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sPvP - My Ranger fellas , please stop crying
Not really, pet does all ur damage. Get rid of sic em too, its garbage. Its still not viable, in spvp anything is viable so no1 cares about that. In tournys, anything can do better than a ranger at any role. Thats the problem.
So what you are saying is I must play the spec you state or stop crying? How about the spec I would like to play?
Get over yourself
So the only viable ranger build is a sub-par bunker that drags around a paper tiger?
That is a really mediocre build.
Going 30 in beastmastery is just a no-no.
The regen was terrible when I tested it out.
Basing near all your dmg on pets, grabbing squishy pets, then taking protect me… generally isn’t a good idea.
Nope, Just nope. Longbow? no QZ or LR, birds might be good but you lose a lot of utility and survivability.
ROA < Entangle (even with its condition damage bug)
and 29% crit chance when buffed? thats not a ranger
Bad build is bad.
80Rng – 80Wa – 80Thief – 80Grd – 80Ele – 80Engi – 80Necro
Your build is bad, and you should feel bad. Please don’t imply you are superior in your title cause you found the ultimate build when the backing you have is this bad. Also please state your PVP rank, will make things interesting.
I stopped looking the moment I saw a long bow in the build.
Please don’t make a 3v1 claim with no video evidence when we know better first hand. It just makes you look like a fool and insults our intelligence.
guys, he obviously meant he and 2 of his friends all roll the same spec to take on a warrior. No need to mince his words…
3v1 my kitten lmao! With a longbow? Even more of a joke. How do you expect to keep 3 people max distance away from you single-handed?
Pics or it didn’t happen.
Sea Of Sorrows Commander
You guys are so angry and so funny Learn to play Ranger :* I am out from this stupid forum of crying baybies.
Videos of winning in paid tPvP please.
http://fort-aspenwood.com
Link don’t work for me.
Makes outrageous claims? check.
Can’t back up those claims? check.
Gets called out for lying? check.
Throws out insults after being pushed into a corner? check.
Okay, now that we’ve got that out of our systems. Please oh great one, tell us how we should be playing since you seem to be such the expert. Clearly your expertise surpasses the entire ranger community.
Dragonbrand – Level 80 – Human Ranger
You guys is unbelivable. I alredy know what you want …you want every weapon set and every build you creeted playable …but .. this is not how things working. I come here to show you build wich i use. And with this build i am on top almost every game with high glory. I didnĀ“t say I kill all of them in 3vs1 fight but at least one of them and still can survive. This build have very good dps and surviability and If you want your glasscanon power/crit builds and nothing else, thats your porblem and I am not surpise than if you suck in sPvP. I am out.
I think a lot of rangers are ‘crying’ because of WvsW and PvE experience (and I agree totally, just look at the last 2 profession updates, ranger is really being left out )
Not so much PvP.
Thanks for the tip though Pang.
Sorry but they are right this build is max. mediocre.
Protect me + two birds? Are you serious? Thats probably the worst combination.
Longbow without Zephir? Also not a good choice.
Signet of the Hunt…Also not very useful.
Using Warhorn infight? Also not the best choice…
Going a power based build actually without trading in power. Hmmm sounds not very useful for me.
In the end your survivability is the worse compared to any other bunker class and your damage output is from what I see not very high.
The only useful signet to me is Signet of Stone…Maybe cd could be a little bit reduced (90sec) but its already very powerful.
Some good thinks about your build: 15 points in survival is a very good point. The protection when dodge is a very powerful buff.
But I would put maximum 15 points into beastmastery. Everything more is just waste of skill points.
So all the experts on building Rangers ….the ones who complain massively about how tough it is to compete vs every other class in the game and have a hard time killing anything…..don’t like the build listed by the OP. The build the OP says has been serving him well….and gets called a liar and a troll.
So the suggestions to the OP is to ditch the build he is finding fun and having success with…and change it to what the experts say…..so then he could also not have success like everyone else ?
Maybe, just maybe he is on to something. I’m don’t know if he is right or not, but if something isn’t working …which is the opinion of the mass majority of the Rangers out there, maybe changing it up is a good idea ? Don’t they say that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result ?
I remember back in Daoc. People laughed at people who made a 2H Shadowblade. Later on they screamed it needed nerfing. They said the same thing about a melee Scout. That it would never work…then cried for a nerf.
I am not saying the experts are right or wrong…or the OP is right or wrong. It’s just the same old same old with these games when the sheeple rise up against someone having fun with a class …and how dare they say they are when everyone knows differntly.
/flame on
So all the experts on building Rangers ….the ones who complain massively about how tough it is to compete vs every other class in the game and have a hard time killing anything…..don’t like the build listed by the OP. The build the OP says has been serving him well….and gets called a liar and a troll.
So the suggestions to the OP is to ditch the build he is finding fun and having success with…and change it to what the experts say…..so then he could also not have success like everyone else ?
Maybe, just maybe he is on to something. I’m don’t know if he is right or not, but if something isn’t working …which is the opinion of the mass majority of the Rangers out there, maybe changing it up is a good idea ? Don’t they say that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result ?
I remember back in Daoc. People laughed at people who made a 2H Shadowblade. Later on they screamed it needed nerfing. They said the same thing about a melee Scout. That it would never work…then cried for a nerf.
I am not saying the experts are right or wrong…or the OP is right or wrong. It’s just the same old same old with these games when the sheeple rise up against someone having fun with a class …and how dare they say they are when everyone knows differntly.
/flame on
Having fun != viable. And if you know anything about this class, this doesn’t even pass the smell test.
I run a tanky ranger as well and yes most of my damage comes from my pet. And I do really well dungeons and all. Nothing is more satisfactory than rezzing all the cannons who splattered all the while continuing to pressure with the DPS.
To all you haters, If you don’t want to utilize the pet as the class is designed around, then I really don’t know what to tell you.
Way to flame the one who found a usable build, was kind enough to share it with you and improve all the negative whine threads with a constructive post.
Okay so it doesn’t match the pew pew of the glory days of the SB or BW days. Guess what nothing will.
Rangers, Thiefs, hell all professions are only as pigeon holed as they make themselves out to be. Having this mentality will only keep us this way instead of exploring all the nooks and crannies each profession has to offer.
(and before people start yelling at me me about broken traits and fluffy utilities, yes I am aware, we are only going to get better as they are improved “pace” wise, as will all classes as they tweak balance)
Having fun != viable. And if you know anything about this class, this doesn’t even pass the smell test.
Does that mean you must not be running a “viable” build then… if you aren’t having fun after all?
I must have the most viable build ever then!
Hmm never played my ranger in pvp but I know from fight them all I have to do is keep mobile and pet never hits me. So how is this a good build when birds are worst at hitting a moving target? And I have never lost a 1v1 vs ranger on my MesmerEmg/warrior or thief. I stop playing my ranger at lvl70 because I saw how crappy pet AI was and figured it would be a long time in the fixin.
Ok let’s suppose what the OP was saying about his build was right. So should all ranger players stop complaining only cos there would be a single viable way to play the class? Lol flawless logic.
Having fun != viable. And if you know anything about this class, this doesn’t even pass the smell test.
Does that mean you must not be running a “viable” build then… if you aren’t having fun after all?
I must have the most viable build ever then!
I don’t like playing a spvp game with a handicap. You might, but I don’t.
I dunno why everybody hates on 30 BM builds. I run mine with a lot of success. It does take a bit of work with the current state of pet AI, but it’s definitely got potential.
Unless I see a video of you doing well in tPvP I wont believe it. I mean, you’re using a long bow which has always been the worst every time I used it.
Not to mention your pets are squishy and you don’t have QZ.
I could just as easily throw a crap build into a calculator and say “OMG you guys are total newbs I pwn everyone. You need to learn how to play.” Just because you say it works doesn’t mean it works. Provide proof.
Hmm never played my ranger in pvp but I know from fight them all I have to do is keep mobile and pet never hits me.
That’s actually because “no one” bothers taking the 30% pet speed trait, that coupled with cripple and pet hits you quite often. Tho, pets really need higher base mov. speed
Hmm never played my ranger in pvp but I know from fight them all I have to do is keep mobile and pet never hits me.
That’s actually because “no one” bothers taking the 30% pet speed trait, that coupled with cripple and pet hits you quite often. Tho, pets really need higher base mov. speed
Mmm, last I knew, that skill was bugged and you only get a 14% increase in speed. Also, that’s not the main issue. The issue is that pets will attack, but in order to do so they must stop moving, which allows the foe to move away. So even if that attack hits, the player will be so far away after the pet casts its stuff that there is a serious delay which lets the foe escape.
Kal Snow – Norn Guardian
Mmm, last I knew, that skill was bugged and you only get a 14% increase in speed. Also, that’s not the main issue. The issue is that pets will attack, but in order to do so they must stop moving, which allows the foe to move away. So even if that attack hits, the player will be so far away after the pet casts its stuff that there is a serious delay which lets the foe escape.
I have no issue, just try it on the golem from the mists not using cripple, pet without 30% speed = garbage, with trait = average, still needs more speed but it does hit…
Yeah, I’m not saying its worthless. Just that it has its problems. Also, as far as I know, that golem doesn’t have any sort of speed buff, which a lot of players in pvp do.
Kal Snow – Norn Guardian
Yeah, I’m not saying its worthless. Just that it has its problems. Also, as far as I know, that golem doesn’t have any sort of speed buff, which a lot of players in pvp do.
You also forget that to hit golem first he is running outside combat and in PvP they won’t be out of combat. Slow debuffs are also available pretty much for everyone…ranger has a lot of slows to supply your pet.
Either way, pet should have that 30% speed by default without the need of any trait, or at least 15-20% more. The main issue is pet speed imo, i don’t know how GW2 pets have so low base mov. speed.
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Terrible build. Ranger is broken at the moment.