Guild Wars 2

Build diversity and long term-problems

Right now the Revenant is a unique and fun-to play class, but im very concerned about his future.
The class lacks build diversity in 3 aspects.

1.) utlity-skills.
Only 16 utilities (compared to a minimum of 24 for each other class) is a painful gap to the other classes
Possible solutions:
Give the Revenant a set of non-legend-based skills, that can be equipped for each legend. OR add 1-2 new utilities for each legend. OR just add more legends.

2.) Ventari/Salvation:
On paper Ventari looks amazing. In reality he feels clunky and plays as a STAY-IN legend. And the salvation-traitline has nearly no combination-potential with other legends. For example “shiros focused “ works amazing with jalis “vengeful hammers”.
Possible solutions:
ventari needs better controling and a trait rework.-

3.) Weapon kitten nal:
The total amount of 6 weapons feels a bit short. The Revenant is the only class with no range condition weapon. This lack of weapon choices hurts twice, because of the even lower amount of utilitys.
Possible solutions:
Revenant needs at least a ranged condi-weapon

I hope, the devs are reading this and taking my (or our) concern(s) seriously. I´m pretty sure, if the Revenant doesn’t get more choices, most players will leave the class soon, because it feels incomplete

All you say is rather subjective.
Revenant was designed with legends in mind, every legend having a role and a couple of utilities. I actually love that, that’s the side of the revenant, you don’t choose your utilities. In other hand one weapon per legend is cool and give more focused abilities with the theme of the legend i’m not having any problem with the choice of weapons. Revenant, it’s true, have actually no choice, but it’s not because of weapons or utilites coz this is going (and i hope soo) to never change. But it’s that he is stuck to power build (Shior/glint) because Jalis and Mallyx don’t work well (both legend and talents). When all revenants legends are going to be viable we actually are going to have more choices. Revenant is not a class for everyone, he has near not personnalisation being focused on predetermided role (tank, healer, support, condition) and i think is that’s make the class feel unique. I’m pretty sure people wanting to have more personnalisation are not going to play revenant long term coz it’s not a class designed for that.

For Ventari there is actually complains and yes it don’t work very good, but i think it’s not coz of the trait, it’s because he has no condition cleaning for exemple. The clunky side is real yes, but i suppose it’s normal coz, let’s be honnest, you can’t be fast like the wind when you displace a 2 ton rock. So the changes on ventari must be focused on, giving an option (a trait would be good) for being able to condi cleaning for exemple, and giving a water field instead of a light one (which serve barely to nothing coz it give just zone retaliation when using the elite, zone healing would be better). Ventari is not supposed to be the best healer, druid is. I think ventari is more designed for healing support and long term healing when druid actually can heal so much in one skill, ventari give less healing but on long term when near the tablet, it’s more a team healer. But yeah i’m agree on the op with ventari he need some changes too.

GanzerApfel.6578:

2.) Ventari/Salvation:
On paper Ventari looks amazing. In reality he feels clunky and plays as a STAY-IN legend. And the salvation-traitline has nearly no combination-potential with other legends. For example “shiros focused “ works amazing with jalis “vengeful hammers”.
Possible solutions:
ventari needs better controling and a trait rework.-

Totally agree, in fact i just made a thread about it.

A key thing to get right with revenant is making all the legend traits/utilities/weapons work reasonably well in any combination, and ventari traits, and mallyx for that matter, don’t really work well with any other legends than their own legend/weapon.

The best improvement to Rev utilities would be to add a 4th utility to each legend so there was some kind of choice involved.

Weapons are in a good place, IMO only staff needs improvements.