(spvp) Alpine Wolf vs Krytan Drakehound

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Posted by: Othayuni.7369

Othayuni.7369

My other pet is a normal wolf.

I really like the alpy wolf for aesthetic reasons, but it seems hard to justify a 4 second chill over a 2 second immobilize. If the chill was longer, maybe—but it’s not.

Thoughts? Could I justify using the alpine wolf?

I’m an spvp regen ranger, 0 0 30 10 30.

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Posted by: Stormleaf.1769

Stormleaf.1769

If you like the way the alpine wolf looks, that’s enough justification on its own. Looking good at the expense of handicapping yourself is always better than being OP and ugly!

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Posted by: garethh.3518

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If you’re talking about PvP, unless you’re running like an axe mainhand on a condition build or greatsword or something of those likes with important hits to land, chill is fine.
It’s a wonderful soft CC that forces the enemy to stay where you want them for longer and adds a few seconds onto their CDs.

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Posted by: Duke Blackrose.4981

Duke Blackrose.4981

I’m going to have to go with the Drakehound (or a Hyena). You can unleash 4 hard cc’s consecutively with them. Alpine Wolf doesn’t offer that.

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Posted by: Shiren.9532

Shiren.9532

Remember you can trait for increased condition durations. This would turn the chill into a six second chill (if I am correct that the increase is 50% duration) and the immobilise into a three second immobilise.

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Posted by: Leo G.4501

Leo G.4501

Looking good at the expense of handicapping yourself is always better than being OP and ugly!

But Drakehound isn’t ugly, it’s actually pretty cool looking in its own way.

Wolf is always pretty cool looking, but it’s also cliche. Moas are the new ‘coolness’ these days

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

Leuca.5732

Remember you can trait for increased condition durations. This would turn the chill into a six second chill (if I am correct that the increase is 50% duration) and the immobilise into a three second immobilise.

You are correct; the duration increase is 50%. A single 6 second chill is a very strong weapon when you use it properly. Waiting until just after your target uses a healing skill (or swaps out of water attunement if ele) and then significantly increasing its recharge is a great way to wear down tankier characters.

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Posted by: swiftpaw.6397

swiftpaw.6397

Drakehound Vs. Hyena. which one’s the better option?

Im running drakehound and regular (fear F2) wolf atm.

Edit-

Also, conditions duration increase by 50%, I assume is malicious training? my only issue with that is that it’s down the marksmanship tree.

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

Leuca.5732

Drakehound Vs. Hyena. which one’s the better option?

Im running drakehound and regular (fear F2) wolf atm.

Edit-

Also, conditions duration increase by 50%, I assume is malicious training? my only issue with that is that it’s down the marksmanship tree.

The only thing Hyena is good for is a double knockdown, at which point its usefulness ends because it has horrid base attack power. Just my opinion. All the other dogs are relatively good sources of constant damage as they attack quickly and have high power with modest precision.

You only need 10 Marksmanship for the trait. What is your current setup?

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Posted by: swiftpaw.6397

swiftpaw.6397

Drakehound Vs. Hyena. which one’s the better option?

Im running drakehound and regular (fear F2) wolf atm.

Edit-

Also, conditions duration increase by 50%, I assume is malicious training? my only issue with that is that it’s down the marksmanship tree.

The only thing Hyena is good for is a double knockdown, at which point its usefulness ends because it has horrid base attack power. Just my opinion. All the other dogs are relatively good sources of constant damage as they attack quickly and have high power with modest precision.

You only need 10 Marksmanship for the trait. What is your current setup?

Yeh tried out the hyenas last night, wasn’t really impressed. Still prefer Drakehound.

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Posted by: Kootje.9271

Kootje.9271

Jaguar and the ever ugly=cool reef drake!

Proud member of Dutch-Finest Guild on Far Shiverpeaks.

If it ain’t dutch,… :P

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Posted by: haxi.9038

haxi.9038

I named my Drakehound Scooby Doo and my Wolf Wolverine.

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Posted by: Kootje.9271

Kootje.9271

I never realised that Scooby Doo is indeed a Krytan Drakehound

Proud member of Dutch-Finest Guild on Far Shiverpeaks.

If it ain’t dutch,… :P

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

Leuca.5732

Drakehound Vs. Hyena. which one’s the better option?

Im running drakehound and regular (fear F2) wolf atm.

Edit-

Also, conditions duration increase by 50%, I assume is malicious training? my only issue with that is that it’s down the marksmanship tree.

The only thing Hyena is good for is a double knockdown, at which point its usefulness ends because it has horrid base attack power. Just my opinion. All the other dogs are relatively good sources of constant damage as they attack quickly and have high power with modest precision.

You only need 10 Marksmanship for the trait. What is your current setup?

Yeh tried out the hyenas last night, wasn’t really impressed. Still prefer Drakehound.

0/30/25/10/5

I’m not sure what kind of build you’re running. Traps?

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Posted by: haxi.9038

haxi.9038

I never realised that Scooby Doo is indeed a Krytan Drakehound

Now you do. :p

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Posted by: haxi.9038

haxi.9038

Drakehound Vs. Hyena. which one’s the better option?

Im running drakehound and regular (fear F2) wolf atm.

Edit-

Also, conditions duration increase by 50%, I assume is malicious training? my only issue with that is that it’s down the marksmanship tree.

The only thing Hyena is good for is a double knockdown, at which point its usefulness ends because it has horrid base attack power. Just my opinion. All the other dogs are relatively good sources of constant damage as they attack quickly and have high power with modest precision.

You only need 10 Marksmanship for the trait. What is your current setup?

Yeh tried out the hyenas last night, wasn’t really impressed. Still prefer Drakehound.

0/30/25/10/5

I’m not sure what kind of build you’re running. Traps?

Yup looks like some variation of trap build

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Posted by: Daemon.4295

Daemon.4295

Definitely looks like a trap build.

Regarding alpine wolf, I don’t want to give you incorrect info so someone please correct me if I’m mistaken, but I believe Alpine Wolf’s chill is AoE, whereas drakehound’s F2 is single target. Worth taking into account.

Knockdowns from Hyenas can be super useful, the damage is awful though so it’s a tradeoff. That second hyena is hard to keep alive for very long though.

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Posted by: Othayuni.7369

Othayuni.7369

The 50% condition duration thing on pets doesn’t seem to affect the chill. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

Leuca.5732

Definitely looks like a trap build.

Regarding alpine wolf, I don’t want to give you incorrect info so someone please correct me if I’m mistaken, but I believe Alpine Wolf’s chill is AoE, whereas drakehound’s F2 is single target. Worth taking into account.

Knockdowns from Hyenas can be super useful, the damage is awful though so it’s a tradeoff. That second hyena is hard to keep alive for very long though.

They are both AoE.

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

Leuca.5732

The 50% condition duration thing on pets doesn’t seem to affect the chill. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

You appear to be correct, and the regular wolf’s fear howl seems to have the same issue.

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Posted by: Daemon.4295

Daemon.4295

Definitely looks like a trap build.

Regarding alpine wolf, I don’t want to give you incorrect info so someone please correct me if I’m mistaken, but I believe Alpine Wolf’s chill is AoE, whereas drakehound’s F2 is single target. Worth taking into account.

Knockdowns from Hyenas can be super useful, the damage is awful though so it’s a tradeoff. That second hyena is hard to keep alive for very long though.

They are both AoE.

Ok, sorry about that, I thought the drakehound’s immobilize was single target. Good to know!

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Posted by: Leuca.5732

Leuca.5732

Ok, sorry about that, I thought the drakehound’s immobilize was single target. Good to know!

No need to apologize. xD

All dog howls affect up to 5 targets, regardless of whether the ability affects foes or allies. (i.e. fernhound)