Guild Wars 2

im running power build with 2200 power, 1700 toughness, 50crit damage, 55% crit chance, 400 healing power and 18000 health. shortbow and sword/x
i cant decide between dagger, axe and warhorn. what do you guys think would be best fit and why?

Dagger for defense or warhorn for offense.

Hey Puandro, thanks for input, but would you mind explain in more detail.?

I tested all 3 offhanders today and this is what i got out of it:

dagger – both skills are on fairly short cooldown, somewhat prevents them to run awa due to criple and helps my jaguar to hit more often, extra evade for over a second.

axe – awesome burst on path of scars, coupled with signet of hunt active it bursts at lest 6k, axe5 is very situational, had great sucess with it today, first time on thief spamming 222 on me while axe5 and signet of stone active, he just dropped, 10min later some random thief killedmhimself with his elite…

warhorn – i didnt noticed much diference from 1 stack of might and furry, very long cooldowns, only good thing about it was thakittens swiftness alowed me to drop signet of the hunt and slot sick em.

after all that, still not sure what would be best fit…

Undertaker.7451:

im running power build with 2200 power, 1700 toughness, 50crit damage, 55% crit chance, 400 healing power and 18000 health. shortbow and sword/x
i cant decide between dagger, axe and warhorn. what do you guys think would be best fit and why?

Those are nice stats. Which armor set/jewelry do you use?

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/

Use that and post your build for me and it will give me a better idea.

Also what do you plan to use this build for. I imagine WvW but you solo/small man/zerg?

I’d say torch.

Skill 4 is ranged and applies burning which deals the most damage of conditions and will fit fine in your build even with no condition damage.

Skill 5 is the bread and butter of the setup. Its synergy with the sword is ideal because it will drop a pulsing AoE which damages and causes burning. It also is a fire field for your teamates to use and most importantly for you. Since sword 2’s return jump is a leap finisher, you can apply the fire shield. Which gives you might whenever you attack (or being hit i forget which one).

will post build tomorow when i get home from work. would do it now, but im just about to get some sleep…

Warhorn. You can trust me on that.

Greatsword

15chars?

I agree with fjandi. dagger axe and torch are there for the looks but warhorn is still the best in any situation

I had lots of fun with sword torch, since they go so wel together. The 5 skill is great for melee combat, does good damage, gives fire shield. With the cripples on 1 and 2 they can stay a little longer in the fire, keeps m warm and cozy. Approaching with 4, dump 5 and hack away… Torch = average cd.

Sword wh wasn’t my favourite. The 4 skill is nicely animated, but i didn’t use it alot, i used the wh mostly for the 5 skill. Does give the fury, which imo synergizes better with the axe. Wh = longest cd.

Sword dagger is more of use in an evasive build. With sword dagger it gives u 4 evades. But i rarely use sword dagger outside of pvp/wvw. Dagger = shortest cd.

Axe imo is cool for offhand, though very situational. The 5 skill is an über skill. But rarely used. The 4 is a nice skill that does nice damage. Axe = average cd (same cd as torch)

Axe 4,5 give combo finisher for heals with healing spring.
Dagger 5 gives finisher with healing spring
torch 5 gives combo field

Just look what fits ur playstyle the best and fits ur build.

Kootje.9271:

I had lots of fun with sword torch, since they go so wel together. The 5 skill is great for melee combat, does good damage, gives fire shield. With the cripples on 1 and 2 they can stay a little longer in the fire, keeps m warm and cozy. Approaching with 4, dump 5 and hack away… Torch = average cd.

Sword wh wasn’t my favourite. The 4 skill is nicely animated, but i didn’t use it alot, i used the wh mostly for the 5 skill. Does give the fury, which imo synergizes better with the axe. Wh = longest cd.

Sword dagger is more of use in an evasive build. With sword dagger it gives u 4 evades. But i rarely use sword dagger outside of pvp/wvw. Dagger = shortest cd.

Axe imo is cool for offhand, though very situational. The 5 skill is an über skill. But rarely used. The 4 is a nice skill that does nice damage. Axe = average cd (same cd as torch)

Axe 4,5 give combo finisher for heals with healing spring.
Dagger 5 gives finisher with healing spring
torch 5 gives combo field

Just look what fits ur playstyle the best and fits ur build.

no love for the warhorn and just looking at the cd? =(

warhorn has a strong attack which is skill 4 not relying on condition and very nice for those serker builds

skill 5 indeed has a 35sec cooldown but i can be enhanced with a trait and boon duration. it is also good for a solo or a team players =)

F I R S T.3976:

Kootje.9271:

I had lots of fun with sword torch, since they go so wel together. The 5 skill is great for melee combat, does good damage, gives fire shield. With the cripples on 1 and 2 they can stay a little longer in the fire, keeps m warm and cozy. Approaching with 4, dump 5 and hack away… Torch = average cd.

Sword wh wasn’t my favourite. The 4 skill is nicely animated, but i didn’t use it alot, i used the wh mostly for the 5 skill. Does give the fury, which imo synergizes better with the axe. Wh = longest cd.

Sword dagger is more of use in an evasive build. With sword dagger it gives u 4 evades. But i rarely use sword dagger outside of pvp/wvw. Dagger = shortest cd.

Axe imo is cool for offhand, though very situational. The 5 skill is an über skill. But rarely used. The 4 is a nice skill that does nice damage. Axe = average cd (same cd as torch)

Axe 4,5 give combo finisher for heals with healing spring.
Dagger 5 gives finisher with healing spring
torch 5 gives combo field

Just look what fits ur playstyle the best and fits ur build.

no love for the warhorn and just looking at the cd? =(

warhorn has a strong attack which is skill 4 not relying on condition and very nice for those serker builds

skill 5 indeed has a 35sec cooldown but i can be enhanced with a trait and boon duration. it is also good for a solo or a team players =)

Best thing about warhorn 4 is it will get your pet to 25might stacks in a split second with RaO it’s fantastic burst for a BM ranger.

I vote for the warhorn.

I vote for GS :P.

As a second I’d choose torch, why? Cuz it does nice damage and works well with sword and sb due to the combo.

First let me say that sometimes i swap sb with gs and run all melle. I have over 1700 hours on raner only, and while almost everyone was keep crying about how ranger is kitten and broken, some of us was trying and made it work. I highly respect people like Nerva, Puandro, Ikiro, and many others, they never cried but trying harder and they have know how …

As promised im posting a build;
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/ranger/?6.0|5.1g.0|c.1k.h15.8.1k.h1|1c.71j.1c.71j.1c.71j.1c.71j.1c.71j.1c.71j|4t.0.21k.0.31k.0.21k.0.31k.0.2s.0|u40b.f1.5.0.k27|55.7|4i.4p.4r.4q.0|e

Zindrix.1750:

Those are nice stats. Which armor set/jewelry do you use?

see link above

Puandro.3245:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/

Use that and post your build for me and it will give me a better idea.

Also what do you plan to use this build for. I imagine WvW but you solo/small man/zerg?

solo/duo WvW, I posted a build above, including sigils, food, .. i use
btw, the other day i tested your cleric, pet sharing, boon duration build and its awesome, been on rampage without killed for whole afternoon,¸althou is nice, im trying to make some build that works for me myself …

Fjandi.2516:

Warhorn. You can trust me on that.

How come, mind explaining ?

Fomby.4295:

Greatsword

last time I checked, i wasnt able to use great as offhand weapon …

Manekk.6981:

Best thing about warhorn 4 is it will get your pet to 25might stacks in a split second with RaO it’s fantastic burst for a BM ranger.
I vote for the warhorn.

true and easily overlooked fact.
Now this is one of the comments i like to see more, thank you for that !

I hope this thread will have usefull tips and facts and conversation on higher level, I dont need to be told that say axe 5 is whirl finisher.

Undertaker.7451:

Fjandi.2516:

Warhorn. You can trust me on that.

How come, mind explaining ?

Sure mate why not. It’s quite simple actually. There are 2 good weapons you can take as offhand: wh and torch, the second is the best choice for cond specs, the first is better for power specs. Someone might say: “wtf and the dagger?”…well i don’t really like dagger that much mostly cos as secondary set i use sb or gs so basically i have to make a choice, so warhorn. Hunter’s Call is quite good, decent damage, nothing spectacular but still good. Call of the Wild is a must, combine it with rao and you will have fury every time you need it, also it grants might and swiftness. The last one is really important for mobility (here again combined with rao and birds you can have perma swiftness while in combat). Another important thing to keep in mind is warhorn grants those buffs to your teammates as well.
Again i see lots of rangers with soth. Imo that signet is only worth taking for the active ability. My raven crits like a baws with f2 and soth. You can literally burst a glass cannon down so fast he won’t even notice you coming (and this with def gear).

I switch between axe and warhorn. If there is a warrior in group providing fury then RaO along with it makes the warhorn 5 seem less useful so I’ll go axe.

Fjandi.2516:

Undertaker.7451:

Fjandi.2516:

Warhorn. You can trust me on that.

How come, mind explaining ?

Sure mate why not. It’s quite simple actually. There are 2 good weapons you can take as offhand: wh and torch, the second is the best choice for cond specs, the first is better for power specs. Someone might say: “wtf and the dagger?”…well i don’t really like dagger that much mostly cos as secondary set i use sb or gs so basically i have to make a choice, so warhorn. Hunter’s Call is quite good, decent damage, nothing spectacular but still good. Call of the Wild is a must, combine it with rao and you will have fury every time you need it, also it grants might and swiftness. The last one is really important for mobility (here again combined with rao and birds you can have perma swiftness while in combat). Another important thing to keep in mind is warhorn grants those buffs to your teammates as well.
Again i see lots of rangers with soth. Imo that signet is only worth taking for the active ability. My raven crits like a baws with f2 and soth. You can literally burst a glass cannon down so fast he won’t even notice you coming (and this with def gear).

You can use signet of the hunt’s (I’ll admit I personally have for it’s for speed to me first) active ability with pretty much any pet, petswap can work almost like F2 abilities cause most if not all pets try to use their cd stuff first and they tend to be big hitters, another nice thing about it is you can also preload it when out of combat to have the initial burst and still keep the speed.