Ok so just now they made a rune that allows you to stealth for 4 second when placing a trap… what prevent a ranger from running 30 in skirmish and 20 in BM with 20 in survival (for stealth when disable and base condi transfer) with a full trap build? i mean this might Sound crazy but when pet attack stealth doesnt break for us it means you could naturaly just troll people out with a bursting damage pet while staying hidden and kiting about 95% of the time by placing movement impairing trap everywhere o_O and or pushing/escaping with longbow/greatsword /sword.
I mean offensive defence with the endlessly respawning pet dealing 100% of the damage?
Also consider the fact if you run longbow you have 4 stealth each of 4 second duration + the knockback the pet fear and add to this joke the fact that you can stack in ice field cripple field and poison/burn field… idk about you but i know that most of those trap once cooldown are reduced have a CD of about 20 (aka way shorter then thieve deception skills wich are around 30) and that you can practicaly cycle trought them nearly achieving a near perma stealth not to mention stealth on CC so lol… find me? Well you can always run away from the pet that bleed you on strike (likely a bird) and stack the dps out of your hp while i trap the entire field XD
Crystal Desert, The Darknest Community P.E.T.A.
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If pet had voices: Mommy, I did it! :3
Stealth is 3s for both traps and LB, flame/viper/spike/frost traps have respectively 12/16/20/24 seconds cd, lb traited has 9.5s cd so tecnically is possible to achieve perma stealth but then what ? pet alone cannot kill players.
Well thats if you have the guy run into the trap it doesnt mean you cant just place them somewhere else with the targeting so to cover your escape not to mention the point of the build isnt as much to force them to run into the traps as to have the pet do all the nasty work for you
Crystal Desert, The Darknest Community P.E.T.A.
BM: I want to present you my lovely jingle bear mia
If pet had voices: Mommy, I did it! :3
I guess you’d need to use Celestial or Rampagers to make the LB worth it, which is fine, but you’d still always suffer the problem all trappers have – Condition Removal.
The need for 30 in Skirm and need for Traps on your utility bar are what force Trappers into always taking EB in the first places.. the only way round using EB is to coble together enough cleanses through Runes/Sigils/Bear/Food/HS… but if you are taking the Bear and Runes out of that you are really left with no serious cleansing option.
So.. maybe good for trolling.. might even kill quite a few people.. but there is a serious and obvious flaw in the build :P
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well of course cond removal would suck you can always clean it with Healing spring x.x but yea its not very viable against condition build save for the fact that what cannot see you cannot hit you so you can prety much out time the conditions out and prevent overstacking
Crystal Desert, The Darknest Community P.E.T.A.
BM: I want to present you my lovely jingle bear mia
If pet had voices: Mommy, I did it! :3
Stealth is 3s for both traps and LB, flame/viper/spike/frost traps have respectively 12/16/20/24 seconds cd, lb traited has 9.5s cd so tecnically is possible to achieve perma stealth but then what ? pet alone cannot kill players.
Wanna make a bet? We have a trait line to improve them for a reason.
It is not what you do, but how and why you do it that counts.
pet can very much kill a player on its own the general reason why pet doesnt is because the ranger dies first. If the pet has its movement speed increased in any way it already is more then capable of perma hiting you, add to that a bleed damage per attack and all you need to do is Watch your little bird stack the dot on him along with its already constant physical attack (id run a howl for this because of the free frozen condition wich can realy be anoying) the guy is good for dying
Crystal Desert, The Darknest Community P.E.T.A.
BM: I want to present you my lovely jingle bear mia
If pet had voices: Mommy, I did it! :3
well of course cond removal would suck you can always clean it with Healing spring x.x but yea its not very viable against condition build save for the fact that what cannot see you cannot hit you so you can prety much out time the conditions out and prevent overstacking
Would Sigils of Generosity or Purity on the LB give you enough condi clear cover? Granted you need enough crit to proc it, but after watching the Koroshi vs Floppy duel it appeard to me to work quite well.
Anvil Rock – Out manned, out gunned and no repair costs, so Leeroy up and dive in.
See you in Tyria.
lol this is so bad but would be hilarious to see someone use. Basically lead off with frost trap to hide then place others where foes won’t step and grab some popcorn and watch the death match. And when you unstealth rely on pet CC to run until cooldowns are off, rinse, repeat.
I save Ascalon against another Charr invasion, and my father trifles with doors!
well even if you take down the first pet the guy has another he can switch to even then you shoulndt understimate a pet with 25 might stack he likely overdps your health bar, That build however likely wont run on a massive ammount of might
Crystal Desert, The Darknest Community P.E.T.A.
BM: I want to present you my lovely jingle bear mia
If pet had voices: Mommy, I did it! :3
Using traps in order with 4sec gaps won’t kill a target you will at somepoint have to plant more than one in the same spot quickly.
though this Rune does allow traps to be used as a Survival Method like a thief does using stealth.
though when the Trap spike Fails 2/3 traps will be on cool down so a weapon set is needed to ether do damage/Migrate damage.
its Range is limited to Traps (if you ever want to down anyway quick enough)
Sb on its own takes too long on its own , LB won’t have any damage because of being Traited/stated for traps.
so the main options are A/D , S/H or Gs+S/A (axe to camp traps with whirl if someone decided to try and finish you by Range)
i do think its Fine , it might be a Problem is a hybrid Beastmaster trapper was built but then the Traps would have little direct condition damage then would fall into a Area Denial / Sub damage to get the pet into combat.
focusing the pets will win the fight, as long as the condis don’t stack up, just focus the pets Hard after they bring out the second pet you have 20secs to Burst down the second one leaving the Ranger in a State of No damage.
Axe main had may help the pet a lot more but it will soon Drop off the Ranger fast , if he can’t maintain his dps.
Disrupt>shock pet>rush ranger>kill pet in the process> force to swap pet to use f2 to release some pressure> disrupt the ranger>focus pet again.
fighting a beastmaster has always been a Juggling act between Ranger+pet the Addition of Traps is just onther CC factor if build this way.
Easy in theory next to impossible in practice. I’ve already tried. You can have quite a bit of stealth uptime but it’s extremely difficult to stay stealthed for any longer than 5seconds. IMO it’s completely not worth it to make a build focused on stealthing having the pet do all the damage. You would need to put in a considerable amount of effort to stay invisible, more so than you would be putting in to kill someone in the first place. So if you want to try 10x harder to kill someone just so you can be invisible 75% of the fight then go right ahead. A video would be fun to watch, too.
What about full spec’ into Marks to pick up Remorseless? Opening Strike+Trap=AOE Vuln+Stealth… next pulse of the trap triggers Opening Strike again…
I’ve just done it .
As for Condition removal, with that high amount of super speed and stealth, you’re perfectly fine even against condi engineers and P/D thieves. And you just kite Necromancers to death.
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