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Posted by: Vired swordhammer.9134

Vired swordhammer.9134

had my ranger at lvl 80 for months now ungeared and never touched after leveling him im looking for a build to run dungeons with on him and one for fractals for me and my friend this is mainly for my friend who starting to play again who has no build for ranger

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Posted by: Kibazuka.1390

Kibazuka.1390

Ranger – Drakkar Lake[DE]
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Posted by: TurtleDragon.3108

TurtleDragon.3108

That one is almost good, but it has a few questionable build choices (Sigils, crit chance over soft cap, and lack of warhorn)

@OP:
Check out the link in my sig or look up Brazil’s ranger guides.

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Posted by: Kibazuka.1390

Kibazuka.1390

You may want to believe it or not but im rather experienced, running melee ranger including spotter and frost spirit in highlevel speedruns for a very long time, since back when there where no brazil tutorials, the ranger stigma being a lot worse than it is now and everyone and their mothers thought warriors had the greatest dps ever. I also play very much and almost exclusively ranger and i tested and tried almost everything there is. And that is the basic version of my very own build, nothing in there is random.

So you may want to point me out these questionable build choices and i try to explain to you exactly why its there.

Maybe i should also note that this is a allround version, catered to no specific dungeon path, encounter or team comp. The weapon, pet and sigil choices reflect that.
It will do good in every situation but if you truly want to minmax of course you are going to adjust it according to the situation.
I for one am almost exclusively running hounds of balthazaar for the elite as an example but that is only possible if you are human and only a good choice if your group is almost perfect

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Posted by: TurtleDragon.3108

TurtleDragon.3108

You may want to believe it or not but im rather experienced, running melee ranger including spotter and frost spirit in highlevel speedruns for a very long time, since back when there where no brazil tutorials, the ranger stigma being a lot worse than it is now and everyone and their mothers thought warriors had the greatest dps ever. I also play very much and almost exclusively ranger and i tested and tried almost everything there is. And that is the basic version of my very own build, nothing in there is random.

So you may want to point me out these questionable build choices and i try to explain to you exactly why its there.

Maybe i should also note that this is a allround version, catered to no specific dungeon path, encounter or team comp. The weapon, pet and sigil choices reflect that.
It will do good in every situation but if you truly want to minmax of course you are going to adjust it according to the situation.
I for one am almost exclusively running hounds of balthazaar for the elite as an example but that is only possible if you are human and only a good choice if your group is almost perfect

I won’t deny/question your experience, but I do feel some (but not all) of these choices are mathematically inferior in most situations. I won’t talk about all of them but the only things truly bothering me are

  1. The Crit chance is over the soft cap of 65%. You’ll end up with ~103% crit chance fully buffed, even more if you use some of the good precision food like candied dragon rolls
    kitten , i didn’t realize that website now includes the precision from Spotter. Ignore this
  2. Why Air/Night for all around sigil choices? Wouldn’t force be better than night since that works everywhere. Fraility is a decent alternative and it buffs your entire party’s damage as well. Accuracy can work in some builds depending on how you manage your crit chance
  3. Why no warhorn? I do criticize other rangers for not bringing it in PvE, so it’s only fair if I do it to you as well. The blast finisher is something I highly value.

Everything else you could easily adjust based on the needs of your party. I mean, i find RaO pretty useless in organized fractal partys as well, so I run Spirit of Nature for heals/rez.

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Posted by: Kibazuka.1390

Kibazuka.1390

1. I have 2116 Precision excluding Spotter. With the 150 from Spotter, 70 from Truffle Steak which is the buff food im using and 170 from banner of Discipline i end up with 2506 Precision. Around 2505 Precision are needed for 80% Crit Chance which is 100% with fury. Thats why im running two pieces of Assassin gear and two precise infusions.

2. That is pretty much only because there are more night dungeons then there are day dungeons. I havent done any math regarding if +10% in 5 paths and +0% in 3 is better average than just +5% in all 8, not that it really matters, you can just put force there or fire if you want and you need these for fractals anyway. Fraility is a good and cheap alternative, sure but as your group comp gets better Vulnerability should be maxxed out anyway, so i doubt it can hold against pure dps sigils. As for accuracy, i dont see a use for it on such a crit heavy class like ranger.
In general i would say sigils are the most difficult things to tell what is a best allround as they are so path dependant, however if you dont plan on running welt records you can just pump DPS sigils in there and be perfectly fine

3. I actually do use a warhorn. Fight preperation → Equip Horn→ Whatever field → Blast → Equip Axe → Start fight. The infight capabilities from axe surpass these from warhorn. For starting a running part this applies as well.

Ranger – Drakkar Lake[DE]
Full melee Ranger since August 2012

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Posted by: TurtleDragon.3108

TurtleDragon.3108

Well, you seem to know what your’e doing. Just playstyle differences between us, and even then it’s not a big difference.

My bad for not paying more attention and assuming things.

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Posted by: Kibazuka.1390

Kibazuka.1390

Its not a problem at all Without criticiszm, things wouldnt get better eventually

Ranger – Drakkar Lake[DE]
Full melee Ranger since August 2012