I have been seeing much higher gathering failures with my ranger compared to my other characters been going on for ages but I thought I would finally post given we have an update coming up. Anyone else seeing this?
With my other characters I don’t have to clear mobs and maybe get one gathering failure every few weeks. With my ranger if I don’t clear I can be sure to get at least one failure every node, sometimes more.
I have tried different pets and trait specs and still get the same result. My guess right now is that its yet another pet disadvantage and the pet increases our chance to fail. Not sure if Necro’s see the same, I don’t have one.
Would be nice if it was fixed as only gathering is what I am using my ranger for at present You could argue that having a pet should actually be an advantage because its me who wields the gathering tool and not my pet
Yeah me neither. I just walk up and sit there with everything hitting me, completely ignoring it before running off to the next thing. Consider speccing slightly more defensively when you’re gathering.
Ehmry Bay – Grindhouse Gaming [GH]
Menorah | Charr Cat | Some Cat Thing
Still running my old RRR build because why not
Yeah me neither. I just walk up and sit there with everything hitting me, completely ignoring it before running off to the next thing. Consider speccing slightly more defensively when you’re gathering.
I’m pure DPS spec, I don’t think a defensive spec will make a difference.
Jumping puzzles, love them or hate them, I hate them. Thread killer.
Yeah me neither. I just walk up and sit there with everything hitting me, completely ignoring it before running off to the next thing. Consider speccing slightly more defensively when you’re gathering.
I’m pure DPS spec, I don’t think a defensive spec will make a difference.
Yeah but you and him are two different people. If he’s dying as it is, then he needs more survivability. Speccing more defensively could just mean using different pets and utilities, maybe even weapons… but if that doesn’t work, more armor will help keep him alive and no one can argue with that.
Ehmry Bay – Grindhouse Gaming [GH]
Menorah | Charr Cat | Some Cat Thing
Still running my old RRR build because why not
Maybe your pet is keeping you in combat or something.. keep it on passive and stow when possible and see if that helps.. idk.
Well I have my pet on attack all the time, so I don’t think it’s that either.
I’ll actually argue for making pets passive as well. Sometimes the best way to survive is to drop combat as quick as possible, and it’s tough to do that when your pet is set to attack everything that targets you. The pet will change targets and they’ll continue to follow the pet, keeping you in combat by proximity. I usually manually target stuff I want the pet to tank, which works a hell of a lot better than “go get ’em, Rover” in a crowd of undead.
Ehmry Bay – Grindhouse Gaming [GH]
Menorah | Charr Cat | Some Cat Thing
Still running my old RRR build because why not
Maybe your pet is keeping you in combat or something.. keep it on passive and stow when possible and see if that helps.. idk.
Well I have my pet on attack all the time, so I don’t think it’s that either.
Again… this isn’t you. Just because something works for you doesn’t mean it’ll work for everyone else. There is more than one way to find a solution to these types of things.
I’ll actually argue for making pets passive as well. Sometimes the best way to survive is to drop combat as quick as possible, and it’s tough to do that when your pet is set to attack everything that targets you. The pet will change targets and they’ll continue to follow the pet, keeping you in combat by proximity. I usually manually target stuff I want the pet to tank, which works a hell of a lot better than “go get ’em, Rover” in a crowd of undead.
I have never even considered having to “Drop combat” as you put it, I just go in, press “F” and gather, I just ignore the mobs that might be around me, and if I’m in combat mode (Weapon drawn) or not.
You don’t have to drop combat to press F and gather the material.
And @ a poster farther up, he didn’t say he was dying while collecting.
Anyway there’s some good idea’s to get you going, let us know how things go so we can help others who may have this problem.
Jumping puzzles, love them or hate them, I hate them. Thread killer.
Yeah me neither. I just walk up and sit there with everything hitting me, completely ignoring it before running off to the next thing. Consider speccing slightly more defensively when you’re gathering.
I’m pure DPS spec, I don’t think a defensive spec will make a difference.
Yeah but you and him are two different people. If he’s dying as it is, then he needs more survivability. Speccing more defensively could just mean using different pets and utilities, maybe even weapons… but if that doesn’t work, more armor will help keep him alive and no one can argue with that.
Who said I was dying? , I certainly didn’t. I spoke about gathering fails.
My observation is that I get alot more gathering fails on my ranger compared to my other level 80’s and I don’t do anything different apart from having to clear now when am on my ranger to avoid it. There is no death involved here.
I have tried both a bunker and a dps spec and many specs in between with different traits and different pets and still see the same issue. If others are not having the issue then I guess I will have to do more research.
If folks fancy testing this there is a ring of 5 elder wood trees in malchors leap bottom right of map. When the temple point it contested you get thorns spawning on the ground that give bleed and cripple. When I harvest that spot on my ranger with the temple contested I will get around 4-6 gathering fails in total from those 5 trees. Same thing on my other three level 80’s and I hardly ever fail. If would be nice if someone managed to see the same thing so I don’t think its just me and my account
Maybe your pet is keeping you in combat or something.. keep it on passive and stow when possible and see if that helps.. idk.
Yup tried stowing, it can help except it never stays stowed. Swapping pets when gathering also seems to help which why I think it must be pet related, some sort of increased chance.
I’m trying to help the guy out. You’ve added nothing constructive to this thread. Please stop posting here or actually start contributing rather than telling us all what you can and cannot do.
I appreciate the advice thanks but given you appeared to read my post and thought I was dying then I am not sure how helpful that advice is as I am not entirely sure the basis of it
Check your traits, your runes and sigils to see if you have a passive trait that goes active when certain conditions are met. Oakheart Salve, Hide in Plain Sight, Shared Anguish and others like it, can cause ruined material to appear.
thank you both, that would certainly explain things. Rangers have quite a few passive to active traits compared to other classes. I’ll check my ranger specs against this post. Possibly even though I have re-spec’ed a few times I have kept one of these traits around, or maybe runes, sigils.
Strange I don’t get the same with my warrior, guardian and thief but that might be their specs.
Ok, I took some time to test on the reddit post with my ranger and can confirm that this explanation is correct. In my particular case it is related to the nature magic traits “nature’s protection” (vast majority of the time) and possibly rejuvenation rarely and wearing mainly zerk gear so it was more common for my hp to reach 75% to trigger nature’s protection.
Each time I saw these traits activate (protection or regeneration appear) when gathering with mobs hitting me I got a gathering fail. I had to set up a special test for regeneration since the proc hp level is so low but sure enough it did cause a fail as well.
I also agro’ed my pet into mobs and then gathered without being hit and got no fails.
Since my ranger is mostly being used for gathering at present then I have moved the 10 points out of nature and put them into wilderness survival.
I guess I would class this as a bug since it is specific to these traits etc procing but its up to Anet.
Ok, I took some time to test on the reddit post with my ranger and can confirm that this explanation is correct. In my particular case it is related to the nature magic traits “nature’s protection” (vast majority of the time) and possibly rejuvenation rarely and wearing mainly zerk gear so it was more common for my hp to reach 75% to trigger nature’s protection.
Each time I saw these traits activate (protection or regeneration appear) when gathering with mobs hitting me I got a gathering fail. I had to set up a special test for regeneration since the proc hp level is so low but sure enough it did cause a fail as well.
I also agro’ed my pet into mobs and then gathered without being hit and got no fails.
Since my ranger is mostly being used for gathering at present then I have moved the 10 points out of nature and put them into wilderness survival.
I guess I would class this as a bug since it is specific to these traits etc procing but its up to Anet.
Anyway, thought I would provide an update
I have never run into a problem with the regen trait causing a failure on gathering but I do tend to clear enemies before harvesting.
I find that mobs will attack my pet more often if I have glass cannon specs (running drake) and I’ll get attacked more often if I have my apoth BM build.
Try attack mobs with pets (preferably drake) first. It’ll put you into combat, but then you become free to gather. Make sure your actual ranger character doesnt hit anything.
Only recently did I experience this and it only happens on my warrior (and only ONE of my 2 warriors). It seems to have nothing to do with combat, it is just random. Became so annoying I stopped gathering with that toon.
You could argue that having a pet should actually be an advantage because its me who wields the gathering tool and not my pet