i’d say the reason why its 400 is because it Generates its own might which would even out at about 700 after 8-10stacks or the 6 might it gains from its assault, that alone evens it out equal to drakes condi damage.
then ontop of that if you’d build for might transferance with HaO , the smoke scale comes out on near equal ground but with a higher condi sustain as AA for bleeds+ compainions might = might and bleeds thats two bleeds for each pet AA on smokescale which Stacks fast with HaO and fortifying bond, even more with survival WKquickness/zyphers speed.
overall the 400 condi damage on smoke scale is Justified and better than the drakes after applying Traits.
Have you seen the damage on smokescale? Have you compared its bite attack with other pets? It is far more powerful than any core pet. Deals ten times more damage than canines. It is far better than it should be ( assuming that anet dislikes rangers) so do not make any more noise. Don’t draw attention.
Sersiously..did you fight Veteran Smokescale! Massive hp. Massive teleport-hit damage. Dodgable of course..bo how many dodges do wehave. Its OP monster..change his mechanics please. And this cloud that makes it invulnerable….
Sersiously..did you fight Veteran Smokescale! Massive hp. Massive teleport-hit damage. Dodgable of course..bo how many dodges do wehave. Its OP monster..change his mechanics please. And this cloud that makes it invulnerable….
ha no , it is a simple counter its called walk away or port away don’t bother wasting your CC when you know its going to evade.
port/walk away and CC the ranger to stop any follow up damage.
the Veteran smoke scales i eat for breakfast in pve and they are not compairable to the Pet version as they are Veterans scaled up by pve.
also to the other comment ,its not 10x damage its barely any higher than a wolf , it just deals more because its got bleeds on itd AA and a attack that hits fast which stacks might lasting 8seconds unless you go into nature magic then it lasts 12seconds.
also over exaggerating gives a False pretense and the wrong facts , that can be misinterpreted by any dev reading.
Can you please go to gw2 wiki and compare their bite damage? And write it down here? Then we can discuss “exaggerating” thingy.
erm no , because of three reasons.
1. the smoke scale has a strong gap closer making the AA more effective than a wolfs.
2. the Wiki is always wrong , considering the changes to pets/undocumented changes , some pets are so Broken they have Vastly different damage values Which need to be brought up to a Smoke scales damage .
3. each pet type has its own Attack cast times and damage levels , does the Smokescale CC on petswap or on command(no it does not ) so its Value in that sense is reduced.
did i mention most of the other ranger pets are so Damage broken , we have only been taking a few of them for Utilitiy means for the last 2 years , sure it gave a little bit of damage but due to the stop and go natures of the AI older pets! suffer the most.
So the damage is 10x and I am not exaggerrating. If you desire try the pets on golems. Smokescale is way too good than other pets and actually a balance breaker for core players vs HoT players. Next time before blaiming someone for exaggeration or givibg false info, check it yourself and be a man enough to apologize.
But on one thing you are right, all pets should be like Smokescale. It is a pet that all pets should be.
Can you please go to gw2 wiki and compare their bite damage? And write it down here? Then we can discuss “exaggerating” thingy.
erm no , because of three reasons.
1. the smoke scale has a strong gap closer making the AA more effective than a wolfs.
2. the Wiki is always wrong , considering the changes to pets/undocumented changes , some pets are so Broken they have Vastly different damage values Which need to be brought up to a Smoke scales damage .
3. each pet type has its own Attack cast times and damage levels , does the Smokescale CC on petswap or on command(no it does not ) so its Value in that sense is reduced.
did i mention most of the other ranger pets are so Damage broken , we have only been taking a few of them for Utilitiy means for the last 2 years , sure it gave a little bit of damage but due to the stop and go natures of the AI older pets! suffer the most.
I have to agree with alain. He isn’t exaggerating and the points you call here are not relevant. He was comparing the damage of the AAs, nothing else, so there is no point for you to bring number 1 and 3. About the fact that wiki is wrong, that must be tested in game to make sure. But don’t say someone is giving false information if this just isn’t true and don’t justify it with unrelevant facts.
I think smokescale is fine as it is, it doesn’t need any more condi damage nor a nerf. Just because the AA has bleed, doesn’t make it a condi pet.
Smokescales autoattack dmg is higher, but it is not even 2x higher than the dmg of canides (including the self applied might stacks). Yes, the smokescale is one of the best pets. So are wolf/hound. For different reasons.
Why don’t you test it ingame yourself instead of making stupid claims such as smokescales autoattack dmg is 10×. If you would have used those pets at least once, you would know, this can’t be true.
Check wiki. Its 58 vs 675. I have tested with my guildies and ranger is my main. If you swap traitlines it will differ in dmg. But the debate was their raw bite damages so it is way higher. At least it is written in the system. Train bm and you will get 1.5 k crit with smokescale,which has been tested by myself and guildies again.
Please do not attempt to insult people with your bad attitude. I have been playing ranger for a long time and used every pet except smokescale. My guildie and I tested with his char.
By the way my test results are way different than yours so I do not know what traits you used. In general its 4x or 5x dmg difference. In paper (wiki) its 10×.
I know, what the wiki says. It is wrong. Ingame description says 525, not 58. I used no traits or skills that affect pets for my test. Of course the smokescale can crit for 1,5k with buffs. The wolf can crit for more than 1k too. Both pets have the same low critchance though.
Btw, unlike you, i proved my claims …
Ok you are the best. Pets are mighty and smokescale has no damage difference. And You are right I am a mighty cheater who loves core archer rangers but want them fail miserably to satisfy my weird desires. I am done here, ask what you want. I gave up on my core ranger anyway. It is someone else’s problem now
