Guild Wars 2

Short and simple question : does the pet HP buff apply to WvW?

If it does it’s not noticeable. I was testing today and saw little difference in performance.

I suppose dungeons will be a bit easier to use birds with

but thats the only good thing :/

Why would you run Bird in any group instance?

Even FernWolf makes more sense despite what a joke I find its “healing” to be.
Fury or Protection and especially Stalker might stacks just makes so much more sense…

ilr.9675:

Why would you run Bird in any group instance?

Even FernWolf makes more sense despite what a joke I find its “healing” to be.
Fury or Protection and especially Stalker might stacks just makes so much more sense…

Chill / burst—it all depends (I used snow owl against liadri…snow owl got off burst and died but at least it chilled, did some damage and well, did something. I beat her in less than a dozen tries so I had to be doing something right)

On a stationary boss it might be good in a party with lots of fury already

That being said, birds are highest burst ranger has access to. The reason is because they hit twice in a row.

Stalker is probably a good option though for sure

I like devourers in places where pets normally die (big aoe and stuff). Somehow they manage to live, it’s pretty decent.

If I’m playing with a lot of ele’s I like to bring drakes because there’s normally fields everywhere.

I dunno, I switch it up

Pets need a massive boost to armor to survive in wvw. Huge vitality numbers alone don’t help much at all in a zerg fight.

so, is there a pet HP boost in WvW or not ?

Chokolata.1870:

so, is there a pet HP boost in WvW or not ?

Unless they come out and say so the only way to know is just to let an npc attack your pet and count the damage tics it takes to kill it and compare kitten the prepatch value.

No – the pet HP boost does NOT go over to WvW. Logged in, tested, tried not to cry, then cried.

Chokolata.1870:

so, is there a pet HP boost in WvW or not ?

Good question?

And here’s another question: Was there even a Pet health boost in PvE?!

The tooltip for My Jaguars health is identical to pre-patch?

I’m not seeing the 71% ?

stale.9785:

No – the pet HP boost does NOT go over to WvW. Logged in, tested, tried not to cry, then cried.

Classic anet…

stale.9785:

No – the pet HP boost does NOT go over to WvW. Logged in, tested, tried not to cry, then cried.

/facepalm

the area where its really needed, and its not added..

Ision.3207:

Chokolata.1870:

so, is there a pet HP boost in WvW or not ?

Good question?

And here’s another question: Was there even a Pet health boost in PvE?!

The tooltip for My Jaguars health is identical to pre-patch?

I’m not seeing the 71% ?

I’m willing to bet there hasn’t been a single change to pet health at all unless they boosted the baseline stats. My wolf still has 2061 Vit, no more, no less…

More empty promises.

I think it only applies to minions, like Spirits, Minions, spirit Weapons, Turuets.

For anyone curious – tested by standing and letting an opponent NPC whack the pet till death. Before the update, it was 9 whacks and dead (0 BM, no boons) after the update, it was 9 whacks and dead. I’ll assume they didn’t massively buff the flag sentry dude’s damage to offset the new pet health, and that indeed we received no WvW buff to pets.

Haven’t checked yet to see if there’s actually a boost in PvE. Thinking I may re-install Skyrim for something to do, and check back later to see how long till warriors get a “push this to kill everything on the map” button.

Boxwin.2098:

Ision.3207:

Chokolata.1870:

so, is there a pet HP boost in WvW or not ?

Good question?

And here’s another question: Was there even a Pet health boost in PvE?!

The tooltip for My Jaguars health is identical to pre-patch?

I’m not seeing the 71% ?

I’m willing to bet there hasn’t been a single change to pet health at all unless they boosted the baseline stats. My wolf still has 2061 Vit, no more, no less…

More empty promises.

I would assume it would be a buff to their baseline health, not to the vit attribute as that’s an easier across the board fix since other minions don’t have stats.

Boxwin, my understanding is that they weren’t going to increase the vitality, but the base HP before the vitality boosts. Kind of like ele vs warrior. Same vitality numbers, MASSIVE difference in final HP pool.

hmm from what i could notice by playing WvW a bit is that the pet HP has not been touched in WvW . God …. dammit

good !
pet viability in PVE up !
pet viability in PVP stayed the same GOOD !

keep it up arena.net
great change I was afraid the increase would translate to WvW since PVE and WvW mostly use the same skills and stats, glad you made the split there

you are joking right ? pets are even worse off in WvW then in PvE… you do know that?

im rly disapointing about this patch, as a 90% W3 ppl. Rangers are good in solo action and small scale, but for battles with 15+ rangers are too weak and every other class is better in that. And 30% of the dmg lost in a second cause the rangers pet get instantly down. Even the 71% wouldnt be much better, but pets probably can do the support “Skill” before they die, same as spirits totally useless in WvWvW… I saw a Stream where the devs said, that they want to make the pets more tanky in pve and W3???

I like how with every other class, PvE also includes WvW , but for rangers it doesn’t. We also always usually get nerfed in PvE/WvW based on dominating PvP builds too. Classy anet, real classy.

Ryan.8367:

I like how with every other class, PvE also includes WvW , but for rangers it doesn’t. We also always usually get nerfed in PvE/WvW based on dominating PvP builds too. Classy anet, real classy.

Rangers always get all the drawbacks of having a pet but few of the benefits. If a reader thinks this is baseless QQ, go play ranger for a month or two. You’ll start to see what I mean. I completely agree with you, Ryan.

Chopps.5047:

Ryan.8367:

I like how with every other class, PvE also includes WvW , but for rangers it doesn’t. We also always usually get nerfed in PvE/WvW based on dominating PvP builds too. Classy anet, real classy.

Rangers always get all the drawbacks of having a pet but few of the benefits. If a reader thinks this is baseless QQ, go play ranger for a month or two. You’ll start to see what I mean. I completely agree with you, Ryan.

You’re completely right Chopps. The go-to-phrase seems to be “but the Ranger has a pet”. Besides that, I’m starting to worry your account was hacked.

Holland.9351:

Chopps.5047:

Ryan.8367:

I like how with every other class, PvE also includes WvW , but for rangers it doesn’t. We also always usually get nerfed in PvE/WvW based on dominating PvP builds too. Classy anet, real classy.

Rangers always get all the drawbacks of having a pet but few of the benefits. If a reader thinks this is baseless QQ, go play ranger for a month or two. You’ll start to see what I mean. I completely agree with you, Ryan.

You’re completely right Chopps. The go-to-phrase seems to be “but the Ranger has a pet”. Besides that, I’m starting to worry your account was hacked.

Holland, you have been throwing me random jabs all day. What’s your problem? Did I defeat your warrior in WvW?

I was never a cheerleader or a fan boi. I was always a reasonable player. And all I point out are reasonable bugs and proposals for reasonable changes. Do you take issue with that? Or do you just not like the way I write?

Chopps.5047:

Holland.9351:

Chopps.5047:

Ryan.8367:

I like how with every other class, PvE also includes WvW , but for rangers it doesn’t. We also always usually get nerfed in PvE/WvW based on dominating PvP builds too. Classy anet, real classy.

Rangers always get all the drawbacks of having a pet but few of the benefits. If a reader thinks this is baseless QQ, go play ranger for a month or two. You’ll start to see what I mean. I completely agree with you, Ryan.

You’re completely right Chopps. The go-to-phrase seems to be “but the Ranger has a pet”. Besides that, I’m starting to worry your account was hacked.

Holland, you have been throwing me random jabs all day. What’s your problem? Did I defeat your warrior in WvW?

Haha not at all. I just remember you being so positive about every patch, except this one.

Latinkuro.9420:

good !
pet viability in PVE up !
pet viability in PVP stayed the same GOOD !

keep it up arena.net
great change I was afraid the increase would translate to WvW since PVE and WvW mostly use the same skills and stats, glad you made the split there

For those of us not playing in tier 6-7 server bush leagues, not buffing the pet’s HP in WvW is a bad thing. The pet might as well be one of those 0 armor critters you crit for elentybillion damage when you try to bring it into a SMC 3way with 150-200 people all right on top of one another.

I get where Holland is coming from, Chopps. I’ve always gotten the impression that were Anet to outright half our damage potential, you’d find a way to spin the good side for us.

AoE spells with a maximum number of targets will now count combatants that block or evade the attack towards that maximum.

I couldn’t test it by myself but with that change do the pets and minions survive longer?

Why would they? In true zerg fight, there are more aoe’s then players and some aoe’s tick for more times then once, some are spammable. Trust me this few ‘guardian aoe aegis’ things won’t change that. Aoe in wvw is still: get the hell out of red circles or die in a matter of seconds.