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Posted by: StoneWolf.7930

StoneWolf.7930

just a pr0 tip to rangers, zerker+longbow will not give the best dps, especially with a bear for a pet.

please please please! try using magi armor with anything but bears, and also use a sword or shortbow. the rest of the game will like you, and perhaps you can be constructive in your group!

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Posted by: paleeshi.1924

paleeshi.1924

Oh here comes an other one who thinks that doing most damage in a group is the only way to support it.

I was doing CoF with a pug today, we had 3 dps warriors. About 50% of my time I did nothing else but rezing those fellas.. And here people come and tell to roll a warrior =/

P.S I didn’t get downed even once.

Edit: Also the reason why people use bear in groups (dungens e.g) cus they are likely to live longer than other pets, plus they have a condition removal on F2.

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Posted by: StoneWolf.7930

StoneWolf.7930

Oh here comes an other one who thinks that doing most damage in a group is the only way to support it.

i’m not saying that, but for a ranger to use a bear+longbow in any trait distribution you will not be better for any team. the dps is poor and if you trait for any survivability the dps is horrendous. just using healing spring will help the group, but you also need to bring some damage to even make it worth the time.

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Posted by: paleeshi.1924

paleeshi.1924

i’m not saying that, but for a ranger to use a bear+longbow in any trait distribution you will not be better for any team. the dps is poor and if you trait for any survivability the dps is horrendous. just using healing spring will help the group, but you also need to bring some damage to even make it worth the time.

Okay.
The Longbow isn’t really bad if you stay at max range, which isn’t all to difficult if you have an area to move in.
Sword is nice but it has somewhat slow response time which is really annoying and going melee isn’t always a good idea nor possible.
Shortbow at bosses is pretty boring since you just basically use skill #1, unlike LB which has much better burst abilities.

Now that’ve been said, I use SB, LB, Axe/Sword+Warhorn, GS in groups depending on the dungeon, boss, area, etc. A mix of knight armor with berserker and Cavalier gives a good mix of both survivability and DPS, so I wouldn’t say that I have horrendous damage.

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Posted by: StoneWolf.7930

StoneWolf.7930

“Shortbow at bosses is pretty boring since you just basically use skill #1, unlike LB which has much better burst abilities.”

the burst on a longbow is actually, pretty poor. i’m sorry but that’s a fact. 13k rapidfire every 10seconds? for that you might as well use a shortbow for the sustained damage+bleeds

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Posted by: rynkusu.2035

rynkusu.2035

“Shortbow at bosses is pretty boring since you just basically use skill #1, unlike LB which has much better burst abilities.”

the burst on a longbow is actually, pretty poor. i’m sorry but that’s a fact. 13k rapidfire every 10seconds? for that you might as well use a shortbow for the sustained damage+bleeds

Plus if you’re just spamming the basic on the short bow, you’re not using it to it’s fullest potential. You have an attack gives you an extra evade, poison damage, an interrupt, and of course a crippling effect. If applied correctly the short bow can be tactically used.

Long bow on the other hand, I just keep it for the AoE it has, outside of that the dps isn’t that great compared to short bow, and the rest of the skills on long bow list take forever to cool-down.

“Don’t die, You silly creature”

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Posted by: Terkov.4138

Terkov.4138

Oh wow. Rapid fire every 10 sec? Gz for not taking reduced CD. What about constant 10 vuln (up to 20 for 1-2 sec) on target? What about great aoe? What about KD helping to take mobs from downed ally?

It’s so easy to generalize…

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Posted by: paleeshi.1924

paleeshi.1924

Plus if you’re just spamming the basic on the short bow, you’re not using it to it’s fullest potential. You have an attack gives you an extra evade, poison damage, an interrupt, and of course a crippling effect. If applied correctly the short bow can be tactically used.

Long bow on the other hand, I just keep it for the AoE it has, outside of that the dps isn’t that great compared to short bow, and the rest of the skills on long bow list take forever to cool-down.

OP was talking purely of DPS. I know how and where to use the other skills, but they don’t make the DPS much better.

Long bow on the other hand, I just keep it for the AoE it has, outside of that the dps isn’t that great compared to short bow, and the rest of the skills on long bow list take forever to cool-down.

Not everything takes 10 seconds to kill you know.

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Posted by: Paz Shadow.9715

Paz Shadow.9715

I think every playing style has its place in the game, aside from trapper build I personally feel a dps ranger build is the second best option available considering the reliability of pets and spirits at the moment.

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Posted by: Beardmonger.4692

Beardmonger.4692

It’s been calculated in a couple other threads that Rapid Fire is mostly only effective at short to short-medium range. At medium-long to max range, your auto-attack will be on par (or higher) in damage in the same time it takes RF to finish. Just something to keep in mind.

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Posted by: Serraphin Storm.2369

Serraphin Storm.2369

It’s been calculated in a couple other threads that Rapid Fire is mostly only effective at short to short-medium range. At medium-long to max range, your auto-attack will be on par (or higher) in damage in the same time it takes RF to finish. Just something to keep in mind.

Its important note that most test are done with one set up or another. That doesnt mean that it’s the best set up for all the weapons being tested.

It is important to use the right weapon for the job. This includes pets. While the post says dps he also implies that use a long bow and bear are not a good idea.

Which isnt the case. Even If going for dps having a bear can mean that your pet can hold aggro, which in turn means other in your group dont have to evade or heal as much improving overall dps. There is more that one way to meet an objective in a group.

In order to properly understand the big picture,
everyone should fear becoming mentally clouded and obsessed with one small section of truth.