Guild Wars 2

in comparison to damages for pvp, how does ranger compete with necro?

im looking at these classes, im still low level so i cant decide yet..

whats the dps role for a ranger,necro?

does a necro have nuking combos

does ranger have cc + sustain

basically whats their playstyle as a dps

Currently,
Necro outdamages Ranger by miles. Reaper can deal more damage then a power ranger could ever dream of and much easier. However, Ranger still has range. Keep in mind as a Power ranger you are Thief bait and there is more ranged hate then ever.

If you are looking for damage, give Reaper a shot.

If you only look at damage people would only play one class. As a ranger you have range dps on a reaper. The reaper will try to get you in to melee. It comes done to who can keep the the fight in their comfort zone.

With all the cc Druids have from ancient seeds it easy to put put down a reaper before your in any real danger. Two reapers can be a serious problem.

In terms of damage reaper is more capable in spvp(conquest mode) due to his ability to do big AOE damage with CC with tons of survivability while not moving from base.

Ranger mostly got better mobility, range dps(mostly on a single target) and great support with druid.

what weap should i use as a burst/nuker ? thinking of gs and lb gs for gtfo out of situations, while lb for killing/kiting..

im mainly dmg dealer, but reaper class seems to dull for me.. is it me or reaper has a repetitive combo ?

Jay.3409:

in comparison to damages for pvp, how does ranger compete with necro?

im looking at these classes, im still low level so i cant decide yet..

whats the dps role for a ranger,necro?

does a necro have nuking combos

does ranger have cc + sustain

basically whats their playstyle as a dps

You shouldn’ t play ranger. It’ s nott good. Play other classes

All the professions are balanced well enough that beginner players are not going to notice any differences other than you’ll do better at what you like/are intuitively good at.

I recommend going to metabattle.com, loading the highest rated conquest build(s) for each profession, and playing 10 or so games with it. That will give you a decent feel for if you like it and are capable of playing it.

Rangers ranged dps sucks. My main is a ranger and LB is the worst weapon you can have in pvp apart from shortbow maybe. GS + sword/axe (or warhorn) is way better at dps. And you will have a black hole of stupidity called “pet”, which is unable to find his own bottom.

However quick draw talent + melee weapon combos are quite nice. Druid has some cool stuff but I lack HoT so can not say about that. Nevertheless if you want to play ranger, let me warn you; it is neither strong, nor helpful. And there should be a lot of fixes before a ranger can enter competitive spvp freely.

As an archery fan, I can say that this game lacks a proper archer.

alain.1659:

Rangers ranged dps sucks. My main is a ranger and LB is the worst weapon you can have in pvp apart from shortbow maybe. GS + sword/axe (or warhorn) is way better at dps. And you will have a black hole of stupidity called “pet”, which is unable to find his own bottom.

However quick draw talent + melee weapon combos are quite nice. Druid has some cool stuff but I lack HoT so can not say about that. Nevertheless if you want to play ranger, let me warn you; it is neither strong, nor helpful. And there should be a lot of fixes before a ranger can enter competitive spvp freely.

As an archery fan, I can say that this game lacks a proper archer.

“Doin’ it wrong”. We are pretty good in sPvP right now aside from the total $#@& that is AF gen when not using staff or TU (seriously, change that crap!). Rangers ranged dps is top of the game. Higher than warrior and dragon hunter single target.

LB outperforms GS on dps when paired with quickdraw and weapon swapped on cd. that, along with the vulnerability, is why the LB is the weaponswap for sword/x on ranger zerk pve. In otherwords, if its more damage than GS in pve, its still more in pvp.

The role of LB is not to sit on a point and duel people better than sword or GS. Its to pressure the bunker who is holding the point from far away, or to facilitate floating between points. A ranger can support home and mid with minimal travel often because of the reach of LB, this is especially true on Foefire. The GS/LB power ranger was the ranger’s best PvP meta spekittenil HoT for a good reason.

I feel now that has shifted somewhat, and if staff gets fixed to stop putting us in combat, GS/Staff Cele Druid/BM/NM with leadership runes and geomancy sigils will be THE meta swiss army build. They will be one of the fastest movers, with moderate durability, high condi clear, high cc, high evasion, high healing, and moderate hybrid damage for a bruiser/roamer. Easily what Ele’s were pre-HoT.

Better than necros?

Depends how the nerfs land. Necro’s lack mobility but their chill, damage and durability are at levels that no class has ever achieved in pvp right now. It needs to be brought down, but how much Anet decides to tone them down is really something no one can predict.

To Answer Jay’s Question on Playstyle:
right now…
Necro’s role is to be the brawler. They run power damage, and use marauder or soldier ammys and focus on Life Force Gen, getting into DS and beating people up. Their only weakness is that they are slow which can make escaping hard, but when you can take on 2+ players reliably theres no reason to need to escape. Its more like the fact that they are slow is all that keeps everyone else from being dead.

Ranger’s role is to support with DPS and CC. Power ranger GS/LB stays mostly off point and helps more sturdy players defend or assault. Cele druid GS/Staff is a highly mobile all-rounder, the role is to use speed to decap and heals to support the team fight. Damage is high enough to win many matchups but its not Power Ranger/Thief high where your damage IS your support. With druid, your support is your actual support abilities.

Friend,

I do not now what game are you playing, or with which opponents. But lb is a not a smart choice for a main weapon with all these reflects. I love ranger ( especially longbow) and know every dirty trick. But when I encounter a ranger while playing a different profession, I kill it without breaking a sweat. There are too many problems with “core” ranger.

And I am talking about the core ranger, not with HoT skills and abilities. Please test it before defending this.

alain.1659:

Friend,

I do not now what game are you playing, or with which opponents. But lb is a not a smart choice for a main weapon with all these reflects. I love ranger ( especially longbow) and know every dirty trick. But when I encounter a ranger while playing a different profession, I kill it without breaking a sweat. There are too many problems with “core” ranger.

And I am talking about the core ranger, not with HoT skills and abilities. Please test it before defending this.

LB/GS was the best performing spec in high MMR play pre-HOT. It was tested from June-Oct by almost every high MMR pvp ranger. Certainly reflects are trouble for LB, but thats why there is a melee weapon swap or the ability to cancel shooting. There aren’t many more reflects now than there were before (its a little more common on engi and tempest now, but far less common on guardians and mesmers than it ever was). We can’t rate longbow builds poorly just because some players choose to shoot themselves to death or because by coincidence the poorest ranger players also tend to run longbow and never weaponswap. Every noob warrior runs GS, that doesn’t make GS a bad choice for good players.

HoT meta druid speculation was not in there to support the point, just to acknowledge that LB/GS BM-NM-SV is no longer the #1 spec. LB/GS is still excellent, it’s just probably not our best with Druid available.