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Posted by: Zeroth.7046

Zeroth.7046

Hello all,

I noticed we gave a lot of feedback on Sword auto-attack chain and on Unrelenting Assault, but I think it’s important to discuss about another sword skill: Precision Strike.

Back when it was first revealed, Precision Strike was called a “catch up” attack by Roy, because the freeze would allow the revenant to catch up to their slowed enemies. However, this skill faces a big problem, which is exactly its range. As it is, it has a 450 range, just like Brutal Blade (attack 2 of the auto-attack chain) and Unrelenting Assault, which means it can’t truly be used to catch up given its range is as limited as the other sword skills.

I noticed Roy made changes to it by making the Chill last longer and the attack deal more damage, but I feel the range issue is still at play here preventing this skill from truly feeling “there”. Maybe we could discuss increasing its range to something like 600 or even 900?

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Posted by: Demented Yak.6105

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Posted by: KingFarout.1092

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I think Roy instead wants it to be an added damage to your DPS. This way you are not always auto attacking.

I think increasing the range to 500-600 would be fine though since then we could use it as a combat opener.

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

skowcia.8257

I also thought that 600 range is a sweet spot. But i want to see how it will play out damage and utility wise. There are many situations where i am nearly next to someone running away from me on guard and i has nothing to catch them. Revenant case you could pop impossible odds or stay a bit away and jade winds them – as they wont see animation. Now you will be able to keep 50% chill uptime with sword 2 and that alone looks useful to me as chill not olny affect movement, but also drastically increase opponent cd’s.

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Posted by: Demented Yak.6105

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There are many situations where i am nearly next to someone running away from me on guard and i has nothing to catch them.

Hello?!

Phase Traversal (20 energy + 1200 range!!!!!!!!!!) – shadowstep
Forced Engagement (1200 range) – taunt
Axe 4 (900 range) – chill + shadowstep
Sword 5 (600 range) – pull + shadowstep
Jade Winds (600 range) – stun
Unyielding Anguish (600 range) – leap

Am I or the others crazy?

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

Yeah, I’m with Demented here. I don’t see the issue. If your target is out of range, there are plenty of options available to catch up to them and enable you to land Sword 2.

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Posted by: skowcia.8257

skowcia.8257

You guys missed one most important thing i have said.. Guard. Guuaurd…ya know..that noobstomper slow turtle that get kited by everyone like no tomorrow

What im also saying is that sword 2 will be better now if youre in range to use it as it cost olny 5 energy. Howered i would really like it range being increased to 600.

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

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I think the chill should be 3-4 seconds tbh.

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Posted by: ronpierce.2760

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I think the chill should be 3-4 seconds tbh.

Too low of a cooldown for that. 2 seconds is about as good as the cooldown/energy cost could justify.

Frankly I think it’s fine as is. The idea is PT will close gaps, Precision will help you maintain the closed gap, and so will Unrelenting Assault. I think it’s a perspective thing. You throw it when semi-close to make it easier to land an auto chain or UA, of you need to actually close a gap, teleport, axe 4, or taunt.

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Posted by: Zeroth.7046

Zeroth.7046

Offhand axe.

/15 chars

There are many situations where i am nearly next to someone running away from me on guard and i has nothing to catch them.

Hello?!

Phase Traversal (20 energy + 1200 range!!!!!!!!!!) – shadowstep
Forced Engagement (1200 range) – taunt
Axe 4 (900 range) – chill + shadowstep
Sword 5 (600 range) – pull + shadowstep
Jade Winds (600 range) – stun
Unyielding Anguish (600 range) – leap

Am I or the others crazy?

I think you are misunderstanding my post. I’m not saying there are no gap closers, I am saying that Sword 2 was designed as one yet its current range fails to give it such effect. It doesn’t matter that Axe 4 is a gap closer, or that Shiro has access to one, I’m talking specifically about this sword skill which was designed as one.

As it is, I don’t think the skill offers enough damage to be worth cancelling your auto-attack rotation, and the chill effect, although nice, doesn’t seem to synergize well with the other tools a Sword Revenant has. Earlier datamines suggested this skill would inflict burn, but I believe Roy changed it to Chill in order to give this gap closer feel. Sadly, its range feels a bit lackluster, and although I understand the idea of using it to prevent someone from escaping, like mentioned above, the range itself leaves little room to cast it as the enemy runs.

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Posted by: Gaaroth.2567

Gaaroth.2567

Actually i think sword 2 was meant to be a gap preventer in melee that’s why the chill duration and damage werent worth the cost…imho is kinda fine now

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

Offhand axe.

/15 chars

There are many situations where i am nearly next to someone running away from me on guard and i has nothing to catch them.

Hello?!

Phase Traversal (20 energy + 1200 range!!!!!!!!!!) – shadowstep
Forced Engagement (1200 range) – taunt
Axe 4 (900 range) – chill + shadowstep
Sword 5 (600 range) – pull + shadowstep
Jade Winds (600 range) – stun
Unyielding Anguish (600 range) – leap

Am I or the others crazy?

I think you are misunderstanding my post. I’m not saying there are no gap closers, I am saying that Sword 2 was designed as one yet its current range fails to give it such effect. It doesn’t matter that Axe 4 is a gap closer, or that Shiro has access to one, I’m talking specifically about this sword skill which was designed as one.

As it is, I don’t think the skill offers enough damage to be worth cancelling your auto-attack rotation, and the chill effect, although nice, doesn’t seem to synergize well with the other tools a Sword Revenant has. Earlier datamines suggested this skill would inflict burn, but I believe Roy changed it to Chill in order to give this gap closer feel. Sadly, its range feels a bit lackluster, and although I understand the idea of using it to prevent someone from escaping, like mentioned above, the range itself leaves little room to cast it as the enemy runs.

Gaaroth nailed. I believe you’re misunderstanding what the skill is supposed to do, which is not be a gap closer but a preventer. You see the target start backing away, hit Sword2.

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Posted by: Zeroth.7046

Zeroth.7046

Gaaroth nailed. I believe you’re misunderstanding what the skill is supposed to do, which is not be a gap closer but a preventer. You see the target start backing away, hit Sword2.

Nah, I understood that idea, which I even mentioned in my post:

and although I understand the idea of using it to prevent someone from escaping, like mentioned above,

I still believe the range is too short to enable that efficiently, however. I don’t see an issue in increasing its range to 600, giving it will make landing such skill in these cases easier and allow more room to even open a fight with.

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Posted by: Gaaroth.2567

Gaaroth.2567

Yeah 600 might be good

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