Guild Wars 2

i use quickening LB ranger in PvP and if you time your burst right, after the enemy used a couple of defensive moves, the enemy just flops and dies straight up.
including mesmers and thieves.

EremiteAngel.9765:

EremiteAngel.9765:

guys plz don’t overreact.
I think I didn’t write my title well…
I’m not asking for nerfs or claiming it is OP.
I’m just elated that it is so strong.
sorry i should have used so strong instead of too strong.

let me quote myself again. sorry for misunderstanding.
i did not post this thread to ask for nerfs.
just elated that ranger quickening is strong.

I r8 8/8 m8 gr8 b8.

I wish people would stop with this “…too strong” argument, it is counter productive, especially if you actually play Ranger.

You killed someone with something, so its too strong?

Warrior have spiked armor giving them retal when hit with a ctir on a 15 cd Thieves can stealth at will a lot of time you have less than six seconds to put them away. Mes have stealth and clones you have to wade through the clone before he stealth’s again.

We have lots of quickness and only a tiny window to use it before it bites us in the kitten or we waste in on a mes with distortion or guardian with block or ele with their abundance of kitten you skills.

All of the above on top of the damage they are dishing out. As I have been saying we can dish out damage but we don’t have the type of defense these guys are putting out (while trying to kill you).

Its a pain in the kitten to rapid fire a warrior with quickness (spike armor messing you up just as much) then swap to s/a swap pet for more quickness and a kd antipation of you going berzek on him. Use path of scar but only get the out going damage because he popped endure pain. Now you have to pop sos because he’s on you like a hellhound. Your fading quick but you have path of scar up again (recharged from quick draw) out going path crits for 4k you know you have him with the incoming path of scar. his Endure Pain from traits kicks in the returning path of scar just pulls him in.

He’s to close, You switch back to your bow you go for the knockback but he already popped rampage. You stealth and use your dodge to get as much distance as you can. He still on you how can this be. Your dead pet gave you away. The warrior regen has him sitting pretty but you still have a chance to take him down. You Rapid fire. What the kitten your dying. You don’t even finish your rapid fire his spiked armor is off cd. He rampage stomps you as he calls you a noob.

Yes there are things you could have done better. There are things he could have done better. In the end he was save by two passive defense traits.

With as much damage as a warrior puts out and with the perceived lack of damage rangers have. It came down to two passives..

So no, quickness isn’t too strong and no ranger don’t need more damage.

I mean I was skeptical when you said it was too powerful because you killed someone, but when you just straight up killed a thief or mesmer?? Just straight up?? Dude. That’s OP.

You killed me because I’m going to kill myself reading your stupid kitten post.

Are you joking? Not to be rude but I have killed rangers with reflect because of that. It is easy to counter but easy to get out played with. Isn’t that pretty balanced.

don’t waste QZ on the LB. use it to land your GS attacks and f2, or use it defensively to survive impossible situations. quickness eliminates GS telegraphs, makes maul and hilt bash virtually instantaneous. QZ makes the decent GS into something next level. ive landed 15k damage on people so fast they had that deer in the headlights look. from downed state. chain hilt bash with BW, they cant do anything else but get schmacked.

QZ also turns fights around. when people cc you to setup their combo, just stunbreak with QZ, hiltbash/f2 and burst them back. QZ is probably the best utility for any power ranger, but not for the reasons OP lists at all.

guys plz don’t overreact.
I think I didn’t write my title well…
I’m not asking for nerfs or claiming it is OP.
I’m just elated that it is so strong.
sorry i should have used so strong instead of too strong.

omg someone made a post not asking for buffs ! attack !

Justine.6351:

omg someone made a post not asking for buffs ! attack !

XD

Yes it is strong if used on a zerker Ranger. You just have to ask yourself what you have to invest to get it that strong. First the obvious ones:

You’ve dedicated your traits, your armor, your weapon and atleast one utility skill to being able to hit that hard. That limits the other things you can work with. You wont have any defensive stats, you have to play accordingly to use the longbow and you have to atleast sacrifice one utility you could’ve used otherwise.

Now to the not so obvious part: Choosing your opponent.
Your opponent can be key to wether or not you are able to get the upper hand.
The armor your opponent is carrying, the weapon and the utility skills decide how much he can counter you. A fight is won by stripping the enemy of his defensive capabilities. If you spec for damage, you can force the enemy to use his defensive mechanics in a quick succession until he runs out of defensive mechanics to counter you. Then, and only then, you can deal your full damage. However, if you choose to spec into damage, you relinquish defensive capabilities yourself, which make you in turn prone to the enemies attacks.

So yes, the QZ+RF combo can hit hard, but an experienced player will not let you hit him until you have stripped all his defensive capabilities. Unless you’ve done so, you are prone to counterattacks. That’s why the combo is not OP and working as intended.
If you are able to defeat a player even with his defenive mechanics off cooldown, then that player is just bad and needs to get better.

IMO It’s not that great because yea it boost not only your but also your pet’s speed (deadly immoblize). However remember it’s only 3sec every 15 sec making it a +10% dmg increase overall. not that great compared to what possiblities taunt adds.

Funnily enough it seem to work better at condi builds that can really work combo with quickness not just press 2 and eat popcorn.

Even if you spec entirely for damage it’s more often than not
not enough & and farting oneshots you.

You don’t have to go glass cannon. Knight and cavalier work well. Quickness works a lot better with the one handed sword than gs.

@mistsim I only use it for the maul tells. Wouldn’t the quickness with the pseudo leap of the hilt bash decrease its effective range even more? Or are you able to make it work because you’ve got the super speed to get right on top of them?

singinggecko.5736:

@mistsim I only use it for the maul tells. Wouldn’t the quickness with the pseudo leap of the hilt bash decrease its effective range even more? Or are you able to make it work because you’ve got the super speed to get right on top of them?

just run up to them with super speed, don’t waste it on swoop. for my build, I usually bash then activate QZ to proc another remorseless, then f2 + maul, switch birds and weapons, f2 + RF.

OP mains a necro and opens a lot of threads where he goes on another class, calls it strong, and asks them to get toned down.

Kolisch.4691:

OP mains a necro and opens a lot of threads where he goes on another class, calls it strong, and asks them to get toned down.

Aye, I’m familiar seeing him in the Necro forums as I lurk there myself since I am a Necro player. Guess when you main a Necro, a lot of things other classes have are strong x)

EremiteAngel.9765:

guys plz don’t overreact.
I think I didn’t write my title well…
I’m not asking for nerfs or claiming it is OP.
I’m just elated that it is so strong.
sorry i should have used so strong instead of too strong.

let me quote myself again. sorry for misunderstanding.
i did not post this thread to ask for nerfs.
just elated that ranger quickening is strong.

EremiteAngel.9765:

EremiteAngel.9765:

guys plz don’t overreact.
I think I didn’t write my title well…
I’m not asking for nerfs or claiming it is OP.
I’m just elated that it is so strong.
sorry i should have used so strong instead of too strong.

let me quote myself again. sorry for misunderstanding.
i did not post this thread to ask for nerfs.
just elated that ranger quickening is strong.

Just change the thread title to match then.