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Posted by: posthumecaver.6473

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This skill makes no sense in Herald line.

In BWE2 when I saw that trait I thought cool protection during heal, the moment I most need it, but when I start understand how Herald heal works, I was actually gimping myself.

I am quite sure lots of players who will start new with Revenant will make the same mistake.

This heal doesn’t make any sense with Herald heal, you either has to have Herald trait line but no Dragon Stance or you will just kitten yourself with the amount of heal you get.

I think this trait must be changed in someway.

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Posted by: Bovan.9481

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I think it’s fine. You aren’t forced to run Glint if you take the Herald line and it’s not just protection for yourself. It’s a 600 range group protection. All of that aside I use Glint’s heal more like a Guardian uses Shelter. I ’’block’’ one big attack with it instead of taking damage and trying to frantically heal up the damage I took afterwards.

Not to mention it currently has no internal cooldown. You can almost keep it up permanently with Ventari.

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Posted by: Stinja.9612

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Its totally meant to be used with Ventari as Bovan has said, You aren’t gimping yourself if you use it and glints heal vs something like conditions either. I personally go with the might option.

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Posted by: posthumecaver.6473

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When it is so useful for Ventari line put that trait in Ventari line, % 90 people who will get Herald line will go for Dragon Stance and as I explained above it is awkward for Herald line.

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Posted by: Bovan.9481

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I can see your point. But Herald is about supporting and buffing and the trait slots in nicely with the traitline. Meanwhile in the Ventari line we can see it’s all about healing and not damage mitigation. the trait makes sense where it is.

This is like trying to argue that the increased endurance regen or protection from Glint’s elite doesn’t make sense, because ‘’you don’t want to dodge or reduce your damage when you use the heal’’.

The only problem I have with the trait is that the protection duration is really short. if you aren’t running Ventari and getting nearly 100% uptime it’s rather weak with the high cooldown heals from other legends.

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Posted by: Daniel Handler.4816

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I can see your point. But Herald is about supporting and buffing and the trait slots in nicely with the traitline. Meanwhile in the Ventari line we can see it’s all about healing and not damage mitigation. the trait makes sense where it is.

This is like trying to argue that the increased endurance regen or protection from Glint’s elite doesn’t make sense, because ‘’you don’t want to dodge or reduce your damage when you use the heal’’.

The only problem I have with the trait is that the protection duration is really short. if you aren’t running Ventari and getting nearly 100% uptime it’s rather weak with the high cooldown heals from other legends.

Exactly. Glints job is to buff allies and other stances. Regen/swiftness are components of ventari.
Protection goes with jalis.
Might/fury with malyx/short
And the facet of nature buffs the boons the other states generate.

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Posted by: savacli.8172

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I could see the trait being an issue if all it did was apply Protection on the Revenant. Though seeing how the trait proc’s a party wide boon it still falls in line with the overall focus of the Legend/traitline.

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Posted by: posthumecaver.6473

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Weird thing is it does not fit in line with Revenant in Dragon Stance for itself.

Revenant with Marauder amulet will be awesome Roamer in PVP but not so team fighter, so in my opinion buffing other people will not be that relevant for PVP.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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Activating the Protection after healing skill finishes, just like Protection gets applied once Ventari’s Tablet travels full demanded distance, would fix the problem.

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Posted by: Daniel Handler.4816

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Activating the Protection after healing skill finishes, just like Protection gets applied once Ventari’s Tablet travels full demanded distance, would fix the problem.

And how does that solve the problem?

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Posted by: Rym.1469

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Activating the Protection after healing skill finishes, just like Protection gets applied once Ventari’s Tablet travels full demanded distance, would fix the problem.

And how does that solve the problem?

You get your Protection after Infuse Light effect fades.

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Posted by: Helly.2597

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Actually unless they fixed it, you can cancel cast your heal for free group protection. Worked with shiro during BWE2

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Posted by: blokejoe.6590

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the scrapper has a similar trait. which gives 5 sec of protection when they use a heal.

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Posted by: posthumecaver.6473

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Yeah but you don’t get reduced heal as Scrapper when you get protection isn’t but Revenant get reduced heal.

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Posted by: Burtnik.5218

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There is one solution. Facet of light doesnt activate protection while consume the light does. Swap it to activate on facet instead

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Posted by: Stinja.9612

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Trait is fine.There were plenty of reasons were provided by several people, use the other 2 traits if you don’t like that option and get over it already.

It wont change, and the fact is that its a good trait for support builds with ventari/glint.

It doesn’t stop you from reducing your heal by casting your elite and getting prot or your f2 or being CCed if you’re using retribution.

You will most likely get a random free protection boon in a team fight anyway from an ally so again, it is what it is.

It really is a non-issue pick a different one and be done there’s like 2 weeks till launch it is super unlikely it will change.

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