite true. Sorry firebreathz, small kitten like this isnt important. Pets reaggroing on thieves wasnt even close to our biggest issue. They promised fixes to traits and utilities and signets, we have gotten none except for the builds that are being played in the meta. Im starting to think anet doesnt care about innovation and cares more about catering to the people who do nothing but tourny. I mean, JP already thinks longbow is fine, I knew right then I was wrong about him. I loved anet and gw1, lost respect for them in gw2. I gave up on balancing and fixing important issues and each patch confirms I was correct, since all they do is make more pve content, a new pvp map, but dont touch rangers many glaring issues.

No, give up on balance. Stop counting on Anet to deliver things you want. Work with what you have. If you don’t like what you have, quit doing it and do other things until they change it. If they never changes things satisfactory to you, just never come back.

The problem with pets is that they die to AoE from enemies in dungeons, not from AoE by players in SPvP.

I understand the problems all too well my main is a ranger and I have no alts to speak of really..

the thief thing is just a consultation prize.. not much of one, I know but better then nothing

we are just about hitting our skill caps for each profession so nerfing/buffing L2P issues are less likely now so that might of been the/a reason for waiting so long to change anything.. as they over nerfed before.. maybe they didnt want to do similar or the exact opposite…

mainly just trying to say we havn’t seen the balance patch yet.. yes it’s later then we want but atleast its still on the table so to speak..

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with pets is that they die to AoE from enemies in dungeons, not from AoE by players in SPvP.

Are you delusional? They die from aoe in spvp too. My pet dies passing by a warrior who is using 100blades, that shouldnt ever happen.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with pets is that they die to AoE from enemies in dungeons, not from AoE by players in SPvP.

Are you delusional? They die from aoe in spvp too. My pet dies passing by a warrior who is using 100blades, that shouldnt ever happen.

Well then you should have a huge advantage in that confrontation now that the War wasted his biggest damage skill on your pet. And you can swap in your pet after it dies.

Ursan.7846:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with pets is that they die to AoE from enemies in dungeons, not from AoE by players in SPvP.

Are you delusional? They die from aoe in spvp too. My pet dies passing by a warrior who is using 100blades, that shouldnt ever happen.

Well then you should have a huge advantage in that confrontation now that the War wasted his biggest damage skill on your pet. And you can swap in your pet after it dies.

Lol you must be new. Ok first, 100blades has a 6 sec cd, second I said passing by a warrior using 100blades, he wasnt attacking me, but if he was he would hit both of us, kill my pet and I would survive because LR or signet, but lets use your scenario. Warrior is attacking someone, pet runs by and at the time warrior is using 100blades and dies. Warrior turns towards me and attacks, I swap new pet out, gain quickness for 2 secs and unload, he uses bladestorm to gap close and evade attacks hits me with his knockdown burst and goes for 100blades, pet dies again, and Im fighting for my life, problem is, if 1 pet dies and you swap him out, you are stuck with a 50-60 sec pet swap cd, now both pets are dead, and for the next 15-20 secs(assumingly) you do 50% less damage, your only option is to run, but warriors have more mobility than rangers, well kitten now you gotta CC him. But warriors have many stability options and stun breakers, well kitten now you gotta put your head between your knees and kiss your kitten goodbye.

I rarely have problems killing on any toon I play, because Im better than most people, but when I see my pet die to a random aoe or get 1 shot by a kill shot or a hard hitting skill by someone trying to kitten me off, I die a little on the inside. Being forced to have a pet if you want to play ranger is stupid, anet failed at this. No getting around it.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Ursan.7846:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with pets is that they die to AoE from enemies in dungeons, not from AoE by players in SPvP.

Are you delusional? They die from aoe in spvp too. My pet dies passing by a warrior who is using 100blades, that shouldnt ever happen.

Well then you should have a huge advantage in that confrontation now that the War wasted his biggest damage skill on your pet. And you can swap in your pet after it dies.

Lol you must be new. Ok first, 100blades has a 6 sec cd, second I said passing by a warrior using 100blades, he wasnt attacking me, but if he was he would hit both of us, kill my pet and I would survive because LR or signet, but lets use your scenario. Warrior is attacking someone, pet runs by and at the time warrior is using 100blades and dies. Warrior turns towards me and attacks, I swap new pet out, gain quickness for 2 secs and unload, he uses bladestorm to gap close and evade attacks hits me with his knockdown burst and goes for 100blades, pet dies again, and Im fighting for my life, problem is, if 1 pet dies and you swap him out, you are stuck with a 50-60 sec pet swap cd, now both pets are dead, and for the next 15-20 secs(assumingly) you do 50% less damage, your only option is to run, but warriors have more mobility than rangers, well kitten now you gotta CC him. But warriors have many stability options and stun breakers, well kitten now you gotta put your head between your knees and kiss your kitten goodbye.

I rarely have problems killing on any toon I play, because Im better than most people, but when I see my pet die to a random aoe or get 1 shot by a kill shot or a hard hitting skill by someone trying to kitten me off, I die a little on the inside. Being forced to have a pet if you want to play ranger is stupid, anet failed at this. No getting around it.

with my build i can pretty much stand in 100blades and only get to half hp thats if i sit there for the whole thing even last swing..

i can rolfstomp warriors 1v1 easy but i have a really nice bunker build so that is the only reason why

and cus my pet is BM speced he can run though with no probs

Uh, well apparently you aren’t interested in serious discussion.

But you’re making several assumptions in your scenario here.

1. Warrior is attacking someone. Pet just happens to walk into his 100B, dies (how often does that occur? 100B is a pretty small AoE)
2. Warrior suddenly disengages to focus on you? Or did he kill his previous target and then move towards you. He can’t be at full strength, unless his previous target is really bad (how often does that happen?)
3. 100B takes 3 seconds to do full damage. I imagine if you see your pet caught in 100B, you have ample time to swap it out. If he uses Frenzy, well, that’s another CD he blew just to kill the pet.
4. 100B is an immobile channel. Yes, it has a 6s CD but that’s not taking into account the recharge on the stuns 100B requires to be truly effective.
5. Also why are you LRing out of just the 100B and not the knockdown? That’s uh, silly.
6. Stability/Stun Breakers don’t affect cripples and chills. Rangers don’t really have a stun/knockback (Except GS/SB 5) so I’m not sure why you’re bringing it up.

While Pets do die to AoE in sPvP, 100B is somewhat of a silly example, IMO.

firebreathz.7692:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Ursan.7846:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with pets is that they die to AoE from enemies in dungeons, not from AoE by players in SPvP.

Are you delusional? They die from aoe in spvp too. My pet dies passing by a warrior who is using 100blades, that shouldnt ever happen.

Well then you should have a huge advantage in that confrontation now that the War wasted his biggest damage skill on your pet. And you can swap in your pet after it dies.

Lol you must be new. Ok first, 100blades has a 6 sec cd, second I said passing by a warrior using 100blades, he wasnt attacking me, but if he was he would hit both of us, kill my pet and I would survive because LR or signet, but lets use your scenario. Warrior is attacking someone, pet runs by and at the time warrior is using 100blades and dies. Warrior turns towards me and attacks, I swap new pet out, gain quickness for 2 secs and unload, he uses bladestorm to gap close and evade attacks hits me with his knockdown burst and goes for 100blades, pet dies again, and Im fighting for my life, problem is, if 1 pet dies and you swap him out, you are stuck with a 50-60 sec pet swap cd, now both pets are dead, and for the next 15-20 secs(assumingly) you do 50% less damage, your only option is to run, but warriors have more mobility than rangers, well kitten now you gotta CC him. But warriors have many stability options and stun breakers, well kitten now you gotta put your head between your knees and kiss your kitten goodbye.

I rarely have problems killing on any toon I play, because Im better than most people, but when I see my pet die to a random aoe or get 1 shot by a kill shot or a hard hitting skill by someone trying to kitten me off, I die a little on the inside. Being forced to have a pet if you want to play ranger is stupid, anet failed at this. No getting around it.

with my build i can pretty much stand in 100blades and only get to half hp thats if i sit there for the whole thing even last swing..

i can rolfstomp warriors 1v1 easy but i have a really nice bunker build so that is the only reason why

and cus my pet is BM speced he can run though with no probs

Cool, me dying to 100blades wasnt the issue, the pet dying too it in seconds was.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

firebreathz.7692:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Ursan.7846:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with pets is that they die to AoE from enemies in dungeons, not from AoE by players in SPvP.

Are you delusional? They die from aoe in spvp too. My pet dies passing by a warrior who is using 100blades, that shouldnt ever happen.

Well then you should have a huge advantage in that confrontation now that the War wasted his biggest damage skill on your pet. And you can swap in your pet after it dies.

Lol you must be new. Ok first, 100blades has a 6 sec cd, second I said passing by a warrior using 100blades, he wasnt attacking me, but if he was he would hit both of us, kill my pet and I would survive because LR or signet, but lets use your scenario. Warrior is attacking someone, pet runs by and at the time warrior is using 100blades and dies. Warrior turns towards me and attacks, I swap new pet out, gain quickness for 2 secs and unload, he uses bladestorm to gap close and evade attacks hits me with his knockdown burst and goes for 100blades, pet dies again, and Im fighting for my life, problem is, if 1 pet dies and you swap him out, you are stuck with a 50-60 sec pet swap cd, now both pets are dead, and for the next 15-20 secs(assumingly) you do 50% less damage, your only option is to run, but warriors have more mobility than rangers, well kitten now you gotta CC him. But warriors have many stability options and stun breakers, well kitten now you gotta put your head between your knees and kiss your kitten goodbye.

I rarely have problems killing on any toon I play, because Im better than most people, but when I see my pet die to a random aoe or get 1 shot by a kill shot or a hard hitting skill by someone trying to kitten me off, I die a little on the inside. Being forced to have a pet if you want to play ranger is stupid, anet failed at this. No getting around it.

with my build i can pretty much stand in 100blades and only get to half hp thats if i sit there for the whole thing even last swing..

i can rolfstomp warriors 1v1 easy but i have a really nice bunker build so that is the only reason why

and cus my pet is BM speced he can run though with no probs

Cool, me dying to 100blades wasnt the issue, the pet dying too it in seconds was.

what pet was it?

Ursan.7846:

Uh, well apparently you aren’t interested in serious discussion.

But you’re making several assumptions in your scenario here.

1. Warrior is attacking someone. Pet just happens to walk into his 100B, dies (how often does that occur? 100B is a pretty small AoE)
2. Warrior suddenly disengages to focus on you? Or did he kill his previous target and then move towards you. He can’t be at full strength, unless his previous target is really bad (how often does that happen?)
3. 100B takes 3 seconds to do full damage. I imagine if you see your pet caught in 100B, you have ample time to swap it out. If he uses Frenzy, well, that’s another CD he blew just to kill the pet.
4. 100B is an immobile channel. Yes, it has a 6s CD but that’s not taking into account the recharge on the stuns 100B requires to be truly effective.
5. Also why are you LRing out of just the 100B and not the knockdown? That’s uh, silly.
6. Stability/Stun Breakers don’t affect cripples and chills. Rangers don’t really have a stun/knockback (Except GS/SB 5) so I’m not sure why you’re bringing it up.

While Pets do die to AoE in sPvP, 100B is somewhat of a silly example, IMO.

You either misread what I said or I typed it wrong. First of all it happens all the time, pet dying to a random aoe, warriors 100blades just happened to be an example since it happens all the time. 3 secs to get off stun + 15k damage isnt bad, my pet is running towards someone, and a warrior or someone else with powerful aoes happens to toss them right in the direction, pet dies. It happens all the time, 100blades isnt as small as you think. Warriors love attacking rangers, and Im generally marked because people dislike me on the battlefield, if warrior just killed his target in a 100blades that doesnt make that person bad, and the fact that you think dying makes you bad causes me to lose interest in anything you say, I get my opinion from gameplay not highlight vids. Warrior being at full strength after killing someone isnt unreasonable, I do it all the time on any toon I play. Ive had warriors come out of nowhere to burst me to 0 without me hurting them because my kitten was on cd, does that make me bad?

Warriors dont tend to use 100blades without frenzy, so that theory went out the window. Obviously if he is bursting someone down that includes frenzy, and sometimes there isnt any time to swap pet out before it dies. As I said, I dont run super durable pets or traits for pets, I run the strongest pet I can find so I can be competetive with other GCs damage. Warriors do not need frenzy to kill, and if he killed my pet thats 50% less damage Im doing, I summon a new 1 and send it after him, he can LoS and kill that too, and I cant swap out. 20 secs for the stun isnt bad, also he if traits to root on cripple he can get 100blades of almost every 6 secs, atleast half of it. Also I never said I LR out of 100blades, I LR out of his burst, which includes the stun. WHere did you get cripples and chills from? Cant pull this stuff out of ur kitten Longbow has a knockback as well, and certain pets knockdown, learn the class before you comment on it. Stability stops CC, and chills or cripples are generally from specific pets or traps which I dont use, especially with a power build.

Im starting to think you dont know the class. 100blades or 100nades, necro aoe, or ele aoe, thief spamming death blossom, or guardians auto attacks which are also aoe, take your pick, pets die to them all. Im more than willing to duel you with any toon I have and back this up.

firebreathz.7692:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

firebreathz.7692:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Ursan.7846:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with pets is that they die to AoE from enemies in dungeons, not from AoE by players in SPvP.

Are you delusional? They die from aoe in spvp too. My pet dies passing by a warrior who is using 100blades, that shouldnt ever happen.

Well then you should have a huge advantage in that confrontation now that the War wasted his biggest damage skill on your pet. And you can swap in your pet after it dies.

Lol you must be new. Ok first, 100blades has a 6 sec cd, second I said passing by a warrior using 100blades, he wasnt attacking me, but if he was he would hit both of us, kill my pet and I would survive because LR or signet, but lets use your scenario. Warrior is attacking someone, pet runs by and at the time warrior is using 100blades and dies. Warrior turns towards me and attacks, I swap new pet out, gain quickness for 2 secs and unload, he uses bladestorm to gap close and evade attacks hits me with his knockdown burst and goes for 100blades, pet dies again, and Im fighting for my life, problem is, if 1 pet dies and you swap him out, you are stuck with a 50-60 sec pet swap cd, now both pets are dead, and for the next 15-20 secs(assumingly) you do 50% less damage, your only option is to run, but warriors have more mobility than rangers, well kitten now you gotta CC him. But warriors have many stability options and stun breakers, well kitten now you gotta put your head between your knees and kiss your kitten goodbye.

I rarely have problems killing on any toon I play, because Im better than most people, but when I see my pet die to a random aoe or get 1 shot by a kill shot or a hard hitting skill by someone trying to kitten me off, I die a little on the inside. Being forced to have a pet if you want to play ranger is stupid, anet failed at this. No getting around it.

with my build i can pretty much stand in 100blades and only get to half hp thats if i sit there for the whole thing even last swing..

i can rolfstomp warriors 1v1 easy but i have a really nice bunker build so that is the only reason why

and cus my pet is BM speced he can run though with no probs

Cool, me dying to 100blades wasnt the issue, the pet dying too it in seconds was.

what pet was it?

As mentioned I use raven or jag. Even if I use a wolf or spider or any non bear pet without traiting for its survivability pets still die to aoes easily. Ive been a ranger since beta, Im not making this up.

I gave up on balance
Why?

Anet had plenty of chances to fix/buff ranger. They didnt, yet buffed other classes. To me, this means they think ranger is balanced the way it is.

Lets assume i’m wrong now. Anet knows ranger needs serious help, yet keeps ignoring it. Why would it be?
Maybe there is some major mechanic overhaul in the works (pet/traits)? If so, i’m pretty sure JP would be here, telling everyone salvation is beyond the corner, to calm everyone down, like in the aquaman patch.

Aaaaand i cant think of any other possible reasons to ignore us while acknowledging the issues…

All i expect by now are bug fixes and small bones, like the +25% spirit health.

I was going to suggest a bird as i use eagle/owl and the dps on the f2 is insane compared to others.. really nice burst.. but im speced for pet so… but should be decent even if not traited..

reason i suggest birds is they generally are out of the way and because they are not walking on the floor they get ignored alot.. (nothing better then to watch a thief panic as my pet just took half his hp in a couple of hits..)

i know you stated that you want to keep your GC stats but have you ever tried a pure bunker bm build… rangers are missing out seriously cus the age old mentality of must do max dps.. wait why am i dying alot…

if you dont wanna thats cool just really think people should see the survivability of this particular build of mine

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Beat-this-Bunker-Build-if-u-can/first#post1529360

please go test it out.. i can out bunker a guardian 1v1 and kill him.. bunker ele’s we both just sit at max hp most of the time as we heal up just as much as each other can dps lol

test it out for yourself

I’m going to laugh when next patch rolls around with the AOE nerf, and it guts our trap line while giving us a new icon for our Pigs.

Xsorus.2507:

I’m going to laugh when next patch rolls around with the AOE nerf, and it guts our trap line while giving us a new icon for our Pigs.

i’ll lol even harder as that wouldnt even effect my build again (empathetic bond never needed it)

firebreathz.7692:

I was going to suggest a bird as i use eagle/owl and the dps on the f2 is insane compared to others.. really nice burst.. but im speced for pet so… but should be decent even if not traited..

reason i suggest birds is they generally are out of the way and because they are not walking on the floor they get ignored alot.. (nothing better then to watch a thief panic as my pet just took half his hp in a couple of hits..)

i know you stated that you want to keep your GC stats but have you ever tried a pure bunker bm build… rangers are missing out seriously cus the age old mentality of must do max dps.. wait why am i dying alot…

if you dont wanna thats cool just really think people should see the survivability of this particular build of mine

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/ranger/Beat-this-Bunker-Build-if-u-can/first#post1529360

please go test it out.. i can out bunker a guardian 1v1 and kill him.. bunker ele’s we both just sit at max hp most of the time as we heal up just as much as each other can dps lol

test it out for yourself

I use raven and love it but I hate pets in general. Id much rather have an option to scrap the pet and use my own weapon as 100% of my damage.

Xsorus.2507:

I’m going to laugh when next patch rolls around with the AOE nerf, and it guts our trap line while giving us a new icon for our Pigs.

Lol that would be amusing. I hate trap builds so idc if that would be a problem but Barrage would probably get shafted too. If they buff single target damage thats all I care about.

Yes, Yes you want your pet with human like AI, so you can be 2v1 instead of actually balanced, gg

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

3 secs to get off stun + 15k damage isnt bad, my pet is running towards someone, and a warrior or someone else with powerful aoes happens to toss them right in the direction, pet dies.

Right. You have 3 seconds to note your pet’s decreasing hp and swap him out. If the Warrior used Frenzy, that’s a Frenzy-less Warrior you have to fight.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

It happens all the time, 100blades isnt as small as you think. Warriors love attacking rangers, and Im generally marked because people dislike me on the battlefield, if warrior just killed his target in a 100blades that doesnt make that person bad,

What, the Warrior just leaves his target to chase you down, potentially starting a 2v1?

And if you die to just one Charge/100B combo, it means you’re not carrying a stunbreaker or you wasted it somewhere. Which usually means you’re not very good.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Warriors dont tend to use 100blades without frenzy, so that theory went out the window. Obviously if he is bursting someone down that includes frenzy, and sometimes there isnt any time to swap pet out before it dies.

Yes, which is my point. If he uses Frenzy to kill your pet, he doesn’t have Frenzy to kill you. Unless you got caught in the Frenzy combo as well, which you shouldn’t because you can LR out of the stun, or just dodge out of it if he doesn’t sun.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Warriors do not need frenzy to kill, and if he killed my pet thats 50% less damage Im doing, I summon a new 1 and send it after him, he can LoS and kill that too, and I cant swap out.

But if he doesn’t have frenzy you have a 3s window to swap your pet out. And while he’s still focused on your pet, you have a good long window to just hit him.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Also I never said I LR out of 100blades, I LR out of his burst, which includes the stun.

In your previous situation you talk about LRing out of his 100B, only for him to stun you again. Which means you LR out of his 100B only, no?

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

WHere did you get cripples and chills from? Cant pull this stuff out of ur kitten Longbow has a knockback as well, and certain pets knockdown, learn the class before you comment on it.

SB4 has a cripple. Sword 1 has a cripple. GS 4 has a cripple. Axe 3 has a chill. Frost trap has a chill. Bleed Trap has a cripple. Muddy Terrain has immobilize. Heck I say chill/cripple/immobilize is one of the more readily available ranger CCs and none of it is affected by stability.

You don’t use traps? Doesn’t mean the class has access to all these nice CCs.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Im starting to think you dont know the class. .

I also think you don’t know how to use an apostrophe.

Honestly, I agree with you that pets die to AoEs pretty easily. However, 100B is like the least of my worries, which is what I was trying to point out in my original post.

Lighter.5631:

Yes, Yes you want your pet with human like AI, so you can be 2v1 instead of actually balanced, gg

Idiot, how about you learn the kitten class. Pets do 50% of our damage, rangers do less damage than any other class without pet because its supposed to be balanced with pet. Meaning with pet we should do the same damage as other classes, without it we are weaker. Why should we have one of our weapons be super killable and kitten kitten AI? If it was up to me Id give them options to not even have a kitten pet.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Lighter.5631:

Yes, Yes you want your pet with human like AI, so you can be 2v1 instead of actually balanced, gg

Idiot, how about you learn the kitten class. Pets do 50% of our damage, rangers do less damage than any other class without pet because its supposed to be balanced with pet. Meaning with pet we should do the same damage as other classes, without it we are weaker. Why should we have one of our weapons be super killable and kitten kitten AI? If it was up to me Id give them options to not even have a kitten pet.

How about i learn the class? dude, NONE of your comments show the knowledge of any other class LIKE AT ALL. Why don’t you just go home and stop posting with ignorance?

Lighter.5631:

Yes, Yes you want your pet with human like AI, so you can be 2v1 instead of actually balanced, gg

it was always 2v1

my 50% and pets 50% (rough estimation) v you

the A.I. change people ask for are only so they dont get 1 shotted by a boss in dungeons..

it’s just rangers have well range and as your a warrior then i can see you have a bias opinion because it soulds like your bitter from losing to a ranger..

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

All of my posts show knowledge about the class.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

WHere did you get cripples and chills from?

All our mainhand/2-hand weapon options have cripple or chill built in, you realize? Unless you’re not carrying a weapon, yes you will have access to a cripple or a chill, even more so if you use traps (as many rangers frequently do).

ok im going to say it
Stop trolling please..

Ursan.7846:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

All of my posts show knowledge about the class.

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

WHere did you get cripples and chills from?

All our mainhand/2-hand weapon options have cripple or chill built in, you realize? Unless you’re not carrying a weapon, yes you will have access to a cripple or a chill, even more so if you use traps (as many rangers frequently do).

Im talking about a power/crit build if you forgot. Second of all if you are running from the person chasing you, and they do tons of damage in melee, the last thing you wanna do is go back into range of their sword. Lets assume Im using a sword, the cripple is on the second leap, meaning right back into him, assume Im using a shortbow instead of the longbow I mentioned, that cripples, but its not spamble, and it doesnt stop him from charging you or crippling you himself, axe? Same problem as with the shortbow except axe is easy to dodge but lets assume you chill him, you still have to run from him regardless, hows that make ya feel. Also I dont think GS cripples, and barrage is only useful if they stand in it.

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Ursan.7846:

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with pets is that they die to AoE from enemies in dungeons, not from AoE by players in SPvP.

Are you delusional? They die from aoe in spvp too. My pet dies passing by a warrior who is using 100blades, that shouldnt ever happen.

Well then you should have a huge advantage in that confrontation now that the War wasted his biggest damage skill on your pet. And you can swap in your pet after it dies.

Lol you must be new. Ok first, 100blades has a 6 sec cd, second I said passing by a warrior using 100blades, he wasnt attacking me, but if he was he would hit both of us, kill my pet and I would survive because LR or signet, but lets use your scenario. Warrior is attacking someone, pet runs by and at the time warrior is using 100blades and dies. Warrior turns towards me and attacks, I swap new pet out, gain quickness for 2 secs and unload, he uses bladestorm to gap close and evade attacks hits me with his knockdown burst and goes for 100blades, pet dies again, and Im fighting for my life, problem is, if 1 pet dies and you swap him out, you are stuck with a 50-60 sec pet swap cd, now both pets are dead, and for the next 15-20 secs(assumingly) you do 50% less damage, your only option is to run, but warriors have more mobility than rangers, well kitten now you gotta CC him. But warriors have many stability options and stun breakers, well kitten now you gotta put your head between your knees and kiss your kitten goodbye.

I rarely have problems killing on any toon I play, because Im better than most people, but when I see my pet die to a random aoe or get 1 shot by a kill shot or a hard hitting skill by someone trying to kitten me off, I die a little on the inside. Being forced to have a pet if you want to play ranger is stupid, anet failed at this. No getting around it.

This. I finally rolled a ranger this past week, cause I have nothing else to do. My wife plays one primarily. My main argument has always been…why the hell can’t I just put the pet away FOREVER?

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Also I dont think GS cripples.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crippling_Throw

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Yes, Yes you want your pet with human like AI, so you can be 2v1 instead of actually balanced, gg

Idiot, how about you learn the kitten class. Pets do 50% of our damage, rangers do less damage than any other class without pet because its supposed to be balanced with pet. Meaning with pet we should do the same damage as other classes, without it we are weaker. Why should we have one of our weapons be super killable and kitten kitten AI? If it was up to me Id give them options to not even have a kitten pet.

How about i learn the class? dude, NONE of your comments show the knowledge of any other class LIKE AT ALL. Why don’t you just go home and stop posting with ignorance?

You obviously cant read. All of my posts show knowledge about the class. Im not posting kitten about other classes because this is a ranger forum. Im more than willing to share my knowledge about thieves guardians warriors engis rangers ect…. None of my posts are ignorance, its experience. If you had any you would know.

“Why does my ranger have to give up so much damage for survivability, or so much survivability for damage when other classes dont(except ele)?”

ofc, i can’t read.

Thats it? Idiots will be idiots. Try this, play a ele and prove me wrong. You wont, so either way my point still stands.

LOL and you assume that i was talking about the ele part, oh “idiots will be idiots”

Edit: @at above, there you have it, i just said it.

Am I too assume differently when you dont explain yourself at all?

Because you explained so much thing with "poor naive casual“ right?

@Ursan

#1. You mistunderstood, Im speaking 3 seconds to get off his burst on a player, my pet running through a 100blades+frenzy dies in 1-1.5 secs, cats/birds are squishy, even when traited for survivability.

#2. I said if a warrior just killed his target….usually that implies the person he was attacking is dead. Second of all, I already said this was about my pet dying to 100blades not me, however sometimes your cds arent up when classes like warriors thieves or engis catch you in their burst, what are you supposed to do? By what you are saying, if your stunbreak isnt up, your bad? You should stop there because that was the most kitten thing Ive read all day, using your stunbreak on someone else doesnt make you bad. Good lord IQ keeps dropping from talking to these kids.

#3. You cant read. The scenario said he was killing a target which includes 100blades and frenzy, pet passed by and got caught in it, instagibbed. Then he turned on me. Are you following me or are these words too big for ya? Warriros dont need frenzy to get a kill, just to land 100blades most of the time, and thats if they dont take root on cripple.

#4. If he is LOS (line of sight) I cant hit him, do you understand this? He kills 1 pet with his 100blades by accident, comes after me, I summon new pet, even if he doesnt LoS me he can focus on me, most warriors have more than 1 stun, he hits me with that, uses 100blades, pet happens to be there and dies also. Point is, pets be squishy.

#5. (but if he was he would hit both of us, kill my pet and I would survive because LR or signet, but lets use your scenario) Directly copied from my post, I never mentioned using those stun breaks or signets to get out of 100blades, I said Id survive because of those. I figure its common sense that most warriors stun before using 100blades, maybe for the casuals I should clarify. Most warriors also have 2-3 stuns. So Ill type it again for ya, warrior catches me in his 100b burst, I LR, pet dies, Im alone. Too much for ya or do you follow?

#6. Sure, I could use all those weapons at once while having my LB out right? Even with one of those weapons the snare isnt permanent, its not longlasting either, and it isnt spamable. GS cripple is a joke, SB is nice but its like 4 secs, and I wouldnt use a SB with a LB, Sword cripple requires u to get back in melee range, and axe chill is decent but I dont use an axe. You act as tho you are able to use every weapon at the same time. Why would I use traps while being power/crit ranger? Sure muddy terrain is nice but lol it can be rolled through and as soon as you step out of the the cripple disappears. Not enough to slow melee in actual combat, this isnt pve child.

#7. Does it matter what aoe it dies too? If it dies too an aoe its still dead. 100blades is deadly no matter how you look at it, it also takes little effort for a good player to LoS the ranger and kill pet, if you pull pet back, guy heals up and comes back on a mission. Nothing changes.

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Yes, Yes you want your pet with human like AI, so you can be 2v1 instead of actually balanced, gg

Idiot, how about you learn the kitten class. Pets do 50% of our damage, rangers do less damage than any other class without pet because its supposed to be balanced with pet. Meaning with pet we should do the same damage as other classes, without it we are weaker. Why should we have one of our weapons be super killable and kitten kitten AI? If it was up to me Id give them options to not even have a kitten pet.

How about i learn the class? dude, NONE of your comments show the knowledge of any other class LIKE AT ALL. Why don’t you just go home and stop posting with ignorance?

You obviously cant read. All of my posts show knowledge about the class. Im not posting kitten about other classes because this is a ranger forum. Im more than willing to share my knowledge about thieves guardians warriors engis rangers ect…. None of my posts are ignorance, its experience. If you had any you would know.

“Why does my ranger have to give up so much damage for survivability, or so much survivability for damage when other classes dont(except ele)?”

ofc, i can’t read.

Thats it? Idiots will be idiots. Try this, play a ele and prove me wrong. You wont, so either way my point still stands.

LOL and you assume that i was talking about the ele part, oh “idiots will be idiots”

Edit: @at above, there you have it, i just said it.

Am I too assume differently when you dont explain yourself at all?

Because you explained so much thing with "poor naive casual“ right?

Its pretty self explanitory. You made a stupid comment towards my post, I called you a casual because you obviously lack the experience or knowledge to even speak to me much less comment on my post. Im more than willing to debate but since you dont know how to do so we are done speaking.

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Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Also I dont think GS cripples.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Crippling_Throw

Forgot about it, still sucks, moves at a snails pace and is easily sidestepped. Wouldnt really help especially considering you cant throw while moving. Point remains.

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Yes, Yes you want your pet with human like AI, so you can be 2v1 instead of actually balanced, gg

Idiot, how about you learn the kitten class. Pets do 50% of our damage, rangers do less damage than any other class without pet because its supposed to be balanced with pet. Meaning with pet we should do the same damage as other classes, without it we are weaker. Why should we have one of our weapons be super killable and kitten kitten AI? If it was up to me Id give them options to not even have a kitten pet.

How about i learn the class? dude, NONE of your comments show the knowledge of any other class LIKE AT ALL. Why don’t you just go home and stop posting with ignorance?

You obviously cant read. All of my posts show knowledge about the class. Im not posting kitten about other classes because this is a ranger forum. Im more than willing to share my knowledge about thieves guardians warriors engis rangers ect…. None of my posts are ignorance, its experience. If you had any you would know.

“Why does my ranger have to give up so much damage for survivability, or so much survivability for damage when other classes dont(except ele)?”

ofc, i can’t read.

Thats it? Idiots will be idiots. Try this, play a ele and prove me wrong. You wont, so either way my point still stands.

LOL and you assume that i was talking about the ele part, oh “idiots will be idiots”

Edit: @at above, there you have it, i just said it.

Am I too assume differently when you dont explain yourself at all?

Because you explained so much thing with "poor naive casual“ right?

Its pretty self explanitory. You made a stupid comment towards my post, I called you a casual because you obviously lack the experience or knowledge to even speak to me much less comment on my post. Im more than willing to debate but since you dont know how to do so we are done speaking.

Why are you talking like you actually have any experience or knowledge to begin with?

@above lol, right, we will forget it.

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@Ursan

You mistunderstood,

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Are you following me or are these words too big for ya?

Due to your post being filled with personal insults, typos, terrible grammar, and a lack of punctuations, yes, I did misunderstand a majority of your post. My apologies.

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@Ursan

You mistunderstood,

Dante Dragonhand.2538:

Are you following me or are these words too big for ya?

Due to your post being filled with personal insults, typos, terrible grammar, and a lack of punctuations, yes, I did misunderstand a majority of your post. My apologies.

Well I hope I explained it well enough.

/muches on popcorn..

I have not heard them say the current dev team is gone and a new on is coming in…so yea I think it is time to give up hope.

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OP, this was the last straw…

Gotta say, I’m just kinda sitting here hoping that they’re just going to push out all the ranger changes at the same time so we will live them forever…

Maybe we should send them a cake, it worked for necros…

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Gotta say, I’m just kinda sitting here hoping that they’re just going to push out all the ranger changes at the same time so we will live them forever…

Maybe we should send them a cake, it worked for necros…

I’d think at this point they would assume that the cake is trapped as that is one of thing Ranger is decent at.